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...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 7:39 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com<mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>> wrote: My background is libertarian but I now feel some form of com

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

These think tanks more or less exposes the same type of thing. But, let me show some good sources from "my side", these people more or less exposes the same type of thing https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/ https://critiqueofcrisistheory.wordpress.com/

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Daniel, ps. I came across this piece after my last post that covers soe of the points I made. http://mailchi.mp/epi/news-from-the-economic-policy-institute-74f85odszg?e=803fbad814

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> From: Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com> > To: John Milstone <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Sat, Oct 14, 2017 11:35 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers. > > Adrian, > > It's a matter of perspective of to works for who and to whom. In my > pe

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com> Sent: Sat, Oct 14, 2017 11:35 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers. Adrian, It's a matter of perspective of to works for who and to whom. In my perspective, capitalism has been tried and never worked. Socialism (I reserve communism for something else, utopic) always w

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Adrian, It's a matter of perspective of to works for who and to whom. In my perspective, capitalism has been tried and never worked. Socialism (I reserve communism for something else, utopic) always worked better on average for most individuals, within my parameters. I didn't see it not working

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skimo.com> Sent: Sat, Oct 14, 2017 6:53 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers. Adrian, I am talking about the whole world. The rot began in in a few places, in antiquity, when class society began. That is, ony part of the population got the best slice of the pie. It's difficult for som

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Adrian, I am talking about the whole world. The rot began in in a few places, in antiquity, when class society began. That is, ony part of the population got the best slice of the pie. It's difficult for some of us who live in the 1st world (I live in the 3rd) and never saw what it is abject

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Interestingthread. I disagree violence is inevitablefor the change but with the millionaire’s club called Congress running thingsit seems likely. The rot startedwith Milton Freedman in 1976, stating that the purpose of business was tomaximize short term profit for the shareholders. Business

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Alain, when I tried to get into detail with Jed, the subject had already changed, at least in my mind. But, implementing AI, for me,is one capable of understanding contexts, is different from any type of technology we know it. It is not a mere aide to human skills, this time is really erasing the

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people who says industrialisation lead to poverty, don't know how deeply poor were farmers, most of the population, befre they decided to escape starvation by working hard in factories, in awful but less awful situation. Just my dad in the 50s at 20yo lost half of his friends because of diseases,

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Jed, I did not say that something is narrow, only. I said that there is an accumulation of narrow techniques that accumulate. We, humans, along many animals, do have many of these mechanisms of patter recognition, such as overall syntax, face identification, sexual orientation, some sense of

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Daniel Rocha wrote: I am aware of these tidbits. But,Language is mechanical and have universal > rules that are quite strict.If you feed it with massive quantities of data, > it will eventually get it right . . . > I disagree. Google was not making much progress with that

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On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > The point it is that, as far as I can notice here, there is no such > notion. You are telling them stuff without explaining what you mean. You > seem to be a lunatic or a fanatic for them. > What reformists and the

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The point it is that, as far as I can notice here, there is no such notion. You are telling them stuff without explaining what you mean. You seem to be a lunatic or a fanatic for them. You are talking about a game they don't know, you don't explain the rules at all, that is, how you reached such

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On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > it seems some histocical perspective is required to understand all is > normal. > > Inflation is a recent phénomenon, and for example 19th century was veru > deflationist. > What are you talking about. Inflation was

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gt; *From:* Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 5:57 AM > *To:* John Milstone <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers. > > > > I guess you are being ultra left here. The guy is showing will to learn &g

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On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 12:03 PM, H LV wrote: > If you want to change society you have to work with people as they are, > not as you wish they were. > > > Harry > Says a man who's clearly never been in any leadership position of any kind; let alone who understands the way

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On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:25 AM, H LV wrote: > Pure Marxism is a materialist religion and not a science. > > harry > It never ceases to amaze me how (otherwise fairly intelligent) people can maintain these long-term internal states of cognitive dissonance. The wunnerful

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On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > I guess you are being ultra left here. The guy is showing will to learn > and you are kind of snubbing him. > No, that's just what people 'improving' marxism -- i.e. reformist radicals (an oxymoron, no?) -- invariably

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I am aware of these tidbits. But,Language is mechanical and have universal rules that are quite strict.If you feed it with massive quantities of data, it will eventually get it right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example-based_machine_translation . It can be seen here an example:

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Daniel Rocha wrote: > There isn't,though, any meaningful advance in AI for decades. What happens > is the massive feed of data for very repetitive tasks in a very narrow > field of expertise. > Your information is out of date. It is true there was little progress for

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Neither AI nor robots are a problem at all, the trouble is the transition. As the transition happens, people are not happily lose their jobs neither owners of large business will be able to sustain profits, this is unsolvable contradiction (that is, not solvable without violence). Unlike other

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it seems some histocical perspective is required to understand all is normal. Inflation is a recent phénomenon, and for example 19th century was veru deflationist. in fact it is not so important as purchase power get better because of cost reduction. This si what sharing economy, in fact the

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Things are not so simple, as I see it. I don't see the actual China as socialist or communist, nor I see them returning to a socialist path. This will become clear later, though this is a very very rough explanation. Things do not really get cheap because they are more abundantly produced (now I

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Milstone <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers. I guess you are being ultra left here. The guy is showing will to learn and you are kind of snubbing him. 2017-10-13 3:29 GMT-03:00 Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com<mailto:comandantegri...@gmail.com>&g

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If you want to change society you have to work with people as they are, not as you wish they were. Harry On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:25 AM, H LV wrote: > Pure Marxism is a materialist religion and not a science. > > harry > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:01 AM, H LV

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Pure Marxism is a materialist religion and not a science. harry On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:01 AM, H LV wrote: > Yawn. > > Harry > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:29 AM, Che wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:35 PM, H LV

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Yawn. Harry On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:29 AM, Che wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:35 PM, H LV wrote: > >> ​The Precariat and Class Struggle By Guy Standing >> >> Abstract: The world economy is in the midst of a Global Transformation >>

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I guess you are being ultra left here. The guy is showing will to learn and you are kind of snubbing him. 2017-10-13 3:29 GMT-03:00 Che : > > > This is just (yawn) one more fake 'post-marxist' analysis (of which there > has been plenty: 'Post Modernism' being the

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On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:35 PM, H LV wrote: > ​The Precariat and Class Struggle By Guy Standing > > Abstract: The world economy is in the midst of a Global Transformation > that is producing a new global class structure. A new mass class is > emerging – the precariat –

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This is over optimism based on the moderate success of translation of non creative writing.Most science and news reports, is very mechanical. We are born with mechanism that universally holds for every language, in terms of organizing adjectives, substantives, agreements. What the machine does is

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​The Precariat and Class Struggle By Guy Standing Abstract: The world economy is in the midst of a Global Transformation that is producing a new global class structure. A new mass class is emerging – the precariat – characterised by chronic uncertainty and insecurity. Although the precariat is

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On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:06 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > https://thenextweb.com/contributors/2017/05/19/ > artificial-intelligence-will-impact-professional-writing/ > > How Artificial Intelligence will impact professional writing > As I keep pointing out: such technological

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https://thenextweb.com/contributors/2017/05/19/artificial-intelligence-will-impact-professional-writing/ How Artificial Intelligence will impact professional writing On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > http://nypost.com/2017/08/29/artificial-intelligence-is-

[Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

http://nypost.com/2017/08/29/artificial-intelligence-is-writing-the-next-game-of-thrones-book/ Artificial intelligence is writing the next ‘Game of Thrones’ book