Hi All,
This is off-topic for vortex, but I think everyone should
be aware of this scam.
Jack Smith
``Credit Card Scam
http://snopes.com/
Snopes.com says this is true. See this site -
http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/creditcard.asp
This one is pretty slick since they provide YOU with
In reply to Taylor J. Smith's message of Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:30:13 +:
Hi,
[snip]
Perhaps, if you go along with the scam, and give them a completely made up (and
wrong) security code, then when they try to make a transaction against your
card, it will fail, and set off alarms potentially
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Paul sez:
So essentially all the wasted energy ends up in the air.
It's amazing how much energy flow air can handle given
sufficient air circulation. In tracker pulling
competition a single 3K HP (2.2 MegaWatts) engine is
no biggie. I was just looking
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
SUBJECT: RE: [Vo]: Scam or no?
Paul sez:
So essentially all the wasted energy ends up in the air.
It's amazing how much energy flow air can handle given
sufficient air circulation. In tracker pulling
competition a single 3K HP (2.2 MegaWatts) engine
Paul,
You deserve a break today.
Somebody needs a nap.
Think I'll take a little lunch snooze myself as well.
Sweet dreams.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
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Paul sez:
So essentially all the wasted
A small auto racing company called Zigouras has gotten into the
ultra-efficient electrolysis fray and claims to power an ICE on
self-generated hydrogen [Brown's Gas] with zero gasoline. Money back
guarantee!
The inventor, Paul Zigouras summarized the main details on another forum:
1. The
Jones Beene wrote:
They have an electroyzer driven by very high amps off of a beefed up
alternator in an auto - they are claiming to be capable of
electrolyzing 5 gallons of water per minute (impossible !) and then
using only this (part steam part H2 and O2 or Brown's gas)
5 gallons = 19
Jed Rothwell wrote:
I vote scam. The claim is preposterous, and the supposed output is off
by a factor of 7 or more.
...more like 70 than 7.
Let's say they were electrolyzing 5 gallons per hour, instead of per
minute - (this info has been passed around the web enough for typos to
be
Jones Beene wrote:
...more like 70 than 7.
Let's say they were electrolyzing 5 gallons per hour, instead of
per minute - (this info has been passed around the web enough for
typos to be repeated) that is still plenty of gas to power an ICE if
much of it was short lived chemical
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From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Scam or no?
5 gallons = 19 liters; 19 kg. The heat of vaporization of water is 540
cal/g, so they are claiming at least 42 MJ/min energy
Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
Then you are up to 0.75 megawatt.
Of course, it gets hot, so you have to have a bloody good cooling
system. A time honored trick that helps a lot is to remove the
thermostat and let the coolant free-flow. Add an extra belt-driven or
electric powered coolant pump, an
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