RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Jed Rothwell


John Steck wrote:

You really expect a fair shake
on NPR?
Yes, I do -- for a good reason. The short segment they broadcast with Ira
Flatow was quite fair and accurate. Flatow has often communicated with us
that he knows what the story is. He was a little timid, but accurate. I
am hoping the other reporters on NPR contact him and discuss the matter.
Since he is their science reporter it is likely they will.


IMO the Scientific American
position is far more damaging to winning the hearts and minds of the
mainstream scientific community.
I agree.


Also, with regard to your
volley to Wikipedia... maybe read the Wired article you linked in your
post. It explains how the system works and how the subject
champions really control the info presented
there.
I did read it, and that is why I sent the message. I am hoping they will
make me the subject champion of cold fusion. If the people in
charge are reasonably fair they will let me fix the article and then lock
it. If they do not give me that assurance I will not bother to change it.
I have no time to play games with skeptics.
- Jed




RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Jed Rothwell


I wrote:
I did read it, and that is why I
sent the message. I am hoping they will make me the subject
champion of cold fusion. If the people in charge are reasonably
fair they will let me fix the article and then lock
it.
Mind you, I am not expecting a response. The people in charge probably do
not see things my way. But I propose to do a few weeks of tedious work,
and assemble 50 to 100 footnotes, and I'll be darned if I do that only to
have some skeptic come in and erase the whole thing.
The people in charge there do not seem to be hung up on formal
qualifications, but if they challenge me I will tell them I have read
hundreds of papers about cold fusion and the skeptics who wrote the
present article apparently have read none.
If the Encyclopedia were written for professionals, the best thing to do
would be to replace the entire article with Storms' Student's
Guide. However, I think the Guide is a little too technical for the
general public, and we have to preserve the existing article with the
comments by the skeptics, so I think this calls for a shorter article
based on the Guide targeted to the general public.
- Jed




RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Jed Rothwell


Grimer wrote:
There must be some neurotic
tree-hugging Vortexian who
could be relied on to play his part convincingly.
Wheel him on to explain the horrors which will ensue 
if the terrorists get there before the US is ready with 
adequate counter measures.
If I do say so myself, I think I did a pretty good job of that in
chapters 11 and 12 of the book.
Seriously, even a small difference in military capabilities can translate
into an enormous advantage. If the biplane fighter airplanes of the early
1930s have been available in 1916, I think WWI would have been over by
the end of the year. In 1940 if the British had had two or three
surface-to-air missile batteries with circa 1955 Nike technology,
the Battle of Britain would have been over before it
started, with zero casualties on the British side.

People as neurotic as him have
an almost mesmeric ability
to inspire fear. I remember he once came round to my house
and seeing my new fridge with an internal light (an innovation
at the time), he said, 
Are you sure that it turns off when you shut the door. 
Even though I knew perfectly well that it did. and the switch
plunger was in plain view, I'm ashamed to say that when he'd 
gone I opened the fridge door just a crack to make
certain.
That's hysterical! But why would anyone *fear* that the light remains
on?
- Jed




RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Steven Krivit

Jed wrote:
Yes, I do -- for a good reason. The short segment they broadcast with Ira 
Flatow was quite fair and accurate. Flatow has often communicated with us 
that he knows what the story is. He was a little timid, but accurate. I am 
hoping the other reporters on NPR contact him and discuss the matter. 
Since he is their science reporter it is likely they will.

Jed - If mainstream news media did their job, there would be no need for 
Infinite Energy or New Energy Times. If mainstream science publishing did 
their job, there would be no need for LENR-CANR.org.

But these entities cater to the dominant, safe public view. They lack 
either/both the courage or the foresight to explore the unknown.

Another viewpoint:
Henry Bauer touches on the very heart of why mainstream science journalism 
has been largely unwilling/unable to bridge the communication gap between 
the cold fusion community and the broader science community. A constant 
dilemma for reporters, Bauer says, is that they need access to sources, 
and if they publish material that casts doubt on the official view, they 
risk losing access to official sources.

Source:
Journal of Scientific Exploration, Science in the 21st Century: Knowledge
Monopolies and Research Cartels, by Henry H. Bauer (Vol. 18 #4  pp. 
643--660, Winter 2004)
http://newenergytimes.com/Library/2004BauerH-21stCenturyScience.pdf
Courtesy of http://www.scientificexploration.org/index.html

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RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Grimer
At 11:00 am 04-03-05 -0500, you wrote:
Grimer wrote:

There must be some neurotic tree-hugging Vortexian who
could be relied on to play his part convincingly.
Wheel him on to explain the horrors which will ensue
if the terrorists get there before the US is ready with
adequate counter measures.

If I do say so myself, I think I did a pretty good job of that in chapters 
11 and 12 of the book.

Seriously, even a small difference in military capabilities can translate 
into an enormous advantage. If the biplane fighter airplanes of the early 
1930s have been available in 1916, I think WWI would have been over by the 
end of the year. In 1940 if the British had had two or three surface-to-air 
missile batteries with circa 1955 Nike technology, the Battle of Britain 
would have been over before it started, with zero casualties on the British 
side.


People as neurotic as him have an almost mesmeric ability
to inspire fear. I remember he once came round to my house
and seeing my new fridge with an internal light (an innovation
at the time), he said,

Are you sure that it turns off when you shut the door.

Even though I knew perfectly well that it did. and the switch
plunger was in plain view, I'm ashamed to say that when he'd
gone I opened the fridge door just a crack to make certain.



 That's hysterical! But why would anyone 
 *fear* that the light remains on?

 - Jed


 I think he thought it would heat the fridge up, Jed. 
 Medical people aren't very good with numbers (pace Mills). 
 Calculus gives them nightmares, at least it did my brother 
 which is why he switched to biology in the 6th form.

 Frank



RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Jed Rothwell


Grimer wrote:
I think he thought it
would heat the fridge up, Jed. 
Medical people aren't very good with numbers (pace Mills). . .
.
Hmm . . . Well, it would heat it up, naturally. But the fact that the
fridge was cold when you opened the door showed that the compressor was
keeping up, and removing more heat than the bulb generated. The only
problem, then, was the cost of running the 20 W bulb and removing the
heat. That would be ~100 W continuous, 2.4 KWH per day, about $0.20 per
day worst case.
If it was a novelty, I guess I would have checked to be sure the switch
was working, too. No point in throwing away money.
- Jed




RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Jed Rothwell


Steven Krivit wrote:
Henry Bauer touches on the very
heart of why mainstream science journalism has been largely
unwilling/unable to bridge the communication gap between the cold fusion
community and the broader science community. A constant dilemma for
reporters, Bauer says, is that they need access to sources,
and if they publish material that casts doubt on the official view, they
risk losing access to official sources.
That is true. And yet Flatow's report was accurate and positive, albeit
timid. Some people in the media get away with reporting facts about cold
fusion, and they are not punished by losing access. I suspect the others
would also escape unscathed, but perhaps they are cowards and do not want
to risk it. Most, I think, simply buy the establishment's line without
question. I have contacted many people in the media and elsewhere. Only a
few have responded, and most of those have parroted the Scientific
American or some other official source. Often they cite phantom sources.
They claim the DoE ERAB report said this or that, when it said nothing of
the kind. In other words, laziness causes more harm than fear.
- Jed




RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Steven Krivit

That is true. And yet Flatow's report was accurate and positive, albeit 
timid. Some people in the media get away with reporting facts about cold 
fusion, and they are not punished by losing access. I suspect the others 
would also escape unscathed, but perhaps they are cowards and do not want 
to risk it. Most, I think, simply buy the establishment's line without 
question. I have contacted many people in the media and elsewhere. Only a 
few have responded, and most of those have parroted the Scientific 
American or some other official source. Often they cite phantom sources. 
They claim the DoE ERAB report said this or that, when it said nothing of 
the kind. In other words, laziness causes more harm than fear.

- Jed

Jed,
I forgot to mention. Yes, I agree with you about Flatow. I have listened to 
his question and dialogue in cf reports he has done and it is crystal clear 
to me that he knows much more than he tells. But he knows how to keep his 
producers happy, and keep his job, too. And that is his choice.

s 



Re: CF on NPR

2005-03-03 Thread Jed Rothwell


The Flatow segment was linked to a really idiotic segment on
sonofusion, which is full of insults toward CF:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4520833
- Jed