Re: off topic the movie/documentary Farenheit 9/11

2004-07-12 Thread leaking pen
i think this says it best on the bias of 9/11 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20040711 (funny no matter WHAT you feel about the movie, trust me.) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 23:39:42 EDT Subject: off topic the

Re: Musings on: Energy Gravity and Acceleration

2004-07-24 Thread leaking pen
first off, if shine a laser across a room here on earth, is there a shift downwards thats detectable from earths gravity? also, of course there is a force. thats teh definition of acceleration. acceleration is caused by a constant force on an object. if gravity causes acceleration, it is by

Re: OT: Everything is about nothing

2004-07-30 Thread leaking pen
well that tears it. On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:18:18 -0700, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the, TGIF tears-to-tears dept... or was that tares-to-tears? Theodore Sturgeon wrote a fine little story in the Phillip K. Dick tradition of less-is-more, entitled appropriately: It Was Nothing

Re: OFF TOPIC Iraqi aluminum tube story finis

2004-10-06 Thread leaking pen
horace, the fleeing trucks have been shown to be as real as the hordes of iraqis massing on saudia arabias border back when we convinced the saudis to let us put us troops on their soil. (for those not in the know, those were doctored sattelite photos. ie, not real) the 60 k page document that

Re: Time as a constant ???

2004-10-07 Thread leaking pen
im missing the last part of the statement. provided that constant changes... wouldnt that make it a variable. and time IS a variable, dependant upon velocity. On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:58:55 -0500, RC Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could we consider time as the only constant, provided

Re: OFF TOPIC Iraqi aluminum tube story finis

2004-10-07 Thread leaking pen
1. well, since theres been testifiying in front of congress and leaks and unaltered originals sent to media, yeah, actually, we do know for sure. 2. the us is a signatory to the un. the us has agreed to the uns controll in issues that are not about defense. in fact, the whole reason we went

Re: Manufacturing going to China..off topic

2004-11-04 Thread leaking pen
something people miss... the more efficient plants in other countries, japan for instance, actually pay more in regular workers salaries. but they pay about 1/50th the ceo salaries, and about 1/20th the high level admin salaries. and becuase of that, are much more profitable. the closing of

Re: off topic..mad about software registration..........

2004-11-29 Thread leaking pen
rebates do it as hard as possible becuase the rebate companies job is to get as few rebates actually proccessed as possible. thus all the hoops. as for patriot act, any act of anynonimity is antisocial and possible terrorist activity im reminded of a short that was in amazing back in the 70's

Re: off topic..mad about software registration..........

2004-11-29 Thread leaking pen
scuse me, but dont put words in my mouth. i mentioned A product, photoshop, for which there is no comparable competitor, becuase of the monopolistic way they control the industry. i have not said that software should be free, i have not said that people should pirate everything. i did not say

Re: off topic..mad about software registration..........

2004-11-30 Thread leaking pen
with older platforms. I don't want to hear it is impossible. Skippy on 11/29/04 4:55 PM, leaking pen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn skippy. btw, i should like to add that i rarely pirate myself, and never a small company. i find out about someone i know doing so, pirating

Re: star wars rides again

2004-12-16 Thread leaking pen
. -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 1:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: star wars rides again At 5:04 PM 12/15/4, leaking pen wrote: ...that said, its a waste of time and money, and there is no need for it. You

Re: Intelligent Design

2005-01-05 Thread leaking pen
well yes. the plant cells gained energy from the sun and dyes, the animal like cells fed on sugars and other cells, thus those that had methods of movement fared better. plants still have CELLULAR MOVEMENT. as for intelligent design. i dont doubt the possibility. BUT ITS NOT SCIENTIFIC. its

Re: Funny comments

2005-01-11 Thread leaking pen
where did this come from? and take leadership roles? please, these guys coming back are making vietnam vets look like ex cops. its a new generation of homeless we're creating. and i find it funny that you talk of the lies of one president, without discussing the lies of the other. one lie was

Re: Does Dry H2O Ice Tap ZPE?

2005-01-13 Thread leaking pen
sublimation and natural balancing of concentration of states. the only time youd have a vp of 0 would be at absolute zero, above that, your still going to have a certain amount constantly going back and forth between solid and gas states. nothing unusual about it. On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:40:47

Re: Dream-inspired fringe-science invention

2005-01-21 Thread leaking pen
yeah, i remember that bit. iirc, he was seriously underestimating the force of the blast and velocity of the shrapnel thats ACTUALLY encountered by those forces hit by ied's. and im agreed here. this is bunk. a beam of light that kills things, makes walls transparent... from a dream...

Re: WAY OFF TOPIC - Doll held hostage

2005-02-02 Thread leaking pen
seriously, i was calling cnn for a bloody hour trying to tell someone. im on totalfark.com, and we had someone find the doll about 6 minutes after ap broke the story. we were laughing our guts out as all the news sources started carrying it, and then the freepers started talking about glass

Re: Role of God in government

2005-02-07 Thread leaking pen
jed, yeah, and facism was just a fad in germany. it still did a hell of a lot of damage. john... wow. we DONT need a military launchpad in the area, and if we did, there are other countries in the area relatively friendly to us that would have been less work. say, turkey. the us's purchase

Re: Fw: Role of God in government

2005-02-08 Thread leaking pen
the questions raised by Ed Storms and Leaking Pen in particular, I decided to answer them. Dear Ed; I'd like to make five challenges to you. These papers will give you some insight into our beliefs, BTW, Prager, Satinover and Singer are religious Jews. One, take the Dennis Prager Are you

Re: How to appear in the blogoshere?

2005-02-10 Thread leaking pen
Anyway, I set out to learn about these blog things . . . and I was not impressed. Most of them seem poorly written and unorganized. Most appear to be right wing political diatribes, or self-centered gabbing about nothing in particular, or recursive comments about the blogosphere itself. .

Re: Evangelical environmentalists

2005-02-21 Thread leaking pen
the thing to recognize also is that the evangelical christians are a minority of christians. being christian does not mean following falwell and robertson, believing that god created the earth in 7 days (i say to let people correct me, they love to) or that homosexuality is an abomination (as is

Re: Evangelical environmentalists

2005-02-22 Thread leaking pen
lets also add, with a given that god DID speak to people and the writers of the bible are true prophets, would god have been very literal? you have a group whos barely learned agriculture, nomadic, not much in the way of building. a year seems a long long time to them. you gonna explain the

Re: Higher Order Conservation Laws of Motion.

2005-02-22 Thread leaking pen
note though, that after velocity, they all become a measure of the rate of change. where is the original motion that is being constantly modified? there has to be an endpoint, yes no? or start point, as it were. On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:20:18 +, Grimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In previous

Re: Higher Order Conservation Laws of Motion.

2005-02-22 Thread leaking pen
ehh, your right. velocity is change in position. i was reffereing to position. my bad. but... to change someting, you have to have something to change. each line back describes how you are changing the next item down. if you have n number of derivatives, as n approaches infinity, shouldnt

Re: Hydro-polluter

2005-03-03 Thread leaking pen
img src=http://www.lemonizer.com/upload/uploadsJuly/jeez.jpg; please. yes, theres a release. but of less than what the plant matter took in in the first place. its not millenia of built up co2, its recent co2, and lets not forget that a lot of the plant co2 remains in solution, feeding alage

Re: The CoFu Bomb Game

2005-03-04 Thread leaking pen
wow. grimer. can we not see political bias just oozing from every pore? please, keep that off of here. On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 02:56:06 -0600, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grimer posted; Why not develop a computer game in which you first have to kidnap various scientists such as Dr

Re: attachments

2005-03-05 Thread leaking pen
also, feel free to email me the file off list, ill make a space on my webserver if youd like for vortex email items, and give the url here. On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:06:45 +, Grimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:05 pm 05-03-05 -0500, you wrote: Can I get a scanned diagram to go thru

Re: vortex mystery

2005-03-06 Thread leaking pen
a large amount of the energy that forms is from the friction between the water and the air bubbling up. as well as the coriolis force (though theres barely any there). in fact, if you perform this experiment in near vacuum, with teh water at a stand still, it will NOT form a vortex. On Mon, 07

Re: Health care costs

2005-03-08 Thread leaking pen
its true that there is more treatment available, but heres the thing. its NOT that expensive. an average 10k dollar surgery actually costs, in terms of materials and salarya and other overhead, maybe 1500. there is a MASSIVE price increase, because, well, pay or die. and as medical care as we

Re: Health care costs

2005-03-08 Thread leaking pen
, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote: its true that there is more treatment available, but heres the thing. its NOT that expensive. an average 10k dollar surgery actually costs, in terms of materials and salarya and other overhead, maybe 1500. there is a MASSIVE price

Re: Health care costs - outsourcing is working

2005-03-08 Thread leaking pen
the funny part is, thats not actually a joke. there IS a lot of outsourcing going on, and people here in the us making scads of cash, the ones that could actually afford the treatment here find it cheaper to fly overseas, where they can also get procedures done that arent yet fda approved, thus

Re: Health care costs - outsourcing is working

2005-03-08 Thread leaking pen
for those that can afford even that. most are simply going without, or with what they can get through medicare/ medicaid. On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 16:27:19 -0500, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote: the funny part is, thats not actually a joke. Not a joke at all

Re: More immediate threat: $2.10/gal gasoline

2005-03-09 Thread leaking pen
you might say it combines the worst features of capitalism and communism. as a someone who is a communist and a free market supporter (ones a government, ones an economy, there IS a difference) i agree completly. ive been saying that for years. On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:04:49 -0500, Jed Rothwell

Re: More immediate threat: $2.10/gal gasoline

2005-03-09 Thread leaking pen
that pay for the highways used by said coorps) things like that. On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:53:14 -0800, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: leaking pen you might say it combines the worst features of capitalism and communism. as a someone who is a communist

Re: More immediate threat: $2.10/gal gasoline

2005-03-10 Thread leaking pen
have you read the book midas world? On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:52:29 -0800 (PST), Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Economics give me a headache, I must confess. It's very difficult to grasp; but, if energy is free, we have no need for

water on mars: humor

2005-03-23 Thread leaking pen
sorry guys, got this one in an email, couldnt resist. first picture of water on mars. http://www.kiss-ezlink.com/downloads/funny/First%20picture%20of%20water%20on%20mars.jpg

Re: Detroit Pushing Diesel Hybrids

2005-03-23 Thread leaking pen
on the issue of fuel economy, a friend of mine just made a good point. there are an estimated 170 million cars on the road. if one in ten (seems likely) have a one ounce support the troops sticker, we are talking about a bit over a million pounds of metal being shipped around daily. On Thu, 24

Re: Detroit Pushing Diesel Hybrids

2005-03-24 Thread leaking pen
no, the support the troop ribbons are all magnetic. next time you see one, peel it off to see. (or, do like i do. i printed up several 8x10 sheets of bumpersticker paper with small sections that say bring them home now. i simply put that on their car right underneath support our troops. ) On

Re: Curing ourselves of the itch

2005-03-28 Thread leaking pen
jed, however, fundamentalist christians as a whole ARE trying to limit free speech. book burnings, demands to ban certain works, all that jazz. and your analogy is flawed. its closer to you waking up, finding others fighting the fire with a bucket brigade, and running around screaming FIRE FIRE

Incredibles

2005-03-28 Thread leaking pen
thought id mention this. family easter dinner, the kids were watching the incredibles. teh main villain is an inventor, is showing off his inventions by using them on the hero, and declares that they are powered by zero point energy.

Re: [OT] Re: Easter

2005-03-28 Thread leaking pen
thats what frightens me the most. resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. im christian, but the fundies frighten the living hell out of me. On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:23:04 -0500 (EST), Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Blanton writes: Pack-hunting predator instinct. I

Re: Easter

2005-03-29 Thread leaking pen
jn? not familiar with that book... On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:35:30 -0600, RC Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Blanton wrote.. What compels you to do this ? Best explained by reading verses 3 and 4. 1Jn 4: 1-4. As I stated, the Vortex group remains a viable site that enriches

Re: Wolves and Wolverines

2005-03-29 Thread leaking pen
ermm, he was talking about teh divinity of christ, not christianity itself. i personal agree with most of the gospels. im not sure if christ was the son of gawd or not. i dont care. i will follow his teachings anyways. i think the point was that the diety is a sort of, my god has a bigger

Re: OT: The will of God

2005-03-29 Thread leaking pen
BWAHAHAHAHHAHHAAA wow. yeah, all the islamic countries are third world. thats why, before we invaded, iraq had a higher standard of living and qol than we, and complete equality for men and women, including equal pay laws that we still refuse to pass here. your ignorance is showing. On Thu,

Re: (OT) will of god

2005-03-29 Thread leaking pen
. Being male means having male sexual organs, hormones and so on. As one critic put it, why does God supposedly have a penis if there is no Mrs. God? The word for the Holy Spirit, Ruach HaKodesh is feminine. The Leaking Pen posted; wow. yeah, all the islamic countries are third world

Re: New battery technology

2005-03-29 Thread leaking pen
wow. its a battery capacitor! definately increase the effectiveness of solar vehicles. On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:14:25 -0900, Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:34 AM 3/29/5, R. Wormus wrote: Press Release: New battery offers unsurpassed recharge performance and high energy

Re: Battery link at Toshiba

2005-03-29 Thread leaking pen
warning, virus. dont click. On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:32:40 -0700, Ron Wormus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write Voltaire

Re: New battery technology

2005-03-29 Thread leaking pen
and you are makeing a big assumption. that everyone would do a full charge everytime. do people fill the tank every time? so for ten cents on your order, or maybe even free, mcdonalds will charge your car as you go through the drive through. 2 minutes of charging, last you a couple hours

Re: New battery technology

2005-03-29 Thread leaking pen
not yet. we'll be moving over to a different economy, if this works. as for general public, links have been submitted to totalfark (a pay news site with about 2500 members that im part of) and a lot of discussion has been generated. news tends to go there from slashdot, and from there to the

Re: difference in world views

2005-04-01 Thread leaking pen
errm, nazis were atheists. lemarkian evolutionists philisophically, if memory serves. yes, im in college. i didnt say they were all great. and actually, ive been to iraq, about 6 years ago, as part of a high school exchange program. the farm slums are a higher quality than here. If it weren't

Re: difference in world views

2005-04-01 Thread leaking pen
hehehheee. ohh man, you have me giggling. one thing two, ive got a friend who i found out we are related in several different ways, and we are almost identical, from build to attitude to finger length. different faces, but hey. and we smell the same too, except that he gives off an odor that

Re: difference in world views

2005-04-01 Thread leaking pen
and unique opportunity to acquire a better understanding of your perception of reality. I have a brief comment. You recently stated: As a continuation of the will of god thread, I sent Leaking Pen a three page discussion on the differences in world views of liberals and conservatives. I'm

Re: [OT] The Next Pope

2005-04-04 Thread leaking pen
hes off. the next pope, via the prophecies of malachy (the old documents mentioned) is the glory of the olives. the pope AFTER him is supposed to be the final pope, peter the roman, though thats from later versions. On Apr 4, 2005 2:07 PM, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

2005-04-06 Thread leaking pen
thanks jed, beat me to it. but yes, acutally, there was a study done that showed that about 5 percent of condoms used correctly failed mechanically, usually as a result of being past the expiration date (a higher problem in the third world). ill have to hunt down the study. and theres a higher

Re: [OT] The Labor of the Sun

2005-04-06 Thread leaking pen
hey. nice spin on it. i was hoping hed last that long, so hed die on an eclipse day, but that works too. so, whos the glory of the olive? On Apr 6, 2005 10:49 AM, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some believe that St. Malachy predicted the popes from the 12th century on.

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

2005-04-06 Thread leaking pen
, leaking pen wrote: thanks jed, beat me to it. but yes, acutally, there was a study done that showed that about 5 percent of condoms used correctly failed mechanically, usually as a result of being past the expiration date (a higher problem in the third world). ill have to hunt down the study

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

2005-04-06 Thread leaking pen
from fear of aids that would have sex if they thought a condom would keep them safe is negligible. those using condoms, and breaking them, because they were never taught how to use them, is a larger group. On Apr 6, 2005 11:30 AM, leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually, a ruptured condom

Re: [OT] Constitutional Reform Act

2005-04-07 Thread leaking pen
heres teh deal. first thing it does, is, if a judge says, the bible rules me, and becuase of the bible, i say two men farking is wrong, take those fags out of my court and stone them till dead guess what. they would have NO recourse whatsoever. part two, only interpret based on the

Re: Windmills in the sky after all!

2005-04-07 Thread leaking pen
well, how big are we talking for the kites? if not too big, you could always move them during seasonal changes, also. have a few farms with tethers, move the actual units to the better area. just a thought. (and, if we ever got a beanstalk off the ground, we could fly a few off it.) On Apr 7,

Re: Windmills in the sky after all!

2005-04-07 Thread leaking pen
: leaking pen wrote: well, how big are we talking for the kites? if not too big, you could always move them during seasonal changes, also. I do not know how big they are, but I am sure they are light or they would not fly up in the air in the first place. All aircraft are made of lightweight

Re: vortex-digest Digest V2005 #174

2005-04-08 Thread leaking pen
dont do that. we thrive on dissagreement. On Apr 7, 2005 9:24 PM, John Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- John Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dang! I was going to stop talking. You *could* reconsider. Thanks, Terry. You're absolutely right. I have reconsidered, and have decided

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

2005-04-08 Thread leaking pen
your math assumes that all encounters are with someone who is hiv positive. On Apr 8, 2005 7:41 AM, Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take it then that no one here actually knows the failure rate of condoms with regard to protection from aids. Yet there are such fervent beliefs

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

2005-04-08 Thread leaking pen
not reflect reality. As Leaking Pen pointed out, you are assuming all partners are HIV positive. I would add that you talked about people having sex 7 years after becoming positive. Most HIV positive people in the third world, where AIDS is a problem, are dead after 7 years. Many of the ones who

Re: Opening the door for YOU, just a crack...

2005-04-10 Thread leaking pen
hehe. ive been capable of lucid dreaming since i was 6, but i still cant od more than a rudimenetary control over scene, events, probablility. it still runs out like a play in front of me. and youre making some BIG assumptions. On Apr 10, 2005 11:28 AM, Standing Bear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: The Invisible Man

2005-04-11 Thread leaking pen
might i suggest a short story, i believe by harlann ellison, though not sure on that, by the title of buckle down winsocki ? its about a man who experiences such episodes until he becomes totally invisible to all except those like him. i doubt youll like the explanation of why, but its an

Re: Opening the door for YOU, just a crack...

2005-04-11 Thread leaking pen
sorry. ive always been of the opinion that anything that alters my mind, and in particular my senses and how they interact, in a non predictive, nonrepeatable way, jeapordizes the trust i can place in my senses. and if i cant trust the senses, well, what good am i as a scientist? therefore,

Re: The Missing Five Commandments

2005-04-11 Thread leaking pen
blanton, which one? On Apr 11, 2005 11:41 AM, Blanton, Terry [RTPXCHG] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cute. Ackshully, you'll find all the commandments in the Egyptian Book of the Dead. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The Missing Five Commandments

2005-04-12 Thread leaking pen
dah, its the 125th chapter (not spell ) of the papyrus of ani. in partcular the questions asked of the recently deseaced during the weighing of the heart. its the five not jewish ones, ie, killing, stealing, fucking the neighbors wife, fucking the neighbors goat, that kind of thing. On Apr

Great pyramid... water pump?

2005-04-12 Thread leaking pen
I was just sent this by a friend. anyone seen it before? http://www.thepump.org/art3subcuttings.html it seems plausible, yet im immediately thinking there is an ou issue here. its essentially pumping water from the surface and back, yes no? with no extra source of energy.

Re: Gas tax / Unitarian Jihad

2005-04-14 Thread leaking pen
hey, your speaking to the katana of reasoned discussion here. hehehe On 4/14/05, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RC Macaulay wrote: Stephen Lawrence suggestion on gas tax presupposes integrity in government which cannot exist because the political animal cannot be tamed or

Re: Gas tax / Unitarian Jihad

2005-04-14 Thread leaking pen
no, even in modern japanese, a katana is a particular kind of sword. other notable japanese swords, the dai-katana (think greatsword made like a katana), the tachi, an even larger version, used from horseback, the ninja-to, a shorter, straight blade weapon, with a chisel point for penetrating

Re: OFF TOPIC Taxes

2005-04-14 Thread leaking pen
terry, yes, thats with eic. the numbers were worse before it was put into place btw, if you want to be truly sickened... look at corporate taxes. corporations recieve about 80 percent of the benefits given out in monetary form by the government, and pay about 10 percent of the taxes. ignore

Re: Gas Tax

2005-04-14 Thread leaking pen
better yet. raise it for the corporations that use most of the gas in their trucking fleets. in addition, start billing them for road usage, instead of the citizens. On 4/14/05, Kyle Mcallister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Stephen R. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe higher transport

Re: OFF TOPIC Taxes

2005-04-14 Thread leaking pen
unreported income? few thousand? naw, youve got a few people with large amounts of unreporte (ie, illegal) income. thats whats creating the average out. mostly drug dealers. On 4/14/05, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Blanton wrote: I assure you there is. I know several

Re: [OT] The Glory of the Olive

2005-04-19 Thread leaking pen
wow, i like how the guy thought hed be black, and called it HIS prediction (its a nostradamus prediction that this pope would be reffered to as the black pope) and, please. rat zinger is a well known believer in the prophecies of malachi. he did it on purpose. i think it likely theres a better,

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-23 Thread leaking pen
the EARLIEST dating of the pyramids points to about 10200, and ... you cant carbon date limestone. On 4/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The movie Highlander 2, The Quickening starring Christopher Lambert, has a pyramid in it much like the Giza pyramid which is powered by a

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-23 Thread leaking pen
::points upwards:: what he said. On 4/23/05, Mike Carrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Baronvolsung wrote: The movie Highlander 2, The Quickening starring Christopher Lambert, has a pyramid in it much like the Giza pyramid which is powered by a water cold fusion hydrogen power plant moat

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-24 Thread leaking pen
how... does that refute darwinian theory? at the point that humans took control of the environment, we no longer had to adapt as much to survive, therefore one WOULDNT assume that we are simply more intelligent than previous humans, we simply know more. take your personal biases OUT of a

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread leaking pen
theories, yes, but at the time, thats nothing remarkable. and i notice, you still havent answered my question. you might want to stop jabbing that strawman in the corner, the discussion is over HERE. On 4/24/05, RC Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leaking pen wrote.. how... does that refute

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread leaking pen
something ive refused to believe (that we are smarter) since discovering just how many things have been known for centuries or more that influence and shape modern technology. i agree completely, we arent smarter, we just have more tools to work with. however, one thing that IS different between

Re: Pyramid water pumps

2005-04-25 Thread leaking pen
degenerates darwinian? and... since according to this supposed thought, people are naturally smarter now, it wouldnt be degenerated, as nothing had yet been generated, yes no? On 4/25/05, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RC Macaulay wrote: Leaking Pen wrote and i notice, you

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread leaking pen
On 4/25/05, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith Nagel wrote: Mike writes: We moderns suffer from temporal chauvisism, the delusion that we are the smartest of all humanity [which is refuted by any teenager]. It happens that there are more tech geeks like us than

Re: Pyramid water pumps

2005-04-26 Thread leaking pen
im wiitiggg. hmm, not so quick on the reply when youve been called on what youve said, and are out of wiggle room, it seems. On 4/25/05, leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems antiquity is loaded with examples of engineering and architectural works that have us thinking

Re: OT: Leaking Pen asked and answered

2005-04-27 Thread leaking pen
education, ect. dont assume, youve made enough of an ass out of yourself already. On 4/27/05, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/25/05, leaking pen wrote; that age were intelligent beings and had not degenerated which seems to contradict the Darwinian theorists. RC

Re: OT: Leaking Pen asked and answered

2005-04-28 Thread leaking pen
once again, you have FAILED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. a statement that is patently false has been made, and no explanation has been given. i toe no party line, and will not argue the shortcomings of many of darwins thoughts. i simply do not like seeing obvious falsehoods about ANYONES work. as

Re: RE: Computers and Religion

2005-04-28 Thread leaking pen
but, as a son of adam and eve in part, would jesus not also hold some aspect of original sin? in fact, his creation would never have been neccesary if not for that bite from the fruit of knowledge of good and evil, yes no? (which, btw, was a fig, not an apple) so why not the mac? /jesus loves

Re: Computers and Religion

2005-04-28 Thread leaking pen
yeah, well, this is a topic for humor and a bit ot, so hey. /didnt know that though. makes one wonder, then mary wasnt really the mother of christ. wait... nicean... yeah, constantine can go jump in a lake. On 4/28/05, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote

Re: Sing the Sun Electric

2005-04-28 Thread leaking pen
well, ive made ball lightning in a glass before (see bills wonderful website) but in metal? On 4/28/05, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Blanton posted; Not everyone believes fusion powers the sun: Excellent post Terry. I have a neighbor, John T Nordberg,

vacuum cleaner static vortex

2005-04-30 Thread leaking pen
hey all, i thought id share something interesting ive notice. ive gotten a new vacuum, one of those bagless ones that circles the dust along the outside, with a central outtake and outer intake. the sucker started shocking me on the hand, and, afraid it was sorting somewhere, i unplugged it ,

Re: vacuum cleaner static vortex

2005-05-01 Thread leaking pen
its a dirt devil dynamite, its been doing this since it was bought, and its probably been run about 5 hours now without a cleaning and still building up charge. yes, rather dry, i am in arizona after all. however, its done it with a high humidity as well, just not as much buildup. taking a

Re: [Vo]: stationary emdrive- inertial anchor

2006-09-15 Thread leaking pen
if its based on difference in wave velocity, wouldnt stationary be based on the surrounding radiation fields? and if so... now, uber amateur here, im einsteinian, in that, im great with theory, weak with mathematics, would two of these drives mounted at an angle to each other, say, a 90 between

[Vo]: Testing

2006-09-29 Thread leaking pen
testing subject. -- That which yields isn't always weak.

Re: [Vo]: Testing

2006-09-29 Thread leaking pen
well, all i did was write a suject in the subject field. are you adding the [Vo}: yourself jones? On 9/29/06, leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: testing subject. -- That which yields isn't always weak. -- That which yields isn't always weak.

Re: [Vo]: Testing

2006-09-29 Thread leaking pen
ohh, youre using outlook express. thats your problem there. its a pos. ive had mails sent but not sent, subject lines mangled and dropped ALL the time when i was using it. On 9/29/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] well

Re: [Vo]: OT: Massive oil field found under Gulf

2006-10-09 Thread leaking pen
first off, how does this give evidence of an abiotic source? im missing something. second, even if true, its formed very very slowly. meaning we WILL run out. On 9/12/06, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Massive oil field found under Gulf Reserves south of New Orleans could rival

[Vo]: It was indeed a nuke

2006-10-16 Thread leaking pen
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,221182,00.html And, less than a kiloton. now, everyone ive heard is saying, wow, thats just a baby nuke. aww, isnt that cute. they blew up a bomb smaller than some CONVENTIAL bombs we have. however, i recall back when the bunker buster nukes were being

Re: [Vo]: Kim's nuke

2006-10-16 Thread leaking pen
rots the brain.. yeah, some say the same about comic books. and http://www.fas.org/faspir/2001/v54n1/weapons.htm On 10/16/06, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just heard Fox news say that the NK did detonate an atom bomb. Last night Hal Lindsey mentioned the 550 ton yield. Since the

Re: [VO]:Stare

2006-10-21 Thread leaking pen
should the net ever truly become a war ground, it will return to the original field of battle, as it was in the late 80s (this war is older than you think) and it will compartmentalize. connections will e through central nodes, like the bbs'es of old. there are already people working on teh

Re: [Vo]: Bill Beaty's inspiring Videos

2006-11-02 Thread leaking pen
bill put up videos? i missed this. anyone have a link? On 11/2/06, Steven Krivit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to Bill Beaty's inspiring science videos on YouTube, I've decided to start putting up some of my own content. So when you're really bored and have nothing to do, here's the first

Re: [Vo]: BioMimicry, the old way

2006-11-28 Thread leaking pen
first off, i first heard the theory that earth spent time as an iceball after the molten slagball before the dirt ball stage AGES ago. its an accepted geologic theory that said icing over is what broke down early rock into the first sand and dirt to provide a base for life as the ice melted.

Re: [VO]:Re: BioMimicry, the old way

2006-11-28 Thread leaking pen
actually, the more elastic something is, the more it forms a ball under its own gravity as well as surface tension. (ie, fluids, even if small enough to not have gravity of their own, will still pull into a sphere in zero g from surface tension. its the smallest volume to surface area ratio,

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