Re: [Vo]:Indian Summer

[Andrew Meulenberg]

The term "Indian Summer" may come from the American Indians apparent
indifference to cold weather. In historical novels, one can find reference
to this, where the Indians would wonder why the white men would bundle up,
just because there was snow on the ground.

In graduate school, I had a girlfriend whose family had just moved back
from a 2 year tour in Thule (north-west Greenland, ... a tundra
 climate
 (ET
) with
long, severely cold winters lasting most of the year and short and cool
summers.). She would walk across Campus (in Tennessee) during a snow-storm
in just a short-sleeve summer dress. We are more adaptable than we think!

Andrew
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On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 8:27 PM MSF  wrote:

>
>
> On Thursday, September 19th, 2024 at 12:09 PM, Robin <
> mixent...@aussiebroadband.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > In the US, you sometimes get an "Indian Summer" around this time of
> year. So do we in Australia.
> > That's strange because the seasons here are reversed.
> > IOW it happens to the whole planet at the same time of year. What
> happens on an annual basis? We go around the Sun. So
> > maybe there is a particular spot on the Sun that radiates more than
> elsewhere, and we just go past it around this time
> > of year?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Robin van Spaandonk
> >
>
>
> Hello, Robin
>
> Unless I'm misinterpreting, you are saying that your "Indian Summer"
> happens in the Australian spring in order to be simultaneous with the
> American equivalent in the autumn.
>
> The sun itself rotates at approximately once every 30 days, depending on
> the solar latitude. So there is no hot spot to be exposed toward the earth
> at any given time. Indian summer is a cultural interpretation of nice warm
> weather in the autumn. Why it should be associated with native Americans
> I'm not sure.
>
> M.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Indian Summer

[Robin]

In reply to  MSF's message of Fri, 20 Sep 2024 01:21:46 +:
Hi,
[snip]
>Hello, Robin
>
>Unless I'm misinterpreting, you are saying that your "Indian Summer" happens 
>in the Australian spring in order to be simultaneous with the American 
>equivalent in the autumn.

Correct. At the end of Winter we get a sudden warm period, then it gets colder 
again, sometimes right up till Christmas
(which of course is in Summer for us.)

>
>The sun itself rotates at approximately once every 30 days, depending on the 
>solar latitude. So there is no hot spot to be exposed toward the earth at any 
>given time.

This is a good point, however surface rotation may not be the whole story. 
Suppose that there is a deeper lying hot spot
that doesn't rotate?

> Indian summer is a cultural interpretation of nice warm weather in the 
> autumn. Why it should be associated with native Americans I'm not sure.
>
>M.

Alternative suggestions as to why this time of year is warmer, are welcome. ;)

(Initially I thought it might be due to perihelion, but this happens in 
January.)
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

Drive your electric car every second day and recharge it from solar panels on 
your roof on the alternate days.
The other days, drive your spouses car, and do the same with it.
"Charge when the Sun shines".

Re: [Vo]:Indian Summer

[MSF]

On Thursday, September 19th, 2024 at 12:09 PM, Robin 
 wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> In the US, you sometimes get an "Indian Summer" around this time of year. So 
> do we in Australia.
> That's strange because the seasons here are reversed.
> IOW it happens to the whole planet at the same time of year. What happens on 
> an annual basis? We go around the Sun. So
> maybe there is a particular spot on the Sun that radiates more than 
> elsewhere, and we just go past it around this time
> of year?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Robin van Spaandonk
> 


Hello, Robin

Unless I'm misinterpreting, you are saying that your "Indian Summer" happens in 
the Australian spring in order to be simultaneous with the American equivalent 
in the autumn.

The sun itself rotates at approximately once every 30 days, depending on the 
solar latitude. So there is no hot spot to be exposed toward the earth at any 
given time. Indian summer is a cultural interpretation of nice warm weather in 
the autumn. Why it should be associated with native Americans I'm not sure.

M.

[Vo]:Indian Summer

[Robin]

Hi,

In the US, you sometimes get an "Indian Summer" around this time of year. So do 
we in Australia.
That's strange because the seasons here are reversed.
IOW it happens to the whole planet at the same time of year. What happens on an 
annual basis? We go around the Sun. So
maybe there is a particular spot on the Sun that radiates more than elsewhere, 
and we just go past it around this time
of year?

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

Drive your electric car every second day and recharge it from solar panels on 
your roof on the alternate days.
The other days, drive your spouses car, and do the same with it.
"Charge when the Sun shines".