Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-20 Thread David Roberson
be overcome. Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, May 20, 2016 9:59 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996 H LV <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote: 2.5 lbs of pow

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
H LV wrote: 2.5 lbs of powered nickel offers a great deal of surface area for heat of > adsorption. Also the nickel powder had been sitting in a vacuum before the > hydrogen gas was added so this would further enhance the adsorption of > hydrogen. > Yes. This is what I

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > Now that you mention it, and realizing how enticing/dangerous it would be > to a certain segment of the population . . . > We have seen crazy stunts with thermite and other energetic materials on > YouTube. In a worst case, we are talking about something

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-20 Thread H LV
2.5 lbs of powered nickel offers a great deal of surface area for heat of adsorption. Also the nickel powder had been sitting in a vacuum before the hydrogen gas was added so this would further enhance the adsorption of hydrogen. harry On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:39 PM, David Roberson

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-20 Thread Alain Sepeda
AFAIK this kind of reaction is regularly observed by accident in various similar situations. ;-) most don't know they see LENR. they just see they have to redo all again. 2016-05-19 22:53 GMT+02:00 Jones Beene : > Dave, > > You are not alone – few know of this incident.

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-20 Thread Jack Cole
Yes, all good reasons to carefully consider the safety of such an experiment. On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:52 PM Jones Beene wrote: > Now that you mention it, and realizing how enticing/dangerous it would be > to a certain segment of the population, the hope is that no one

RE: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-19 Thread Jones Beene
Now that you mention it, and realizing how enticing/dangerous it would be to a certain segment of the population, the hope is that no one gets hurt trying it. We have seen crazy stunts with thermite and other energetic materials on YouTube. In a worst case, we are talking about something which

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-19 Thread Jack Cole
Jones, Very interesting account. I have occasionally had the fantasy of modifying a pressure cooker, adding 10 pounds of nickel powder, and adding hydrogen (after degassing). On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:09 PM Jones Beene wrote: > Most observers of the LENR/nickel hydride

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-19 Thread Stephen Cooke
Wow so this triggered at room temperature? I wish we new more about this test and its products, especially with the hindsight of all that's been learnt in the 20 years since. It's an interesting topic much needed now. I miss reading these scientific discussions on vortex-l. Has any one tried

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > You are not alone – few know of this incident. But it’s not a sensible > choice to base anything regarding the validity of LENR on Rossi’s > problems with IH. > Yes, there is hardly any connection. To put it (the runaway) into context, there had already

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-19 Thread Bob Cook
Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996Jones etal-- Also most observers of the LENR scene are unaware of the details of a British 1956 patent describing what may be a LENR. Hank Mills has written a good summary of the invention on E Cat World I believe. It got by me as a reactor designer

RE: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-19 Thread Jones Beene
Dave, You are not alone – few know of this incident. But it’s not a sensible choice to base anything regarding the validity of LENR on Rossi’s problems with IH. The technology will survive, but Rossi’s lack of credibility could taint the field and impede progress for years. The Thermacore

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson wrote: I have not heard of that particular thermal run away reaction that you have > listed below but would find it interesting to follow up on. > I heard about it from Gene Mallove, but no details were forthcoming. It is tragic that they did not follow up on

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-19 Thread David Roberson
Jones, Is it possible to find another source to back up what you are describing in this event? A second written record would be fine if available. I have not heard of that particular thermal run away reaction that you have listed below but would find it interesting to follow up on. The