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In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Thu, 21 Jun 2018 23:28:45
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Hi,
[snip]
>Jones—
>
>I partially concur, particularly the spin part and the suggested experiments
>
>However there is a lot of evidence for He-4 a
From: mix...@bigpond.com
In reply to bobcook
➢ I partially concur, particularly the spin part and the suggested experiments.
However there is a lot of evidence for He-4 and Pd electrodes from the get go.
The CR-37 He-4 detection is pretty good in my mind.
The Pd105 + Li6 reaction Jones
In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Thu, 21 Jun 2018 23:28:45
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Hi,
[snip]
>Jones
>
>I partially concur, particularly the spin part and the suggested experiments
>
>However there is a lot of evidence for He-4 and Pd electrodes from the get go.
> The CR-37 He-4 detection is
: [Vo]:All ICCF-21 Abstracts in one document
I favor magnetic field interactions that support both LENR and Manelas.
From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com
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, June 16, 2018 6:51:54 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:All ICCF-21 Abstracts in one document
OK to summarize:
The premise is that there is no
D+D -> He
reaction in cold fusion, since there is no strong gamma and we must minimize
required “miracles”
Another distinct possibil
Brian Ahern wrote:
> Martin said they stopped using bulk cathodes to avoid explosions. The
> cathode he gave to Biberian was 20cm long and 2mm OD.
>
Yes. Biberian still has it. He discussed it at ICCF-21, and showed a photo
of it. He has cut off small segments from it and subjected them to
Ahern
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 9:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [Vo]:All ICCF-21 Abstracts in one document
Martin told me that Pd-20% Ag was the best performer.
This tracks with the highest transition temperature near 17K. The deuterons
have their largest amplitude
OK to summarize:
The premise is that there is no
D+D -> He
reaction in cold fusion, since there is no strong gamma and we must minimize
required “miracles”
Another distinct possibility for those who want to keep helium in the equation
is:
105Pd + 6Li -> 107Ag + 4He
The alpha particle
I favor magnetic field interactions that support both LENR and Manelas.
From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com
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Sounds like spin and magnetic fields
.
From: Jones Beene
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 9:10 AM
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Subject: RE: [Vo]:All ICCF-21 Abstracts in one document
Bob,
I was waiting for you to concur, and we both can hope that Biberian will
further pursue the spin coupling angle.
He seems to be silent
Bob,
I was waiting for you to concur, and we both can hope that Biberian will
further pursue the spin coupling angle.
He seems to be silent on taking this finding to the limit – despite it possibly
being the best evidence yet for what is happening in Pd-D. (best ever)
One wonders if the
]:All ICCF-21 Abstracts in one document
BTW – here are some numbers suggesting why there was no radiation signature
from the Pons cathode when it was producing excess heat from cold fusion.
1. Mass of palladium-105 104.905 MeV
2. Mass of deuteron 2.014 MeV
3. Mass
to lattice electrons, potentially via a
connecting oscillating magnetic field.
I hope to visit Biberian’s lab in the Fall per invitation.
Bob Cook
From: Jones Beene
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 7:07 PM
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In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 14 Jun 2018 16:31:56 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>Hi Robin,
>
>I am pretty sure it was D2
but as you say, the precursor to any nuclear
>reaction of this type could be a first stage densification reaction - whether
>it be Millsean or Holmlidean or otherwise
From: mix...@bigpond.com
… A di-deuterino molecule could contribute 1 D to the reaction, with the other
absorbing the reaction energy as kinetic energy. Deuterons are about 4000 more
massive than electrons, so one might expect very little of no bremsstrahlung.
Most of the kinetic energy
In reply to JonesBeene's message of Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:50:52 -0700:
Hi Jones,
[snip]
>Oops again. Where is Robin when we need him?
>.
>
>A. Mass of palladium-105 104.905 amu
>B. Mass of deuteron 2.014 amu
>C. Mass of silver-107 106.905 amu
>
>Excess mass of
Oops again. Where is Robin when we need him?
.
A. Mass of palladium-105 104.905 amu
B. Mass of deuteron 2.014 amu
C. Mass of silver-107 106.905 amu
Excess mass of fusion of A and B 14 amu or about 13 MeV
Oops. My bad.
Substituted the wrong values. Should never drink decaf.
Here is a corrected version, assuming there is no further mistake.
BTW – here are some numbers suggesting why there was no radiation signature
from the Pons cathode when it was producing excess heat from cold fusion.
A.
BTW – here are some numbers suggesting why there was no radiation signature
from the Pons cathode when it was producing excess heat from cold fusion.
A. Mass of palladium-105 104.905 MeV
B. Mass of deuteron 2.014 MeV
C. Mass of silver-107 106.905 MeV
Excess
As a point of historical reference, a cursory search was done wrt the isotope
Pd-105 and its relevance to cold fusion, which turns up many hits including a
very old and very provocative detail (patent application) – which only now is
coming to light via the Biberian disclosure. AFAIK this
From: Jed Rothwell
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ICCFabstracts.pdf
There is a most interesting paper by Biberian on page 10 which begins with this
background info:
“In 2001, Stanley Pons gave me a palladium cathode that had produced a lot of
excess heat. The
electrode was 10cm long and 2mm
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