On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:27 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
"Wikipedia uses a lot of poor, dated references in Cold Fusion and the
> editor "
>
> this could be forgiven, but given more recent reference to mainstream
> article (like il corriere della serra, or justice) they refuse to update.
>
Coming fro
>From Terry,
Speaking of cynicism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiKBISeIySo
> "It's not easy being green"
... I thought you weren't green. ;-)
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
OrionWorks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks
@Orion's Belt
Jones cynical? Nahhh. Well, maybe a little.
At least he has some feelings left and is not jaded to the core like me.
"It's not easy being green"
"Wikipedia uses a lot of poor, dated references in Cold Fusion and the
editor "
this could be forgiven, but given more recent reference to mainstream
article (like il corriere della serra, or justice) they refuse to update.
this is what make the difference from error by incompetence, to
disinform
I don;t think that it is possible to build a Ni62 micro particle that is
100 microns in size that has been sintered together from 5 micron particles
and still retain the commercial COTS catalytic surface treatment as seen
in commercial 5 micron powders. The devil is in the details.
On Thu, Aug 6,
From: Jed Rothwell
> I believe tax evasion is the national pastime in Italy….
And that makes it ok? Heck, just blame the prosecutor… somebody had it in for
him, right?
The point is that Rossi cheated when a lot of money was at stake. Not once, but
many times. Would he do it again with
Jones Beene wrote:
> Five of the Italian prosecutions for tax evasion ended with convictions
> (custody imprisonments) and those were not reversed, and Rossi never
> claimed they were.
>
Is that so? I admit I have not followed the story closely, so I'll take
your word for it.
I believe tax eva
Jones, it is not a trial.
I understand that you have a negative opinion about Rossi. Right or wrong.
The semi-connection between what you call him a "scam artist" and a
conviction for tax eviction is stretching the argument way beyond reasons.
Why so critical - ( really judgmental)? Why not let him
One thing I've learned about Jones over the years is that when someone is
gullible enough to attack his personal assessments on LENR subjects I can
pretty much expect that instead of defending his positions he will immediately
launch a strong offense. Doing so, Jones is more than capable of skew
Jones Beene,
Rossi was convicted for tax evasion, not tax fraud, decades ago. It has
nothing to do with you libeling him about the E-Cat.
This discussion is pointless.
Adrian
From: Jed Rothwell
Ø He was convicted, but the conviction was thrown out. Therefore he is not
guilty. You cannot site a conviction in court as proof of guilt when that same
conviction is later voided by the courts.
Wait a minute. You act like there was only the one Petrodragon convicti
Jed,
My understanding was that after some 60 indictments were thrown out
Rossi was convicted of tax evasion.
This most popular sport in Italy is not the same was fraud.
Wikipedia uses a lot of poor, dated references in Cold Fusion and the
editor Andythegrump spends his life preventing others f
Jones Beene wrote:
> First off, ashfield - it is next to impossible to libel Rossi. The
> judicial system of Italy has guaranteed that. His Wiki entry, read by
> millions, begins this way:
>
> "Andrea Rossi (born 3 June 1950) is an Italian convicted fraudster and
> claimed inventor.[1][2][3]"
>
I
Jones beene,
I asked for a reference to back up your claim. You failed to give it.
Secondhand hearsay is hardly convincing.
As for the Wikipedia piece, they seem as biased as you are.
First off, ashfield - it is next to impossible to libel Rossi. The judicial
system of Italy has guaranteed that. His Wiki entry, read by millions, begins
this way:
"Andrea Rossi (born 3 June 1950) is an Italian convicted fraudster and claimed
inventor.[1][2][3]"
My remarks were more generous -
Jones Beene wrote:
> Yes. I suspect that Brian deduced this as being “likely,” rather than
> heard it. He has a wide network of well-placed associates. As you know,
> he has been highly critical of Lugano, and rightly so.
>
> Yes, I have been critical of Lugano too, and so has Mike McKubre. But a
From: Jed Rothwell
"It is little wonder why concerned LENR scientists (like Brian Ahern) now
believe that IH has finally seen through Rossi’s BS and are on the verge of
dumping him."
* I was going to ask the same thing. Where did you hear that? From Brian
Ahern I suppose. I wonder where
Jones Beene,
You are prepared to libel Rossi because you haven't seen proof of what
he claims.
Should we assume the same for you without proof?
What you wrote, that Rossi is a liar and a fraud, is more suited to the
muck in shutrossidown.com than Vortex.
a.ashfield wrote:
Jones Beene,
> "It is little wonder why concerned LENR scientists (like Brian Ahern) now
> believe that IH has finally seen through Rossi’s BS and are on the verge of
> dumping him."
>
> Do you have a reference for this?
>
I was going to ask the same thing. Where did you hear t
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
> reticence
Jones you might be right but why make a judgment before fact is in? His
reports are positive and if he fabricate all his anecdotes, as you call his
reports. then we can agree he is good at that. However, LENR has been in
the progr
Jones Beene,
"It is little wonder why concerned LENR scientists (like Brian Ahern)
now believe that IH has finally seen through Rossi’s BS and are on the
verge of dumping him."
Do you have a reference for this?
Your comment then tails off into gobbledegook so there still seems to be
a coding
From: Frank Acland
Ø
Ø From what we have been told, what is being tested now IS a commercial
product, providing heat to a factory and saving the factory owner a significant
amount of money in heating costs.
“Been told” is the operative phrase.
The plant owner is silent and is no
Steven,
"Would components from the Vort Collective continuum care to comment?"
Unfortunately I can't read Frank Acland's reply, who knows all about
it. I'm again getting a message saying there is a coding error and the
page won't display.
From where I sit, the news is that the plant is reall
Thanks Frank,
Due to numerous personal distractions that are constantly invading my life I
sort of got out of the habit of keeping tabs of e-Cat world. Perhaps I should
try to remedy that.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
OrionWorks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks
>From what we have been told, what is being tested now IS a commercial
product, providing heat to a factory and saving the factory owner a
significant amount of money in heating costs.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
[email protected]> wrote:
> From Ash
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