Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-12-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: Regarding Robin’s observation, cardiologists may not like such a long life > device since it would reduce the market supply of people needing periodic > operations. > No, no, no, NO! Never. Implanting a pacemaker or changing one out is a serious operation. It

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-12-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
It is a shame you cannot easily recharge batteries in the body. Heart Venticular Assist Devices (VAD) are all powered by a physical connection to the outside of the body. I suppose that must be a awkward, and a source of infection. See: http://www.mylvad.com/content/what-lvad-how-does-it-work

RE: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-12-01 Thread bobcook39923
disposal sites containing heavy metals and organic waste, both a major concern to health and safety of future, non-technical generations and the environment. Bob Cook . From: Bob Higgins Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:40 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-12-01 Thread Bob Higgins
This is possible, but it would require a close coupling via low frequency magnetic fields. Think of it as a hockey puck placed over the pacemaker implant area for a period of hours. The human body is well modeled as a container of salt water. In fact, when we were creating RF models of the

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:41:32 -0700: Hi, [snip] >I know how industrial diamond and DLC are made and the rates that are >reasonable. I don't know where the 4mW/g electrical came from for 14C >(perhaps that is the energy output of the 14C), Yes, that's one reason

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
The most clever scheme for powering pacemakers I have heard of is to power them with oxygen and carbon from the bloodstream. Like small, artificial organs. I do not know where that project is but it seems like a neat idea. The power lasts as long as the person does. There are some other schemes

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-29 Thread David Roberson
- From: Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2016 3:17 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries Actually, the output voltage is the voltage of the semiconductor junction. The beta particl

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-29 Thread Bob Higgins
> > -Original Message- > From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2016 10:37 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear > batteries > > <mix...@bigpond.com&

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson wrote: > Of course, if it costs a fortune to manufacture that would not be true. > Synthetic diamonds for industrial apps are fairly cheap. The gem quality ones cost $6,000 per carat (0.2 g) which is a lot. I do not know which you would need. However, medical

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-29 Thread David Roberson
rtex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2016 10:37 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries <mix...@bigpond.com> wrote: The maximum power output of such a battery would be about 4 mW / gm of C14. (That's milli-watt, not Megawatt, whi

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-29 Thread David Roberson
skimo.com> Sent: Mon, Nov 28, 2016 3:09 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries And what was the story on Paul Brown? He claimed huge currents, not just microamps from his devices. Do we call him a fraud and move on? Or was he onto something big?

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-29 Thread David Roberson
I did not see a reference to the open circuit voltage or short circuit current obtained during these tests. Has anyone found a reference? Also, where are the electrical terminals? Dave -Original Message- From: Jack Cole To: vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: The maximum power output of such a battery would be about 4 mW / gm of C14. > (That's milli-watt, not Megawatt, which means you would be looking at a > very low > acceleration rate. > A hearing aid battery produces less than 1 mW. A pacemaker produces about 10 mW. So

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Jack Cole's message of Mon, 28 Nov 2016 17:39:59 +: Hi, [snip] >Interesting association to the EM drive. Maybe it would produce >reactionless thrust also? > >Assuming the EM drive actually works, this would be an ideal application >for this kind of nuclear battery. I am assuming

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-28 Thread Brian Ahern
e: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries This is really just the natural progression of betavoltaics, incorporating "nano". The niche has been around for many years as it is almost obvious... remember Paul Brown and before?... Several of those betavoltaic propone

RE: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-28 Thread Chris Zell
]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries This is really just the natural progression of betavoltaics, incorporating "nano". The niche has been around for many years as it is almost obvious... remember Paul Brown and before?... Several of those betavoltaic propo

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-28 Thread Jones Beene
This is really just the natural progression of betavoltaics, incorporating "nano". The niche has been around for many years as it is almost obvious... remember Paul Brown and before?... Several of those betavoltaic proponents used to post here (Brown passed away in 2001). The tech was always

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
That's fantastic. If it works, it will be as good as cold fusion for small scale devices such as hearing aids. I wonder if it can be powerful enough for a cell phone? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-28 Thread Jack Cole
Interesting association to the EM drive. Maybe it would produce reactionless thrust also? Assuming the EM drive actually works, this would be an ideal application for this kind of nuclear battery. I am assuming this would be a very expensive manufacturing process, but a battery working for

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

2016-11-28 Thread Jones Beene
The radioactive carbon diamond is probably acting as a diode, making it a self-powered diode. The beta emission would be similar to high voltage. It is a good bet that the physical shape must be tapered and brings to mind the Shawyer cavity. Schottky diodes made of artificial diamond are known