Re: [Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage

2013-07-24 Thread David Roberson
The timing of this action speaks volumes to me.  I hope this is not indicative 
of what we can expect to see in the future.


Mark[mg], I wish you well and thank you for your brave reporting about a 
subject that apparently hits some raw nerves.



Dave



-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Jul 24, 2013 12:37 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage



I only wish that I couldcancel my non-existent subscription in protest. The 
“capitalist tool”is already infamous for giving its advertisers a high level of 
“editorialvoice” which is pretty much in line with the emerging doctrine of 
corporate“personhood” and other niceties of the brave new world, so I guesswe 
better get used to it. 
 
This probably means that afew corporate advertisers and trade groups already 
control most of the contentof this magazine in hidden ways, including silencing 
voices which threaten thevarious hegemonies - not just oil. How long before all 
magazines give the samelevel of control - abdicating any sense of fairness or 
journalisticresponsibility, and just as openly? 
 
The unification ofadvertising and journalism is scary, to say the least, but 
actually using thatkind of influence to silence other voices is scarier. Forbes 
certainly appearsto wants to be the frontrunner in moving the bar beyond even 
“personhood”… Malcolm would be so proud of little Stevie…
 
“You can easily judge the character of a man byhow he treats those who can do 
nothing for him.”—Malcolm S. Forbes.
 
Jones
 
From:mark.gi...@gmail.com 
 

Ladies and Gentlemen,

 

Following my last post to my blog on Forbes 
(http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/07/23/defkalion-demonstrates-lenr-live-right-now/)my
 tenure with that organization has come to an end. 

 

Before the conspiracy theorists proclaim that it wasdue to my ongoing interest 
in LENR be aware that there is no (obvious) evidencefor that conclusion and it 
probably owes more to editorial policy and poorcommunication than anything 
overtly conspiratorial.

 

I will still cover any significant LENR developmentsin my Network World blog 
(http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/96)but the focus there is 
considerably different so unless it has a significantbearing on IT the topic 
won't get covered.

 

Thanks for all your plaudits, criticisms, and commentsin my Forbes postings 
over the last couple of years.

 

Regards,

Mark Gibbs.






Re: [Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage

2013-07-24 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Mark,
You are always (and now especially) welcome with
an guest editorial on the Blog Ego Out.
However I predict you are only a temporary martyr
of the LENR oppression. Truth will triumph.
Peter


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 5:11 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

 The timing of this action speaks volumes to me.  I hope this is not
 indicative of what we can expect to see in the future.

  Mark[mg], I wish you well and thank you for your brave reporting about a
 subject that apparently hits some raw nerves.

  Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wed, Jul 24, 2013 12:37 am
 Subject: RE: [Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage

   I only wish that I could cancel my non-existent subscription in
 protest. The “capitalist tool” is already infamous for giving its
 advertisers a high level of “editorial voice” which is pretty much in line
 with the emerging doctrine of corporate “personhood” and other niceties of
 the brave new world, so I guess we better get used to it.

 This probably means that a few corporate advertisers and trade groups
 already control most of the content of this magazine in hidden ways,
 including silencing voices which threaten the various hegemonies - not just
 oil. How long before all magazines give the same level of control -
 abdicating any sense of fairness or journalistic responsibility, and just
 as openly?

 The unification of advertising and journalism is scary, to say the least,
 but actually using that kind of influence to silence other voices is
 scarier. Forbes certainly appears to wants to be the frontrunner in moving
 the bar beyond even “personhood” … Malcolm would be so proud of little
 Stevie…

 *“You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who
 can do nothing for him.”—Malcolm S. Forbes.*

 Jones

 *From:* mark.gi...@gmail.com

  Ladies and Gentlemen,

  Following my last post to my blog on Forbes (
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/07/23/defkalion-demonstrates-lenr-live-right-now/)
 my tenure with that organization has come to an end.

  Before the conspiracy theorists proclaim that it was due to my ongoing
 interest in LENR be aware that there is no (obvious) evidence for that
 conclusion and it probably owes more to editorial policy and poor
 communication than anything overtly conspiratorial.

  I will still cover any significant LENR developments in my Network World
 blog (http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/96) but the focus there
 is considerably different so unless it has a significant bearing on IT the
 topic won't get covered.

  Thanks for all your plaudits, criticisms, and comments in my Forbes
 postings over the last couple of years.

  Regards,
  Mark Gibbs.




-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage

2013-07-24 Thread blaze spinnaker
Well, at least you went out with a bang!

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:

 Ladies and Gentlemen,

 Following my last post to my blog on Forbes (
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/07/23/defkalion-demonstrates-lenr-live-right-now/)
 my tenure with that organization has come to an end.

 Before the conspiracy theorists proclaim that it was due to my ongoing
 interest in LENR be aware that there is no (obvious) evidence for that
 conclusion and it probably owes more to editorial policy and poor
 communication than anything overtly conspiratorial.

 I will still cover any significant LENR developments in my Network World
 blog (http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/96) but the focus there
 is considerably different so unless it has a significant bearing on IT the
 topic won't get covered.

 Thanks for all your plaudits, criticisms, and comments in my Forbes
 postings over the last couple of years.

 Regards,
 Mark Gibbs.



[Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage

2013-07-23 Thread Mark Gibbs
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Following my last post to my blog on Forbes (
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/07/23/defkalion-demonstrates-lenr-live-right-now/)
my tenure with that organization has come to an end.

Before the conspiracy theorists proclaim that it was due to my ongoing
interest in LENR be aware that there is no (obvious) evidence for that
conclusion and it probably owes more to editorial policy and poor
communication than anything overtly conspiratorial.

I will still cover any significant LENR developments in my Network World
blog (http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/96) but the focus there is
considerably different so unless it has a significant bearing on IT the
topic won't get covered.

Thanks for all your plaudits, criticisms, and comments in my Forbes
postings over the last couple of years.

Regards,
Mark Gibbs.


Re: [Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage

2013-07-23 Thread ChemE Stewart
Thanks for keeping an open mind about this stuff


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:

 Ladies and Gentlemen,

 Following my last post to my blog on Forbes (
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/07/23/defkalion-demonstrates-lenr-live-right-now/)
 my tenure with that organization has come to an end.

 Before the conspiracy theorists proclaim that it was due to my ongoing
 interest in LENR be aware that there is no (obvious) evidence for that
 conclusion and it probably owes more to editorial policy and poor
 communication than anything overtly conspiratorial.

 I will still cover any significant LENR developments in my Network World
 blog (http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/96) but the focus there
 is considerably different so unless it has a significant bearing on IT the
 topic won't get covered.

 Thanks for all your plaudits, criticisms, and comments in my Forbes
 postings over the last couple of years.

 Regards,
 Mark Gibbs.



Re: [Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage

2013-07-23 Thread Alan Fletcher
 From: Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 8:23:20 PM

 Following my last post to my blog on Forbes (
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/07/23/defkalion-demonstrates-lenr-live-right-now/
 ) my tenure with that organization has come to an end.

Gee [ and we won't even get the final report =8-(  ] --- wishing you the best 
for your ongoing endeavors.

Alan



Re: [Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage

2013-07-23 Thread Randy Wuller
Mark:

No (obvious) evidence and probably?

I enjoyed your blog posts.

Ransom

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:

 Ladies and Gentlemen,
 
 Following my last post to my blog on Forbes 
 (http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/07/23/defkalion-demonstrates-lenr-live-right-now/)
  my tenure with that organization has come to an end. 
 
 Before the conspiracy theorists proclaim that it was due to my ongoing 
 interest in LENR be aware that there is no (obvious) evidence for that 
 conclusion and it probably owes more to editorial policy and poor 
 communication than anything overtly conspiratorial.
 
 I will still cover any significant LENR developments in my Network World blog 
 (http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/96) but the focus there is 
 considerably different so unless it has a significant bearing on IT the topic 
 won't get covered.
 
 Thanks for all your plaudits, criticisms, and comments in my Forbes postings 
 over the last couple of years.
 
 Regards,
 Mark Gibbs.


Re: [Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage

2013-07-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:

Gee [ and we won't even get the final report =8-(  ] --- wishing you the
 best for your ongoing endeavors.


Same here.  That's too bad.  Good luck with your next engagement.

Forbes and Wired are practically the only mainstream publications that have
been touching LENR in the past few years.  I'm sure there were some letters
written to your supervisors, trying to help them understand that you were
putting Forbes's reputation at risk.  They will have used monetary terms --
Forbes will lose X dollars in revenue from lost visits if it continues to
allow itself to be used as a platform for pseudoscience boosterism.  This
kind of thing can be scary for managers.  Perhaps there was no conspiracy;
but neither I would not write one off right away.

Eric


RE: [Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage

2013-07-23 Thread Jones Beene
I only wish that I could cancel my non-existent subscription in protest. The
capitalist tool is already infamous for giving its advertisers a high
level of editorial voice which is pretty much in line with the emerging
doctrine of corporate personhood and other niceties of the brave new
world, so I guess we better get used to it. 

 

This probably means that a few corporate advertisers and trade groups
already control most of the content of this magazine in hidden ways,
including silencing voices which threaten the various hegemonies - not just
oil. How long before all magazines give the same level of control -
abdicating any sense of fairness or journalistic responsibility, and just as
openly? 

 

The unification of advertising and journalism is scary, to say the least,
but actually using that kind of influence to silence other voices is
scarier. Forbes certainly appears to wants to be the frontrunner in moving
the bar beyond even personhood . Malcolm would be so proud of little
Stevie.

 

You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can
do nothing for him.-Malcolm S. Forbes.

 

Jones

 

From: mark.gi...@gmail.com 

 

Ladies and Gentlemen,

 

Following my last post to my blog on Forbes
(http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/07/23/defkalion-demonstrates-len
r-live-right-now/) my tenure with that organization has come to an end. 

 

Before the conspiracy theorists proclaim that it was due to my ongoing
interest in LENR be aware that there is no (obvious) evidence for that
conclusion and it probably owes more to editorial policy and poor
communication than anything overtly conspiratorial.

 

I will still cover any significant LENR developments in my Network World
blog (http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/96) but the focus there is
considerably different so unless it has a significant bearing on IT the
topic won't get covered.

 

Thanks for all your plaudits, criticisms, and comments in my Forbes postings
over the last couple of years.

 

Regards,

Mark Gibbs.



RE: [Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage

2013-07-23 Thread Craig Brown
Looks like you must have rattled a few cages Mark. This is hardly surprising given the establishment's close ties to the fossil fuel lobby. If I had 400 Trillion in fossil fuel assets I would be VERY glad you had stopped writing about LENR. Good that you managed to raise awareness of LENR while you were there.All the best!Craig

 Original Message 
Subject: [Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage
From: Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com
Date: Wed, July 24, 2013 1:23 pm
To: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" vortex-l@eskimo.com

Ladies and Gentlemen,Following my last post to my blog on Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/07/23/defkalion-demonstrates-lenr-live-right-now/) my tenure with that organization has come to an end. Before the conspiracy theorists proclaim that it was due to my ongoing interest in LENR be aware that there is no (obvious) evidence for that conclusion and it probably owes more to editorial policy and poor communication than anything overtly conspiratorial. I will still cover any significant LENR developments in my Network World blog (http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/96) but the focus there is considerably different so unless it has a significant bearing on IT the topic won't get covered. Thanks for all your plaudits, criticisms, and comments in my Forbes postings over the last couple of years.Regards,Mark Gibbs. 





Re: [Vo]:Forbes LENR Coverage

2013-07-23 Thread Alain Sepeda
It is not the dirty capitalist who block LENR.
it is the academics, and the intelligenzia, the apparatchick of science,
protecting their truth and their budgets, who terrorized even the trash
Media.
Forbes is financial, so whatever it is inconvenient they need the data.
Wires have no image to protect, and academics cannot hurts them.


the oil lord have funded LENR, not (yet) blocked it.

problem is science a a human system.no more, no less.
Nature, Science, the cartel of high impact publication,  DoE advisors,
XARPA funding.

the problem is also the cowardliness, and dependence of all scientific
actors who obey the orders of a cartel of truth holders.

even Top electrochemist had to surrender to the dogma despite their
findings, or they had to finish like Bockris and Fleischmann


2013/7/24 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net

  I only wish that I could cancel my non-existent subscription in protest.
 The “capitalist tool” is already infamous for giving its advertisers a high
 level of “editorial voice” which is pretty much in line with the emerging
 doctrine of corporate “personhood” and other niceties of the brave new
 world, so I guess we better get used to it. 

 ** **

 This probably means that a few corporate advertisers and trade groups
 already control most of the content of this magazine in hidden ways,
 including silencing voices which threaten the various hegemonies - not just
 oil. How long before all magazines give the same level of control -
 abdicating any sense of fairness or journalistic responsibility, and just
 as openly? 

 ** **

 The unification of advertising and journalism is scary, to say the least,
 but actually using that kind of influence to silence other voices is
 scarier. Forbes certainly appears to wants to be the frontrunner in moving
 the bar beyond even “personhood” … Malcolm would be so proud of little
 Stevie…

 ** **

 *“You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who
 can do nothing for him.”—Malcolm S. Forbes.*

 ** **

 Jones

 ** **

 *From:* mark.gi...@gmail.com 

 ** **

 Ladies and Gentlemen,

 ** **

 Following my last post to my blog on Forbes (
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/07/23/defkalion-demonstrates-lenr-live-right-now/)
 my tenure with that organization has come to an end. 

 ** **

 Before the conspiracy theorists proclaim that it was due to my ongoing
 interest in LENR be aware that there is no (obvious) evidence for that
 conclusion and it probably owes more to editorial policy and poor
 communication than anything overtly conspiratorial.

 ** **

 I will still cover any significant LENR developments in my Network World
 blog (http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/96) but the focus there
 is considerably different so unless it has a significant bearing on IT the
 topic won't get covered.

 ** **

 Thanks for all your plaudits, criticisms, and comments in my Forbes
 postings over the last couple of years.

 ** **

 Regards,

 Mark Gibbs.