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Was it found in Penn. or NM? The Naval Air Development Center (NADC), was an old aircraft factory in Johnsville PA turned into an R&D facility (according to Wiki). Now closed. They were probably testing early catalytic converters for use in vessels where carbon monoxide was a threat. It could easily be 70 years old and of different (i.e. triangular channel) construction whereas modern converters are rectangular. Hope you did not pay much for it Frank, but the good news it will contain some precious metals - palladium, platinum etc. If not then it is more of mystery. Stealing converters has become a major criminal activity out here in CA as some of them have hundred of dollars worth of precious metals, the older the better. No questions asked. Hi Jones, Good point. I looked at some scap metals web pages to see the inside details of some of the older cataytic converters, and their Platinum channels look similar... as you pointed out, but there are some differences. All the catalytic converters that I saw there had square channels of platinum. But Frank's channels were triangular. <><><> <><><>And Frank's parts he described as Ceramic. Could they be carbon or graphite? Because he said one of them looked burnt or charred on one side. Maybe it came from the cleanup crew army vehicle. Is it possible the very first catalytic converters were built that way- with a ceramic?Maybe it was some kind of early heat exchanger... or perhaps it was of extraterrestrial origin. It needs some testing. Colin - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 5:48 PM Subject: Re [Vo]:Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site Good thing for us tree huggers that those aliens used catalytic converters on their UFOs ... ;-) Takes a lot of fuel to get here from Proxima Centauri b and that is a big no-no Actually (before someone brings up the point) - the catalytic converter was indeed invented before the Roswell incident. Here is the inventor. https://www.sciencehistory.org/historical-profile/eugene-houdry This is not to suggest that the artifact isn't of extraterrestrial origin... Colin Quinney wrote Hello Frank, (Long time...) Thank you for bringing that to our attention. That is truly fascinating. What is the story behind the acquisition? Has the material been lab tested? Type of ceramic, atomic structure, etc? (I wish my late friend Nick Reiter was still alive. He would love to test it.) Have you or anyone else applied any kind of high voltage, or electromagnetic energy while weighing the samples? - Original Message - From: Frank Znidarsic Subject: Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site I had a chance to get my hands on the debris. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/images/roswell.jpg Frank Znidarsic
Re: Re [Vo]:Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site
Hi Jones, Good point. I looked at some scap metals web pages to see the inside details of some of the older cataytic converters, and their Platinum channels look similar... as you pointed out, but there are some differences. All the catalytic converters that I saw there had square channels of platinum. But Frank's channels were triangular. <><><> <><><> And Frank's parts he described as Ceramic. Could they be carbon or graphite? Because he said one of them looked burnt or charred on one side. Maybe it came from the cleanup crew army vehicle. Is it possible the very first catalytic converters were built that way- with a ceramic? Maybe it was some kind of early heat exchanger... or perhaps it was of extraterrestrial origin. It needs some testing. Colin - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 5:48 PM Subject: Re [Vo]:Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site Good thing for us tree huggers that those aliens used catalytic converters on their UFOs ... ;-) Takes a lot of fuel to get here from Proxima Centauri b and that is a big no-no Actually (before someone brings up the point) - the catalytic converter was indeed invented before the Roswell incident. Here is the inventor. https://www.sciencehistory.org/historical-profile/eugene-houdry This is not to suggest that the artifact isn't of extraterrestrial origin... Colin Quinney wrote Hello Frank, (Long time...) Thank you for bringing that to our attention. That is truly fascinating. What is the story behind the acquisition? Has the material been lab tested? Type of ceramic, atomic structure, etc? (I wish my late friend Nick Reiter was still alive. He would love to test it.) Have you or anyone else applied any kind of high voltage, or electromagnetic energy while weighing the samples? - Original Message - From: Frank Znidarsic Subject: Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site I had a chance to get my hands on the debris. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/images/roswell.jpg Frank Znidarsic
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Thank you Jones. The part does look like a titanium oxide catalytic converter. I hope that I have not been duped.
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This is not to suggest that the artifact isn't of extraterrestrial origin... I dont know it is of extraterrestrial origin. It was collected by an army man on the cleanup crew who was attached to the Johnsville Navel station. A friend of mine recently inherited it. Frank
Re: Re [Vo]:Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:48 PM Jones Beene wrote: > > This is not to suggest that the artifact isn't of extraterrestrial > origin... > Thanks, Jones...I didn't want to say anything; but, it did look awfully familiar...not at all like Art's Parts. 😉
Re [Vo]:Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site
Good thing for us tree huggers that those aliens used catalytic converters on their UFOs ... ;-) Takes a lot of fuel to get here from Proxima Centauri b and that is a big no-no Actually (before someone brings up the point) - the catalytic converter was indeed invented before the Roswell incident. Here is the inventor. https://www.sciencehistory.org/historical-profile/eugene-houdry This is not to suggest that the artifact isn't of extraterrestrial origin... Colin Quinney wrote Hello Frank, (Long time...) Thank you for bringing that to our attention. That is truly fascinating. What is the story behind the acquisition? Has the material been lab tested? Type of ceramic, atomic structure, etc? (I wish my late friend Nick Reiter was still alive. He would love to test it.) Have you or anyone else applied any kind of high voltage, or electromagnetic energy while weighing the samples? - Original Message - From: Frank Znidarsic Subject: Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site I had a chance to get my hands on the debris. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/images/roswell.jpg Frank Znidarsic
Re: [Vo]:Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site
Hello Frank, (Long time...) Thank you for bringing that to our attention. That is truly fascinating. What is the story behind the acquisition? Has the material been lab tested? Type of ceramic, atomic structure, etc? (I wish my late friend Nick Reiter was still alive. He would love to test it.) Have you or anyone else applied any kind of high voltage, or electromagnetic energy while weighing the samples? Best Regards, Colin Quinney cc: Don Mitchell - Original Message - From: Frank Znidarsic To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 8:27 PM Subject: [Vo]:Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site Subject: Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site I had a chance to get my hands on the debris. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/images/roswell.jpg Frank Znidarsic
[Vo]:Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site
Subject: Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site I had a chance to get my hands on the debris. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/images/roswell.jpg Frank Znidarsic
[Vo]:Pictures of debris from the Roswell Crash Site
I had a chance to get my hands on the debris. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/images/roswell.jpg Frank Znidarsic
