Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Here's something I found interesting in the lawsuit. During the test, IH had hired two people to monitor the test, and they were kept well informed of its progress. I wonder if they signed the document, as well? "67. During the Guaranteed Performance Test period, IH and/or IPH engaged and

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

And the winner is Jone Beene!! "I have recently re-read the Pinon report, which is an absolute mockery of the scientific system, and if Pinon turns out to be the ERV, then we are in the early stages of a gigantic lawsuit. " Craig On 03/31/2016 08:54 PM, Jones Beene wrote: I have

RE: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Good post, Eric. I agree with your conclusions. Krivit may be right but he has no inside info on IH and is, like you say, basing his opinion on prior personal animus. Ahern is an excellent scientist – but outspoken. He is far from senile except in his lack of proper editorial precision, or

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Jones Beene wrote: >> >> However, he sees Rossi as fraud, who is on the verge of being abandoned >> by his backer, Industrial Heat – due to a dishonest report which they >> cannot get behind. >> >

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Jones Beene wrote: > Two typos in previous message > > > > It is Penon, not Pinon … > Fabio Penon. I assume this is the report Jones refers to: http://coldfusionnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/105322688-Penon4-1.pdf - Jed

RE: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Two typos in previous message It is Penon, not Pinon … And the Lugano report was definitely not the last milestone but possibly the next to last further down. From: Jones Beene Look at the big picture. It should be noted that most technology transfer contracts like the

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Craig Haynie wrote: I just don't see how it's possible for Rossi to provide 'proof'. No one is > going to believe this report. > That is not true. Lots of people will believe a good report. Heck, I am scheduled to give a lecture in Stockholm if it is a good report. I

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Jones Beene wrote: > Read Tom Clarke or Bob Higgin’s appraisal of Lugano. There was nothing > there out of the noise, according to Clarke. > I agree Lugano was a bust, but as I said before, the first set of tests were pretty good. See:

RE: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Look at the big picture. It should be noted that most technology transfer contracts like the one between AR and IH are definitely NOT based on a one-time cash transfers of millions of dollars up front – especially when there is no tangible product at hand and the IP portfolio is a joke.

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

I just don't see how it's possible for Rossi to provide 'proof'. No one is going to believe this report. They're not going to trust the examiner. They're not going to trust the process by which he was chosen. They'll question his conflict of interest. They're probably not going to know exactly

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Ian Walker wrote: I think it can be reasonable argued that the target was Krivit, as Krivit > himself admits he sent one of his missives where he said he was going to > write a report stating Rossi and IH had split so what was their comment. > I do not see how this

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Craig Haynie wrote: To be a little more clear, I don't think Rossi is going to provide any > proof for anyone, other than his investors . . . He said he would! Mats Lewan is counting on him to provide proof. Otherwise he will have to cancel his symposium. Anyway, I

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Hi all In reply to Jed Rothwell On the matter of who was the target of the March 10 statement by I.H. I think it can be reasonable argued that the target was Krivit, as Krivit himself admits he sent one of his missives where he said he was going to write a report stating Rossi and IH had split

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Jones Beene wrote: > > However, he sees Rossi as fraud, who is on the verge of being abandoned > by his backer, Industrial Heat – due to a dishonest report which they > cannot get behind. > That I agree with. I think the March 10 statement by I.H. repudiated Rossi's report in

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

To be a little more clear, I don't think Rossi is going to provide any proof for anyone, other than his investors -- assuming he does indeed have something. This report is probably an engineering report. What he needs to know before selling these expensive machines, is the knowledge that they

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Skepticism is a good thing but Jones seems biased against Rossi. The proof that the E-Cat works is stronger than that it doesn't. Both Industrial Heat and Woodford Equity have done due diligence before investing money, something that legal consequences if its false. In my opinion Jones

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Hi all If this letter is real then: For any scientist to prejudge results as Ahern just apparently has, inevitably means bias. Given the nature of this open letter one must of course consider whether Ahern has had ulterior motives in approaching experimentalists and replicaters to offer his

RE: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Craig, Mills has been planning to "get to market sometime next year" for the last 20 years. Yawn. I hope he does, but there is not proof that he can do it. Sure, if Rossi gets to market first - fine ... no one can argue with that ... but as of now, there is nothing but hollow promises and the

RE: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

From: Russ George * Clearly Rossi has released more than sufficient for those skilled in the art to reproduce his work(s) and the anomalous heat. LOL - Not on this planet. Except for Parkhomov/Sochi, there is nothing that approaches scientific replication of Rossi, and nothing from

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Russ George wrote: Clearly Rossi has released more than sufficient for those skilled in the > art to reproduce his work(s) and the anomalous heat. > Who has replicated it? I do not know of any credible replications yet. Zhang seems to be the best so far:

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Rossi has released a lot more than Mills, and they both seem to be on similar paths. Like Rossi, Mills is planning to start selling next year. If Rossi starts selling, that will be all the proof he needs. Craig

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

​I read this Ahern complaint. I decided that it did not even deserved a response. As it seems others are thinking different I will say the following: 1. It is darn judgmental to make statements about ​Rossi being a convict. First of all I think it is not true, more important it had nothing to do

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Jones Beene wrote: Wait a minute. What is the need for a secret, when there is no scientific > proof of an anomaly? I have seen no proof from Rossi, have you? > That seems illogical. Two problems: 1. There might be scientific proof of an anomaly, so in that case there is

RE: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

virtually any pioneer technologist at this stage of the game. From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern Wait a minute. What is the need for a secret, when there is no scientific

RE: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Wait a minute. What is the need for a secret, when there is no scientific proof of an anomaly? I have seen no proof from Rossi, have you? Let Rossi prove through an independent third party that there is a valid thermal anomaly in the E-Cat, then Ahern can be criticized for complaining

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

I wrote: > 2. You said "his suggestion of delaying the release until Stockholm . . ." > I guess you mean Rossi made this suggestion. Where did you hear that? Did > Peter report that? That is distressing. > Mats Lewan said he has not heard anything like this from Rossi. I have not heard back

RE: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:50 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern Here is my response to the letter. Brian, Regarding the letter you asked Peter to circulate -- 1. (I pointed out spelling errors, now fixed. Except this one

Re: [Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Here is my response to the letter. Brian, Regarding the letter you asked Peter to circulate -- 1. (I pointed out spelling errors, now fixed. Except this one: ". . . for why the wasted . . . SHOULD BE: for why *they* wasted.) 2. You said "his suggestion of delaying the release until Stockholm .

[Vo]:Open Letter from Brian Ahern

Dr. Brian Ahern is no skeptic of LENR. In fact he has verified Arata/Zhang and reported anomalous thermal gain in several important experiments. However, he sees Rossi as fraud, who is on the verge of being abandoned by his backer, Industrial Heat - due to a dishonest report which they cannot get