[Vo]:George Miley trained Scott Little in person in Nov 1996 on use of costly CETI RIFEX kit -- Little had many discussions during his runs -- no hints re using D2O not H2O: Rich Murray 2010.08.10

2010-08-10 Thread Rich Murray
George Miley trained Scott Little in person in Nov 1996 on use of costly 
CETI RIFEX kit -- Little had many discussions during his runs -- no hints re 
using D2O not H2O: Rich Murray 2010.08.10

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The remarkable amount of detail in the two Earthtech reports
is essential for starting to appreciate the multitude of things
that have to be very carefully dealt with in order to achieve
accurate results.


Initial Preparations and Description of Apparatus

We received our RIFEX kit in December 1996 immediately
after attending a training session hosted by Dr. Miley on the
University of Illinois campus.
The session provided basic instructions on the experiment
protocol and a review of Dr. Miley's findings.

Acknowledgements

We would like to thank Dr. George Miley and Mike
Williams of the University of Illinois for discussions.
We are also indebted to Dr. Dennis Cravens and Maria
Okuniewski of CETI for their patience and guidance with the
RIFEX protocol.

http://earthtech.org/experiments/rifex/rifex.pdf
33 pages  288 KB

Search for Evidence of Nuclear Transmutations in the
CETI RIFEX Kit

Scott Little and H. E. Puthoff, Ph.D.,
EarthTech International, Inc
4030 Braker Lane West, Austin, TX 78759

Abstract

A series of experiments has been performed with the CETI
RIFEX kit.
In each experiment an electrolytic cell with a cathode
composed of metal-coated plastic beads was operated for
two weeks.
The cathode beads were then analyzed by x-ray
fluorescence for evidence of nuclear transmutations.
Several elements were observed to appear in the reacted
beads.
Analyses of the electrolyte and other components of the
system in contact with the electrolyte are not conclusive
but suggest to us that these elements were present in the
system initially.

http://earthtech.org/experiments/rifex/rifexcal.pdf
15 pages 246 KB

Calorimetric Study of Pd/Ni Beads From the CETI RIFEX
Kit
Scott Little and Hal Puthoff, Ph.D.,
EarthTech International, Inc.
4030 Braker Lane West, Austin TX 78759

Abstract

A series of calorimetric experiments have been performed
with the CETI RIFEX kit.
In these experiments an electrolytic cell with a cathode
composed of Pd/Ni-coated plastic beads was operated in a
calorimeter that simultaneously measured the heat evolved
from the cell by two independent methods.
With a detection limit of approximately 0.1 watts we did not
observe any excess heat from these beads.
Included is a detailed description of the calorimeter, which
was designed and constructed specifically for these
experiments.

Introduction

The Rifex kit is part of a program initiated by CETI 1 to allow
cooperative laboratory exploration of the transmutation effects
that have been reported in the Patterson 2 cell by Dr. G.H.
Miley, et al 3,4.
EarthTech purchased a Rifex kit and attended a training
seminar presented jointly by Dr. Miley and CETI in Nov 1996
at the University of Illinois.


- Original Message - 
From: Jones Beene

To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Cravens comments on the need for heavy
water

BTW --  having reread the EarthTech report, with the
advantage of hindsight -- where they used DI water, we
should remember (if I am not mistaken) that this is made by
passing water through ion exchange columns, one of which
can contain sodium hydroxide.

http://www.earthtech.org/experiments/rifex/rifexcal.pdf

This can inadvertently enrich the water with sodium ions
and may have contributed to the failure of EarthTech to
reproduce excess heat.
Maybe Dennis would like to comment on that detail.

Li2SO4 was the electrolyte and if sodium ions were present,
this could yield sodium sulfate which is chemically stable and
unreactive at ambient temperature.
Probably this experiment had no chance from the start -- if
that is the case.

Had they used pure heavy water instead -- and gotten
positive results back then, who knows that history might
have been changed in miraculous ways -- given the financial
connections which were involved.

From: Jones Beene

Just so we are clear on this, EarthTech and others who
showed no excess heat with the CETI beads used DI water
(distilled) but not heavy water.
Miley got positive results with D2O.

As Dennis says pure heavy water is essential with Pd, bulk
or gas loading nano-particles.

Therefore there is no evidence here to counter my original
claim that there is ZERO experimental data to show that
hydrogen can perform as well as or better than deuterium
in similar experiments.
However, lots of data shows that deuterium performs better.

ERGO, the BLP reactor, should it ever emerge from the
laboratory, will likely perform better with a deuterium
substitution.
This probably voids the 

RE: [Vo]:George Miley trained Scott Little in person in Nov 1996 on use of costly CETI RIFEX kit -- Little had many discussions during his runs -- no hints re using D2O not H2O: Rich Murray 2010.08.10

2010-08-10 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message-
From: Rich Murray 

The remarkable amount of detail in the two Earthtech reports
is essential for starting to appreciate the multitude of things
that have to be very carefully dealt with in order to achieve
accurate results.


The thing that I find confusing in 2010 - is that Dennis Cravens, who is a
brilliant hands-on experimenter, and who was apparently in this deeper than
Miley or anyone else still living - seems to be saying, at least in the
present tense, that the beads ONLY worked reliably with deuterium.

Am I misreading something?

Jones