Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide
Compare this with Hans Coler's devices (1940s) http://www.rexresearch.com/coler/colerb.htm Also, the much older, Daniel McFarland Cook device of 1871 https://patents.google.com/patent/US119825A/en FF On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 13:54:36 -0400 Terry Blanton wrote: > Corrected > > http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:46 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > > > JL Naudin never found an OU device he didn't like. He did tons on the MEG > > > > Https://www.jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm > > > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:07 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > > > >> Reminds me of Tom Bearden's MEG, motionless electromagnetic generator. > >> > >> As a EE since 1977, my experience has shown "OU" on these devices are > >> not measuring the area under the VxI waveform that is non-sinusoidal > >> properly and have shown these flaws with a digital oscilloscope and a > >> sampling resistor more than once. > >> > >> It does not please the "inventor". > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:40 PM Chris Zell wrote: > >> > >>> Can this be real? One of those ‘hiding in plain sight” rarities? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I see good journal articles and claims of replications and yet (cue > >>> crickets sound) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *From:* Terry Blanton > >>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 06, 2023 12:27 PM > >>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > >>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> A patent app on an OU transformer: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> US20130009625A1 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > >>> > >>> Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf > >>> <https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy? He claims overunity > >>> and there appears to be some replication. He’s been published in some > >>> really good journals across years. What’s the story? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *CAUTION:* This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization. > >>> Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the > >>> sender. > >>> > >> -- Frogfall
RE: [Vo]:Osamu Ide
I figured the MEG was just reactive/power factor stuff. My hypothesis is that overunity could exist but only involving brief transients - because otherwise, our universe would end up as a white hot mass of extra energy everywhere. Some German engineer wrote a paper claiming he replicated Ide's results. I also wonder about "zero point energy" as needing a 'place where it ain't' and no one seems to bring that up. Rather like tremendous pressure at the bottom of the ocean - it's all around but useless to generate anything because you need a lesser pressure to create a difference. So, if overunity is real, perhaps another dimension is involved to provide a transient difference in charge or pressure or whatever to make it work. From: Terry Blanton Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2023 1:55 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide Corrected http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:46 PM Terry Blanton mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote: JL Naudin never found an OU device he didn't like. He did tons on the MEG Https://www.jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm<https://www.jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:07 PM Terry Blanton mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote: Reminds me of Tom Bearden's MEG, motionless electromagnetic generator. As a EE since 1977, my experience has shown "OU" on these devices are not measuring the area under the VxI waveform that is non-sinusoidal properly and have shown these flaws with a digital oscilloscope and a sampling resistor more than once. It does not please the "inventor". On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:40 PM Chris Zell mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>> wrote: Can this be real? One of those 'hiding in plain sight" rarities? I see good journal articles and claims of replications and yet (cue crickets sound) From: Terry Blanton mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2023 12:27 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide A patent app on an OU transformer: US20130009625A1 On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote: Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf<https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>> wrote: Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy? He claims overunity and there appears to be some replication. He's been published in some really good journals across years. What's the story? CAUTION: This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender. CAUTION: This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender.
Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide
Corrected http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:46 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > JL Naudin never found an OU device he didn't like. He did tons on the MEG > > Https://www.jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:07 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > >> Reminds me of Tom Bearden's MEG, motionless electromagnetic generator. >> >> As a EE since 1977, my experience has shown "OU" on these devices are >> not measuring the area under the VxI waveform that is non-sinusoidal >> properly and have shown these flaws with a digital oscilloscope and a >> sampling resistor more than once. >> >> It does not please the "inventor". >> >> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:40 PM Chris Zell wrote: >> >>> Can this be real? One of those ‘hiding in plain sight” rarities? >>> >>> >>> >>> I see good journal articles and claims of replications and yet (cue >>> crickets sound) >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Terry Blanton >>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 06, 2023 12:27 PM >>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide >>> >>> >>> >>> A patent app on an OU transformer: >>> >>> >>> >>> US20130009625A1 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton wrote: >>> >>> Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics >>> >>> >>> >>> Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf >>> <https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy? He claims overunity >>> and there appears to be some replication. He’s been published in some >>> really good journals across years. What’s the story? >>> >>> >>> >>> *CAUTION:* This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization. >>> Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the >>> sender. >>> >>
Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide
JL Naudin never found an OU device he didn't like. He did tons on the MEG Https://www.jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:07 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > Reminds me of Tom Bearden's MEG, motionless electromagnetic generator. > > As a EE since 1977, my experience has shown "OU" on these devices are not > measuring the area under the VxI waveform that is non-sinusoidal properly > and have shown these flaws with a digital oscilloscope and a sampling > resistor more than once. > > It does not please the "inventor". > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:40 PM Chris Zell wrote: > >> Can this be real? One of those ‘hiding in plain sight” rarities? >> >> >> >> I see good journal articles and claims of replications and yet (cue >> crickets sound) >> >> >> >> *From:* Terry Blanton >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 06, 2023 12:27 PM >> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide >> >> >> >> A patent app on an OU transformer: >> >> >> >> US20130009625A1 >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton wrote: >> >> Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics >> >> >> >> Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf >> <https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell wrote: >> >> >> >> Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy? He claims overunity >> and there appears to be some replication. He’s been published in some >> really good journals across years. What’s the story? >> >> >> >> *CAUTION:* This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization. >> Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the >> sender. >> >
Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide
Reminds me of Tom Bearden's MEG, motionless electromagnetic generator. As a EE since 1977, my experience has shown "OU" on these devices are not measuring the area under the VxI waveform that is non-sinusoidal properly and have shown these flaws with a digital oscilloscope and a sampling resistor more than once. It does not please the "inventor". On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:40 PM Chris Zell wrote: > Can this be real? One of those ‘hiding in plain sight” rarities? > > > > I see good journal articles and claims of replications and yet (cue > crickets sound) > > > > *From:* Terry Blanton > *Sent:* Thursday, July 06, 2023 12:27 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide > > > > A patent app on an OU transformer: > > > > US20130009625A1 > > > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > > Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics > > > > Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf > <https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf> > > > > On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell wrote: > > > > Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy? He claims overunity > and there appears to be some replication. He’s been published in some > really good journals across years. What’s the story? > > > > *CAUTION:* This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization. > Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the > sender. >
RE: [Vo]:Osamu Ide
Can this be real? One of those 'hiding in plain sight" rarities? I see good journal articles and claims of replications and yet (cue crickets sound) From: Terry Blanton Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2023 12:27 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide A patent app on an OU transformer: US20130009625A1 On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote: Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf<https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>> wrote: Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy? He claims overunity and there appears to be some replication. He's been published in some really good journals across years. What's the story? CAUTION: This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender.
Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide
A patent app on an OU transformer: US20130009625A1 On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics > > Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf > > On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell wrote: > >> >> >> Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy? He claims overunity >> and there appears to be some replication. He’s been published in some >> really good journals across years. What’s the story? >> >
Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide
Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell wrote: > > > Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy? He claims overunity > and there appears to be some replication. He’s been published in some > really good journals across years. What’s the story? >