I just viewed Rossi's demo. He is the first to come to market with a
commercial cold fusion product. That is something. I has to work.
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From: Mats Lewan
To: vortex-l
Sent: Thu, Jan 24, 2019 7:04 pm
Subject: [Vo]:Rossi's theory
Here’s the first publication
Here’s the first publication of Rossi’s theory for the process in the E-Cat:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
Kind Regards,
Mats
Mats Lewan, Speaker, Moderator, Author, Journalist – technology and future.
www.matslewan.se
Rossi's theory
The paper presented by Carl-Oscar Gullstrom has now been published on the
Journal of Nuclear Physics here:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Working%
20with%20theory%20about%20the%20Rossi%20Effect.pdf
The presentation of Carl-Oscar Gullstrom at the November 24 E-Cat
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Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction - LiHy4-.pdf
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:58:59 +1000:
Hi,
[snip]
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Sat, 18 Jul 2015 19:57:12 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
There is very little Li7 in the ash, so
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction -
LiHy4-.pdf
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:58:59
+1000:
Hi,
[snip]
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Sat, 18 Jul 2015 19:57:12 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
There is very
The problem I have with this analysis is that in the Lugano reaction, whose
fuel/ash analyses are the basis of the hypothesis, the Ni seemed to have
been largely converted to 62Ni and the Li converted almost completely to
6Li; yet in the experiment, the excess heat showed no signs of abatement.
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
It appeared that the reaction heat continued even though the fuel had been
converted to 6Li and 62Ni. How is this explained in your theory?
Some thoughts here:
- It's an open question as to whether and how much
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 17 Jul 2015 22:39:48 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
In that detection method, Lithium ions cannot remain without electrons
through an acid bath.
Take another look at the binding energy of the new particle. (See the last
column in the table at the bottom of the pdf
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Sat, 18 Jul 2015 08:34:52 -0600:
Hi,
The problem I have with this analysis is that in the Lugano reaction, whose
fuel/ash analyses are the basis of the hypothesis, the Ni seemed to have
been largely converted to 62Ni and the Li converted almost completely to
I wrote:
If there's neutron stripping along the lines of 7Li → 6Li, giving rise to
58Ni → ... → 62Ni, this process might not be the only neutron stripping one
going on, and perhaps not even the primary one.
There is a further problem with explaining the excess heat in the Lugano test
as
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:58:59 +1000:
Hi,
[snip]
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Sat, 18 Jul 2015 19:57:12 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
There is very little Li7 in the ash, so the high masses based on Li7 might be
below the detection threshold.
The values for Li
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 18 Jul 2015 20:15:31 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
What Is not clear in common sense terms... if the fuel has more lithium than
the ash, why does the fuel need to wait to be loaded into the reactor for the
reaction to take hold. placing some nickel powder into
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sun, 19 Jul 2015 08:25:08 +1000:
Hi,
[snip]
resistant to temperatures up to half a million degrees Kelvin. An acid bath is
just going to wash them nice and clean, if there are any left. ;)
Actually I may be wrong about this. It may be possible for the
If a lithium atom were to replace 1-3 electrons with hydrinohydrides as a
stable molecule, this surely would show up in the SIMS of the fuel in the
Lugano report. SIMS measures mass and you would see a spectrum of
6Li+(1,2,3) and 7Li+(1,2,3), or m/z=8,9,10 should show up and they don't.
A
What Is not clear in common sense terms... if the fuel has more lithium
than the ash, why does the fuel need to wait to be loaded into the reactor
for the reaction to take hold. placing some nickel powder into lithium
should get te reaction going if reaction is all up to hydrinos.
On Sat, Jul 18,
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Sat, 18 Jul 2015 19:57:12 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
There is very little Li7 in the ash, so the high masses based on Li7 might be
below the detection threshold.
The values for Li + 3 hydrinos can indeed be ruled out as you suggest.
That leaves Li6 + 1 or Li6 + 2 with
In that detection method, Lithium ions cannot remain without electrons
through an acid bath. The lithium ions will have been completly
neutralized. The detection method will detect lithium as the results of the
method have proven. Your assertion does not make sense. The analysts would
not use a
If the Ni62 reaction is based on Li, and the nickel is completely converted
to Ni62, then the particle should be complettely saturated with lithium on
an atom for atom basis.
But the percentage of lithium was reduced from 1.17% as fuel, to 0.03% as
shown on the last page of the Lugano report.
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 17 Jul 2015 19:21:04 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
But how did the lithium get inside and at the center of the nickel
particle. A few post ago you invented a new type of neutral particle do do
that.
The neutral particle is a triangle of Hydrinohydride ions (each with
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 17 Jul 2015 21:12:56 -0400:
Hi,
1) Lithium could get out the same way it got in.
2) ICP-AES relies on electron spectra, but the particles I'm talking about have
no more electrons in normal orbitals, so the Li will not show up in the
analysis. If
But how did the lithium get inside and at the center of the nickel
particle. A few post ago you invented a new type of neutral particle do do
that.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:05 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 17 Jul 2015 01:17:15 -0400:
Hi,
How does your
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 17 Jul 2015 01:17:15 -0400:
Hi,
How does your wonder particle stop at neutron formation just at Ni62?
[snip]
I previously posted the following to Vortex on Oct. 9 2014, but can't get the
archive to show me posts for 2014.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Your point is if the experimental result does not fit the theory, then
ignore or discount the experimental result. This sounds just like the
process that the naysayes use to ignore LENR.
My point is that the experiment was
How does your wonder particle stop at neutron formation just at Ni62?
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 5:59 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jul 2015 01:20:56 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
What keeps this particle from interacting with the atoms on the outer
region of
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jul 2015 01:20:56 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
What keeps this particle from interacting with the atoms on the outer
region of the nickel particle more than the inner section of the nickel
particle? More Ni64 should have been found on the outside of the particle
Where do the neutrons come from?
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:01 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 15 Jul 2015 20:27:49 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
How do these theories explain a 100 micro nickel particle that is almost
pure Ni62? The key to the correct LENR theory
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
How does the center of the nickel particle get their share of neutrons that
hardly move, that is neutrons with no energy,
IIRC, we don't know enough to say the nickel particle was 7Li throughout.
I'm also open to the
What keeps this particle from interacting with the atoms on the outer
region of the nickel particle more than the inner section of the nickel
particle? More Ni64 should have been found on the outside of the particle
and more Ni58 should have been fount at the center of the particle.
On Wed, Jul
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 15 Jul 2015 20:27:49 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
How do these theories explain a 100 micro nickel particle that is almost
pure Ni62? The key to the correct LENR theory is through an explanation of
that particle.
I already provided a possible explanation of that with
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 15 Jul 2015 22:04:10 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Where do the neutrons come from?
Li7.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:01 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 15 Jul 2015 20:27:49 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
How do these theories explain a
Your point is if the experimental result does not fit the theory, then
ignore or discount the experimental result. This sounds just like the
process that the naysayes use to ignore LENR.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:18 PM,
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 15 Jul 2015 22:19:35 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
So the neutrons reside on the surface of the Nickel particle. How do they
get into the middle of the nickel particle?
The Lithium is combined with Hydrinos to make either a small neutral particle,
or as a negative ion
How does the center of the nickel particle get their share of neutrons that
hardly move, that is neutrons with no energy,
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
How do these theories
So the neutrons reside on the surface of the Nickel particle. How do they
get into the middle of the nickel particle?
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:15 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 15 Jul 2015 22:04:10 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Where do the neutrons come from?
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
How do these theories explain a 100 micro nickel particle that is almost
pure Ni62? The key to the correct LENR theory is through an explanation of
that particle.
I personally like Robin's 7Li neutron transfer explanation in
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 15 Jul 2015 08:25:50 -0500:
Hi Eric,
I realize what you meant, but during normal decay reactions, the energy is not
shared with an ensemble of electrons, so why would this case be special?
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:40 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
If
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:24 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
I realize what you meant, but during normal decay reactions, the energy is
not shared with an ensemble of electrons, so why would this case be special?
I'm not really sure. There's just enough of doubt on my part about the
How do these theories explain a 100 micro nickel particle that is almost
pure Ni62? The key to the correct LENR theory is through an explanation of
that particle.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:24 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:40 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
If the ensemble is large,
even a reaction with 20+ MeV can be quickly and quietly dissipated in the
production of x-rays. If this happened, the daughter alpha itself might
have little to no kinetic energy.
[snip]
I see no reason
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 13 Jul 2015 21:37:01 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Some reactions that produce alphas will also normally be accompanied by the
emission of a gamma (but not all reactions). In the case of otherwise
gamma-emitting reactions, it's possible that the reaction energy is
From the Lugano report, the view of the nickel particle retrived as ash
after 32 days of reaction looks identical to the fuel particle which itself
looks like it came out of a old reactor run. The nanostructed surface looks
prestine. This particle surface would have shown alpha impact in the
Correction...
From the Lugano report, the view of the nickel particle retrived as ash
after 32 days of reaction looks identical to the fuel particle which itself
looks like it came out of a old reactor run. The nanostructed surface looks
prestine. This particle surface would have shown alpha
:34 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction
Regarding: ... the E-Cat is a massive source of alpha particles
I have not seen this confirmed as an experimental observation. I understand
that this statement has its origins in the theory proposed from N. Cook. I find
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Regarding: ... the E-Cat is a massive source of alpha particles
For context, can you provide the source of this statement?
I find this statement hard to believe since energetic alpha particle
emission produces lots of
Regarding: ... the E-Cat is a massive source of alpha particles
I have not seen this confirmed as an experimental observation. I understand
that this statement has its origins in the theory proposed from N. Cook. I
find this statement hard to believe since energetic alpha particle emission
Its may be correct if the alphas not are from alpha decay but direct
from LENR reactions.
The alphas may have energy producing soft x-rays.
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:34:28 -0400, Axil Axil wrote:
Regarding:
... the E-Cat is a massive source of alpha particles
I have not seen
this
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Furthermore, it is bad to base a theory of E-Cat reaction on the
production of ionizing radiation. Any source of nuclear radiation has, is,
and will be regulated. This most probably will place regulation of the
E-Cat under the Nuclear Regulation Authority
The Rossi theory is useless and does not discrible the LENR reaction. To
promalgate a usless, invalid, and politically distrutive theory is
foolhardy.
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Furthermore, it is bad to base
The LENR reaction does not produce protons, alpha, beta, or gamma,
radiation when the reactor is well heated.
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The Rossi theory is useless and does not discrible the LENR reaction. To
promalgate a usless, invalid, and
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The Rossi theory is useless and does not discrible the LENR reaction. To
promalgate a usless, invalid, and politically distrutive theory is
foolhardy.
That is an entirely different issue. The first assertion you made was that
it is it is bad to base a
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