Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide

2023-07-06 Thread Frogfall
Compare this with Hans Coler's devices (1940s) 

http://www.rexresearch.com/coler/colerb.htm

Also, the much older, Daniel McFarland Cook device of 1871

https://patents.google.com/patent/US119825A/en

FF

On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 13:54:36 -0400
Terry Blanton  wrote:

> Corrected
> 
> http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm
> 
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:46 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:
> 
> > JL Naudin never found an OU device he didn't like.  He did tons on the MEG
> >
> > Https://www.jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:07 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:
> >
> >> Reminds me of Tom Bearden's MEG, motionless electromagnetic generator.
> >>
> >> As a EE since 1977,  my experience has shown "OU" on these devices are
> >> not measuring the area under the VxI waveform that is non-sinusoidal
> >> properly and have shown these flaws with a digital oscilloscope and a
> >> sampling resistor more than once.
> >>
> >> It does not please the "inventor".
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:40 PM Chris Zell  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Can this be real?  One of those ‘hiding in plain sight” rarities?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I see good journal articles and claims of replications and yet (cue
> >>> crickets sound)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *From:* Terry Blanton 
> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 06, 2023 12:27 PM
> >>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A patent app on an OU transformer:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> US20130009625A1
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf
> >>> <https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy?  He claims overunity
> >>>  and there appears to be some replication. He’s been published in some
> >>> really good journals across years.  What’s the story?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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RE: [Vo]:Osamu Ide

2023-07-06 Thread Chris Zell
I figured the MEG was just reactive/power factor stuff.

My hypothesis is that overunity could exist but only involving brief transients 
- because otherwise, our universe would end up as a white hot mass of extra 
energy everywhere.

Some German engineer wrote a paper claiming he replicated Ide's results.

I also wonder about "zero point energy" as needing a 'place where it ain't' and 
no one seems to bring that up.  Rather like tremendous pressure at the bottom 
of the ocean - it's all around but useless to generate anything because you  
need a lesser pressure to create a difference. So, if overunity is real, 
perhaps another dimension is involved to provide a transient difference in 
charge or pressure or whatever to make it work.

From: Terry Blanton 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2023 1:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide

Corrected

http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:46 PM Terry Blanton 
mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
JL Naudin never found an OU device he didn't like.  He did tons on the MEG

Https://www.jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm<https://www.jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm>

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:07 PM Terry Blanton 
mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Reminds me of Tom Bearden's MEG, motionless electromagnetic generator.

As a EE since 1977,  my experience has shown "OU" on these devices are not 
measuring the area under the VxI waveform that is non-sinusoidal properly and 
have shown these flaws with a digital oscilloscope and a sampling resistor more 
than once.

It does not please the "inventor".

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:40 PM Chris Zell 
mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>> wrote:
Can this be real?  One of those 'hiding in plain sight" rarities?

I see good journal articles and claims of replications and yet (cue 
crickets sound)

From: Terry Blanton mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2023 12:27 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide

A patent app on an OU transformer:

US20130009625A1

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton 
mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics

Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf<https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf>

On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell 
mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>> wrote:

Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy?  He claims overunity  and 
there appears to be some replication. He's been published in some really good 
journals across years.  What's the story?


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Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide

2023-07-06 Thread Terry Blanton
Corrected

http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:46 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

> JL Naudin never found an OU device he didn't like.  He did tons on the MEG
>
> Https://www.jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:07 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:
>
>> Reminds me of Tom Bearden's MEG, motionless electromagnetic generator.
>>
>> As a EE since 1977,  my experience has shown "OU" on these devices are
>> not measuring the area under the VxI waveform that is non-sinusoidal
>> properly and have shown these flaws with a digital oscilloscope and a
>> sampling resistor more than once.
>>
>> It does not please the "inventor".
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:40 PM Chris Zell  wrote:
>>
>>> Can this be real?  One of those ‘hiding in plain sight” rarities?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I see good journal articles and claims of replications and yet (cue
>>> crickets sound)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Terry Blanton 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 06, 2023 12:27 PM
>>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A patent app on an OU transformer:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> US20130009625A1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf
>>> <https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy?  He claims overunity
>>>  and there appears to be some replication. He’s been published in some
>>> really good journals across years.  What’s the story?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *CAUTION:* This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization.
>>> Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the
>>> sender.
>>>
>>


Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide

2023-07-06 Thread Terry Blanton
JL Naudin never found an OU device he didn't like.  He did tons on the MEG

Https://www.jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:07 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

> Reminds me of Tom Bearden's MEG, motionless electromagnetic generator.
>
> As a EE since 1977,  my experience has shown "OU" on these devices are not
> measuring the area under the VxI waveform that is non-sinusoidal properly
> and have shown these flaws with a digital oscilloscope and a sampling
> resistor more than once.
>
> It does not please the "inventor".
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:40 PM Chris Zell  wrote:
>
>> Can this be real?  One of those ‘hiding in plain sight” rarities?
>>
>>
>>
>> I see good journal articles and claims of replications and yet (cue
>> crickets sound)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Terry Blanton 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 06, 2023 12:27 PM
>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide
>>
>>
>>
>> A patent app on an OU transformer:
>>
>>
>>
>> US20130009625A1
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:
>>
>> Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics
>>
>>
>>
>> Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf
>> <https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy?  He claims overunity
>>  and there appears to be some replication. He’s been published in some
>> really good journals across years.  What’s the story?
>>
>>
>>
>> *CAUTION:* This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization.
>> Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the
>> sender.
>>
>


Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide

2023-07-06 Thread Terry Blanton
Reminds me of Tom Bearden's MEG, motionless electromagnetic generator.

As a EE since 1977,  my experience has shown "OU" on these devices are not
measuring the area under the VxI waveform that is non-sinusoidal properly
and have shown these flaws with a digital oscilloscope and a sampling
resistor more than once.

It does not please the "inventor".

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:40 PM Chris Zell  wrote:

> Can this be real?  One of those ‘hiding in plain sight” rarities?
>
>
>
> I see good journal articles and claims of replications and yet (cue
> crickets sound)
>
>
>
> *From:* Terry Blanton 
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 06, 2023 12:27 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide
>
>
>
> A patent app on an OU transformer:
>
>
>
> US20130009625A1
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:
>
> Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics
>
>
>
> Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf
> <https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell  wrote:
>
>
>
> Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy?  He claims overunity
>  and there appears to be some replication. He’s been published in some
> really good journals across years.  What’s the story?
>
>
>
> *CAUTION:* This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization.
> Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the
> sender.
>


RE: [Vo]:Osamu Ide

2023-07-06 Thread Chris Zell
Can this be real?  One of those 'hiding in plain sight" rarities?

I see good journal articles and claims of replications and yet (cue 
crickets sound)

From: Terry Blanton 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2023 12:27 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide

A patent app on an OU transformer:

US20130009625A1

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton 
mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics

Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf<https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf>

On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell 
mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>> wrote:

Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy?  He claims overunity  and 
there appears to be some replication. He's been published in some really good 
journals across years.  What's the story?


CAUTION: This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization. Please do 
not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender.


Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide

2023-07-06 Thread Terry Blanton
A patent app on an OU transformer:

US20130009625A1

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

> Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics
>
> Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy?  He claims overunity
>>  and there appears to be some replication. He’s been published in some
>> really good journals across years.  What’s the story?
>>
>


Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide

2023-07-06 Thread Terry Blanton
Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics

Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf

On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell  wrote:

>
>
> Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy?  He claims overunity
>  and there appears to be some replication. He’s been published in some
> really good journals across years.  What’s the story?
>