RE: [Vo]:Grand theory of Philippe Hatt
Bob, These theories also seem to support the radical conclusion (heresy) of proton annihilation at relatively low input power. Holmlid documents the same muons that CERN sees at much higher power. However, with Holmlid there is the large gap in reproducible experimental evidence. LENR desperately needs a replication of muon production from laser irradiation of dense hydrogen - to validate Holmlid. From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com Stubbs has a good paper in Infinite Energy about a year ago that presented high energy electron testing in your neck of the woods that was consistent with Hatt’s theory, particularly the presence of muons in the structure of protons and neutrons. Hatt’s predictions of the mass and electrical/magnetic properties of muons (all three types) are accurate. Stubbs and Hatt are in contact with each other as far as I know. The standard theory involving the idea of quarks is merely a good empirical correlation that has come out of high energy physics experiments. The fractional spin and charge associated with the “quark zoo” of imaginary (virtual) particles IMHO belies the empirical nature of the standard model. Planck would take issue with the idea that spin quanta can be divvied up in fractional quanta less than h/2pie units. I tend to consider that electrons and positrons are real primary particles which carry a unit quanta of charge and spin, not fractional units of the respective charge and angular momentum units. Bob Cook From: JonesBeene >From the strange coincidences department: I was going to recommend another interesting GUT-type of theory (that of William L Stubbs) where simple logic takes the place of complex mathematics… and lo and behold, most of the former links have gone cold, but in this one … it looks like Hatt beat me to it by a couple of years http://vixra.org/abs/1511.0191 Does this mean a lepton basis for mass was once a “hatt topic”? Between Stubbs and Hatt, there could something being missed by the mainstream - simplicity. It is possibly no accident that CERN has pretty much unknowingly validated Stubbs muon cross-identity: http://home.cern/images/2014/01/higgs-boson-decay-four-muons (which is a simulation, giving them plenty of wiggle room) From: Nigel Dyer As you already know, I find this sort of work fascinating. The hope is that looking at the data in a different way might result in seeing some connection that has been missed when we just look at the standard model and which might in turn inform our understanding of the standard model.. What is intriguing is how little quarks figure in the document, the only bit being when Phillip looks at the three generations of quarks. The basis for the three generations of matter is particularly poorly understood, so if this approach provides an insight then that would be useful. On an initial skim through I have not spotted any obvious leads Nigel JonesBeene wrote: This theory will not appeal to everyone but it has attractive features which “tend to grow on you”. Thumbs up from me. http://philippehatt.com/ http://philippehatt.com/document1.pdf The author (like Peter Gluck and Cervantes) is quite fond of, and skilled at neology – making-up new English words – which some find annoying. The author (like Einstein) finds that the precision and simplicity of the basic Universal dynamic (massification/demassification) points to a kind of superior intelligence – which some find annoying Not me, in fact with a little editing this could be made into grand literature - of some arcane but enjoyable genre… “beyond hard sci-fi” or… it could win the Nobel if correct. Take your pick. Apparently this thinking is not new, and others have already borrowed heavily from it. It was presented at Sochi recently, mainly for Russians, but the author’s name was misspelled. Not that anyone noticed…
RE: [Vo]:Grand theory of Philippe Hatt
Jones— Stubbs has a good paper in Infinite Energy about a year ago that presented high energy electron testing in your neck of the woods that was consistent with Hatt’s theory, particularly the presence of muons in the structure of protons and neutrons. Hatt’s predictions of the mass and electrical/magnetic properties of muons (all three types) are accurate. Stubbs and Hatt are in contact with each other as far as I know. The standard theory involving the idea of quarks is merely a good empirical correlation that has come out of high energy physics experiments. The fractional spin and charge associated with the “quark zoo” of imaginary (virtual) particles IMHO belies the empirical nature of the standard model. Planck would take issue with the idea that spin quanta can be divvied up in fractional quanta less than h/2pie units. I tend to consider that electrons and positrons are real primary particles which carry a unit quanta of charge and spin, not fractional units of the respective charge and angular momentum units. Bob Cook From: JonesBeene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 7:13 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Grand theory of Philippe Hatt >From the strange coincidences department: I was going to recommend another interesting GUT-type of theory (that of William L Stubbs) where simple logic takes the place of complex mathematics… and lo and behold, most of the former links have gone cold, but in this one … it looks like Hatt beat me to it by a couple of years http://vixra.org/abs/1511.0191 Does this mean a lepton basis for mass was once a “hatt topic”? Between Stubbs and Hatt, there could something being missed by the mainstream - simplicity. It is possibly no accident that CERN has pretty much unknowingly validated Stubbs muon cross-identity: http://home.cern/images/2014/01/higgs-boson-decay-four-muons (which is a simulation, giving them plenty of wiggle room) From: Nigel Dyer<mailto:l...@thedyers.org.uk> As you already know, I find this sort of work fascinating. The hope is that looking at the data in a different way might result in seeing some connection that has been missed when we just look at the standard model and which might in turn inform our understanding of the standard model.. What is intriguing is how little quarks figure in the document, the only bit being when Phillip looks at the three generations of quarks. The basis for the three generations of matter is particularly poorly understood, so if this approach provides an insight then that would be useful. On an initial skim through I have not spotted any obvious leads Nigel JonesBeene wrote: This theory will not appeal to everyone but it has attractive features which “tend to grow on you”. Thumbs up from me. http://philippehatt.com/ http://philippehatt.com/document1.pdf<http://philippehatt..com/document1.pdf> The author (like Peter Gluck and Cervantes) is quite fond of, and skilled at neology – making-up new English words – which some find annoying. The author (like Einstein) finds that the precision and simplicity of the basic Universal dynamic (massification/demassification) points to a kind of superior intelligence – which some find annoying Not me, in fact with a little editing this could be made into grand literature - of some arcane but enjoyable genre… “beyond hard sci-fi” or… it could win the Nobel if correct. Take your pick. Apparently this thinking is not new, and others have already borrowed heavily from it. It was presented at Sochi recently, mainly for Russians, but the author’s name was misspelled. Not that anyone noticed…
RE: [Vo]:Grand theory of Philippe Hatt
>From the strange coincidences department: I was going to recommend another interesting GUT-type of theory (that of William L Stubbs) where simple logic takes the place of complex mathematics… and lo and behold, most of the former links have gone cold, but in this one … it looks like Hatt beat me to it by a couple of years http://vixra.org/abs/1511.0191 Does this mean a lepton basis for mass was once a “hatt topic”? Between Stubbs and Hatt, there could something being missed by the mainstream - simplicity. It is possibly no accident that CERN has pretty much unknowingly validated Stubbs muon cross-identity: http://home.cern/images/2014/01/higgs-boson-decay-four-muons (which is a simulation, giving them plenty of wiggle room) From: Nigel Dyer As you already know, I find this sort of work fascinating. The hope is that looking at the data in a different way might result in seeing some connection that has been missed when we just look at the standard model and which might in turn inform our understanding of the standard model. What is intriguing is how little quarks figure in the document, the only bit being when Phillip looks at the three generations of quarks. The basis for the three generations of matter is particularly poorly understood, so if this approach provides an insight then that would be useful. On an initial skim through I have not spotted any obvious leads Nigel JonesBeene wrote: This theory will not appeal to everyone but it has attractive features which “tend to grow on you”. Thumbs up from me. http://philippehatt.com/ http://philippehatt.com/document1.pdf The author (like Peter Gluck and Cervantes) is quite fond of, and skilled at neology – making-up new English words – which some find annoying. The author (like Einstein) finds that the precision and simplicity of the basic Universal dynamic (massification/demassification) points to a kind of superior intelligence – which some find annoying Not me, in fact with a little editing this could be made into grand literature - of some arcane but enjoyable genre… “beyond hard sci-fi” or… it could win the Nobel if correct. Take your pick. Apparently this thinking is not new, and others have already borrowed heavily from it. It was presented at Sochi recently, mainly for Russians, but the author’s name was misspelled. Not that anyone noticed…
RE: [Vo]:Grand theory of Philippe Hatt
Nigel and Jones— IMHO Hatt’s theory of the nature of particles with mass and electrical/magnetic properties is correct. His predictions are consistent with existing experimental evidence and go way beyond the accuracy of existing measurement technology to be confirmed as this technology improves. The theory of A.C. Jessup is quite close to Hatt’s massification model . These two free thinkers may be considered by the Nobel folks henceforth as Jones suggests. Bob Cook From: JonesBeene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:37 AM To: Vortex List<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: [Vo]:Grand theory of Philippe Hatt This theory will not appeal to everyone but it has attractive features which “tend to grow on you”. Thumbs up from me. http://philippehatt.com/ http://philippehatt.com/document1.pdf The author (like Peter Gluck and Cervantes) is quite fond of, and skilled at neology – making-up new English words – which some find annoying. The author (like Einstein) finds that the precision and simplicity of the basic Universal dynamic (massification/demassification) points to a kind of superior intelligence – which some find annoying Not me, in fact with a little editing this could be made into grand literature - of some arcane but enjoyable genre… “beyond hard sci-fi” or… it could win the Nobel if correct. Take your pick. Apparently this thinking is not new, and others have already borrowed heavily from it. It was presented at Sochi recently, mainly for Russians, but the author’s name was misspelled. Not that anyone noticed…
Re: [Vo]:Grand theory of Philippe Hatt
As you already know, I find this sort of work fascinating. The hope is that looking at the data in a different way might result in seeing some connection that has been missed when we just look at the standard model and which might in turn inform our understanding of the standard model. What is intriguing is how little quarks figure in the document, the only bit being when Phillip looks at the three generations of quarks. The basis for the three generations of matter is particularly poorly understood, so if this approach provides an insight then that would be useful. On an initial skim through I have not spotted any obvious leads Nigel On 05/10/2017 15:37, JonesBeene wrote: This theory will not appeal to everyone but it has attractive features which “tend to grow on you”. Thumbs up from me. http://philippehatt.com/ http://philippehatt.com/document1.pdf The author (like Peter Gluck and Cervantes) is quite fond of, and skilled at neology – making-up new English words – which some find annoying. The author (like Einstein) finds that the precision and simplicity of the basic Universal dynamic (massification/demassification) points to a kind of superior intelligence – which some find annoying Not me, in fact with a little editing this could be made into grand literature - of some arcane but enjoyable genre… “beyond hard sci-fi” or… it could win the Nobel if correct. Take your pick. Apparently this thinking is not new, and others have already borrowed heavily from it. It was presented at Sochi recently, mainly for Russians, but the author’s name was misspelled. Not that anyone noticed…
[Vo]:Grand theory of Philippe Hatt
This theory will not appeal to everyone but it has attractive features which “tend to grow on you”. Thumbs up from me. http://philippehatt.com/ http://philippehatt.com/document1.pdf The author (like Peter Gluck and Cervantes) is quite fond of, and skilled at neology – making-up new English words – which some find annoying. The author (like Einstein) finds that the precision and simplicity of the basic Universal dynamic (massification/demassification) points to a kind of superior intelligence – which some find annoying Not me, in fact with a little editing this could be made into grand literature - of some arcane but enjoyable genre… “beyond hard sci-fi” or… it could win the Nobel if correct. Take your pick. Apparently this thinking is not new, and others have already borrowed heavily from it. It was presented at Sochi recently, mainly for Russians, but the author’s name was misspelled. Not that anyone noticed…
