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2016-09-25 Thread Bob Higgins
igg...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2016 3:13 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:New Record Low Solar Price in > Abu Dhabi – Costs Plunging Faster Than Expected > > From their video, it looks like they were trying to find a

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2016-09-24 Thread Bob Cook
<rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 3:13 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:New Record Low Solar Price in Abu Dhabi – Costs Plunging Faster Than Expected >From their video, it looks like they were trying to find a way to eliminate

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2016-09-24 Thread Bob Cook
one...@pacbell.net> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 1:32 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:New Record Low Solar Price in Abu Dhabi – Costs Plunging Faster Than Expected Terry, They seem to contradict themselves: elsewhere they claim “the Efficoat tech

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2016-09-24 Thread Bob Cook
:45 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:New Record Low Solar Price in Abu Dhabi – Costs Plunging Faster Than Expected It looks like an interesting technology. However, the real metric is not in panel efficiency or system efficiency, it is total$/kWh. This has to i

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2016-09-22 Thread Bob Higgins
>From their video, it looks like they were trying to find a way to eliminate electron recombination in the silicon lattice to improve efficiency. They may be planning to do that with fields created with the pyroelectric films. Since the typical delta T from front to back in the panel is 26C,

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2016-09-22 Thread Jones Beene
Stephen, I’m not sure the E field is static. It could look more like electronic noise. The inventor – Kumar - also has other patent apps which indicate the way he is going. 20150108851 Photovoltaic systems with shaped high frequency electric pulses At least one photovoltaic (PV) cell

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2016-09-22 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Sounds sort of reasonable. But something comes to mind -- the E field they apply, as described, doesn't do any work, as far as I can tell. It /just/ biases the cell. IOW it's a static E field. In particular, since there's no path for the charge to leave the "plates" (front and back

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2016-09-22 Thread Jones Beene
Here is the patent application – or one of them https://www.google.com/patents/US20120216847 Abstract A method to increase the efficiency of a solar cell comprises applying one of a transparent pyroelectric film and a plurality of films in a stack on a front surface of the solar cell

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2016-09-22 Thread Jones Beene
Terry, They seem to contradict themselves: elsewhere they claim “the Efficoat technology” provides 15-20% improvement in power production from ordinary solar panels over the course of a typical day.” This would lead one to believe that the panels are coated. If the coating is not on

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2016-09-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > > This brings to mind a local company (SF Bay) with an add-on product for solar cells which they claim increases the power and efficiency. The technology uses a pyroelectric coating for the cells and a feedback mechanism.

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2016-09-22 Thread Bob Higgins
It looks like an interesting technology. However, the real metric is not in panel efficiency or system efficiency, it is total$/kWh. This has to include the longevity of the panel. The total cost/kWh over the life of the panel is its installed cost (+maintenance costs) amortized over the life

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2016-09-22 Thread Jones Beene
This brings to mind a local company (SF Bay) with an add-on product for solar cells which they claim increases the power and efficiency. The technology uses a pyroelectric coating for the cells and a feedback mechanism. The company is UltraSolar. It has been mentioned before here, but it may

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2016-09-21 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
http://rameznaam.com/2016/09/21/new-record-low-solar-price-in-abu-dhabi-costs-plunging-faster-than-expected/