Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Axil Axil]

Sorry the link should have been as follows:

https://remoteview.substack.com/p/vega

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:13 AM Axil Axil  wrote:

> Here is a system that produces EVOs. The EVO is unstable and will explode
> when it exceeds 100 microns in size. This explosion was names "Bosenova"
> because the tachyon condensate explodes seeding out a cloud of 10^23
> electrons more or less at the speed of light when their charge and mass is
> reestablished.
>
> https://remoteview.substack.com/
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:04 AM Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>> These bubbles are tachyonic which makes the bubbles replete with negative
>> energy. The bubbles can be considered a false vacuum since the tachyons 
>> (Cavity
>> Higgs-Polaritons) are able to modify the Higgs field.
>>
>> Cavity Higgs-Polaritons
>> https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.03377
>>
>>
>> Physicists Say They've Created a Device That Generates 'Negative Mass'
>>
>> https://www.sciencealert.com/negative-mass-quasi-particle-polaritons-low-energy-lasers#:~:text=This%20builds%20on%20recent%20theoretical,instead%20of%20being%20pushed%20away
>> .
>>
>> "Now physicists from the University of Rochester have created a device
>> that allows them to actually create these polaritons.
>>
>> They do this by manipulating captured photons and combine them with a
>> kind of quasi-particle called an exciton
>>  to make something
>> half-light/half-matter that some scientists affectionately refer to as 'magic
>> dust
>> 
>> '."
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 1:08 AM Jonathan Berry <
>> jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How do these bubbles of space really differ from the concept of a
>>> dynamical space-fluidic medium?
>>>
>>> BTW my speculation based on some stuff Bob Greenyer has reported is that
>>> in a vacuum these EVO's exist but are empty and don't do anything till the
>>> moment hydrogen or other elements are let in.
>>>
>>> That these Evo's or more correctly ADS's can exist in an unnoticed form
>>> till they begin interacting with matter.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 at 10:35, Axil Axil  wrote:
>>>
 The Exotic Vacuum Object EVO is a bubble of Anti-de Sitter space (AdS
 space) that is formed through the condensation of tachyons made available
 within a superconducting seeded environment. Inside the bubble of AdS space
 (EVO), there exists another universe that is incompatible with our universe
 (De Sitter space)

 De Sitter space
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Sitter_space

 Anti-de Sitter space
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-de_Sitter_space

 When matter in our universe encounters AdS space inside the EVO, it
 decomposes into pure energy. Most of this energy is lost through a
 superposition effect produced by superconductivity of the tachyon
 condensate. But some survive the termination of the EVO to produce newly
 formed elements that form in De Sitter space from this excess energy
 residue. This we call transmutation of elements.

 In more detail, at the center of the EVO there exists a black string
 which is a zone of nothingness. It is this core that deconstructs matter
 from De Sitter space that enters the zone of nothingness into pure energy.

 In a recent paper - Nothing really matters

 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2002.01764.pdf

 Our unstable universe is described, but the process of total matter
 destruction throughout the universe as described in the paper is not
 totally correct as we have found through our recent experimentation with
 EVOs (these bubbles of nothing). The process of distruction does not seem
 to spread from the EVO  into De Sitter space. Fortunately, the zone of
 nothing seems to remain confined within the bubble of Anti-de Sitter space.

 Sometimes superposition does not immediately set in for a second or two
 and a lot of subatomic particles and gamma radiation is produced. But when
 the engineering is right, this disruptive and unpleasant process is
 eliminated.

 On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 9:46 PM Axil Axil  wrote:

> There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism and
> superconductivity. The historical record provides ample evidence that
> analogies between superconductivity and particle physics played an
> important heuristic role in the development of the Higgs model.
>
> But what has recently hit my hot button was the possibility that this
> analogy may be more than a formal one but actually a physical one. The
> Mexican hat potential and spontaneous symmetry breaking are present in 
> both
> these mechanisms.
>
> It has recently been discovered that irradiating a superconductor with
> a laser will generate polaritons which inherit their Mexican hat 

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Axil Axil]

Here is a system that produces EVOs. The EVO is unstable and will explode
when it exceeds 100 microns in size. This explosion was names "Bosenova"
because the tachyon condensate explodes seeding out a cloud of 10^23
electrons more or less at the speed of light when their charge and mass is
reestablished.

https://remoteview.substack.com/

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:04 AM Axil Axil  wrote:

> These bubbles are tachyonic which makes the bubbles replete with negative
> energy. The bubbles can be considered a false vacuum since the tachyons 
> (Cavity
> Higgs-Polaritons) are able to modify the Higgs field.
>
> Cavity Higgs-Polaritons
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.03377
>
>
> Physicists Say They've Created a Device That Generates 'Negative Mass'
>
> https://www.sciencealert.com/negative-mass-quasi-particle-polaritons-low-energy-lasers#:~:text=This%20builds%20on%20recent%20theoretical,instead%20of%20being%20pushed%20away
> .
>
> "Now physicists from the University of Rochester have created a device
> that allows them to actually create these polaritons.
>
> They do this by manipulating captured photons and combine them with a kind
> of quasi-particle called an exciton
>  to make something
> half-light/half-matter that some scientists affectionately refer to as 'magic
> dust
> 
> '."
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 1:08 AM Jonathan Berry 
> wrote:
>
>> How do these bubbles of space really differ from the concept of a
>> dynamical space-fluidic medium?
>>
>> BTW my speculation based on some stuff Bob Greenyer has reported is that
>> in a vacuum these EVO's exist but are empty and don't do anything till the
>> moment hydrogen or other elements are let in.
>>
>> That these Evo's or more correctly ADS's can exist in an unnoticed form
>> till they begin interacting with matter.
>>
>> On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 at 10:35, Axil Axil  wrote:
>>
>>> The Exotic Vacuum Object EVO is a bubble of Anti-de Sitter space (AdS
>>> space) that is formed through the condensation of tachyons made available
>>> within a superconducting seeded environment. Inside the bubble of AdS space
>>> (EVO), there exists another universe that is incompatible with our universe
>>> (De Sitter space)
>>>
>>> De Sitter space
>>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Sitter_space
>>>
>>> Anti-de Sitter space
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-de_Sitter_space
>>>
>>> When matter in our universe encounters AdS space inside the EVO, it
>>> decomposes into pure energy. Most of this energy is lost through a
>>> superposition effect produced by superconductivity of the tachyon
>>> condensate. But some survive the termination of the EVO to produce newly
>>> formed elements that form in De Sitter space from this excess energy
>>> residue. This we call transmutation of elements.
>>>
>>> In more detail, at the center of the EVO there exists a black string
>>> which is a zone of nothingness. It is this core that deconstructs matter
>>> from De Sitter space that enters the zone of nothingness into pure energy.
>>>
>>> In a recent paper - Nothing really matters
>>>
>>> https://arxiv.org/pdf/2002.01764.pdf
>>>
>>> Our unstable universe is described, but the process of total matter
>>> destruction throughout the universe as described in the paper is not
>>> totally correct as we have found through our recent experimentation with
>>> EVOs (these bubbles of nothing). The process of distruction does not seem
>>> to spread from the EVO  into De Sitter space. Fortunately, the zone of
>>> nothing seems to remain confined within the bubble of Anti-de Sitter space.
>>>
>>> Sometimes superposition does not immediately set in for a second or two
>>> and a lot of subatomic particles and gamma radiation is produced. But when
>>> the engineering is right, this disruptive and unpleasant process is
>>> eliminated.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 9:46 PM Axil Axil  wrote:
>>>
 There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism and
 superconductivity. The historical record provides ample evidence that
 analogies between superconductivity and particle physics played an
 important heuristic role in the development of the Higgs model.

 But what has recently hit my hot button was the possibility that this
 analogy may be more than a formal one but actually a physical one. The
 Mexican hat potential and spontaneous symmetry breaking are present in both
 these mechanisms.

 It has recently been discovered that irradiating a superconductor with
 a laser will generate polaritons which inherit their Mexican hat potential
 from their superconducting electron feedstock. A highly probable slow light
 mixing cavity  will maximize the light/matter quasiparticle environment
 that surrounds the superconductor.  It has been experimentally verified
 that the  polaritons that are produced 

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Axil Axil]

These bubbles are tachyonic which makes the bubbles replete with negative
energy. The bubbles can be considered a false vacuum since the tachyons (Cavity
Higgs-Polaritons) are able to modify the Higgs field.

Cavity Higgs-Polaritons
https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.03377


Physicists Say They've Created a Device That Generates 'Negative Mass'
https://www.sciencealert.com/negative-mass-quasi-particle-polaritons-low-energy-lasers#:~:text=This%20builds%20on%20recent%20theoretical,instead%20of%20being%20pushed%20away
.

"Now physicists from the University of Rochester have created a device that
allows them to actually create these polaritons.

They do this by manipulating captured photons and combine them with a kind
of quasi-particle called an exciton  to
make something half-light/half-matter that some scientists affectionately
refer to as 'magic dust

'."

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 1:08 AM Jonathan Berry 
wrote:

> How do these bubbles of space really differ from the concept of a
> dynamical space-fluidic medium?
>
> BTW my speculation based on some stuff Bob Greenyer has reported is that
> in a vacuum these EVO's exist but are empty and don't do anything till the
> moment hydrogen or other elements are let in.
>
> That these Evo's or more correctly ADS's can exist in an unnoticed form
> till they begin interacting with matter.
>
> On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 at 10:35, Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>> The Exotic Vacuum Object EVO is a bubble of Anti-de Sitter space (AdS
>> space) that is formed through the condensation of tachyons made available
>> within a superconducting seeded environment. Inside the bubble of AdS space
>> (EVO), there exists another universe that is incompatible with our universe
>> (De Sitter space)
>>
>> De Sitter space
>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Sitter_space
>>
>> Anti-de Sitter space
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-de_Sitter_space
>>
>> When matter in our universe encounters AdS space inside the EVO, it
>> decomposes into pure energy. Most of this energy is lost through a
>> superposition effect produced by superconductivity of the tachyon
>> condensate. But some survive the termination of the EVO to produce newly
>> formed elements that form in De Sitter space from this excess energy
>> residue. This we call transmutation of elements.
>>
>> In more detail, at the center of the EVO there exists a black string
>> which is a zone of nothingness. It is this core that deconstructs matter
>> from De Sitter space that enters the zone of nothingness into pure energy.
>>
>> In a recent paper - Nothing really matters
>>
>> https://arxiv.org/pdf/2002.01764.pdf
>>
>> Our unstable universe is described, but the process of total matter
>> destruction throughout the universe as described in the paper is not
>> totally correct as we have found through our recent experimentation with
>> EVOs (these bubbles of nothing). The process of distruction does not seem
>> to spread from the EVO  into De Sitter space. Fortunately, the zone of
>> nothing seems to remain confined within the bubble of Anti-de Sitter space.
>>
>> Sometimes superposition does not immediately set in for a second or two
>> and a lot of subatomic particles and gamma radiation is produced. But when
>> the engineering is right, this disruptive and unpleasant process is
>> eliminated.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 9:46 PM Axil Axil  wrote:
>>
>>> There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism and
>>> superconductivity. The historical record provides ample evidence that
>>> analogies between superconductivity and particle physics played an
>>> important heuristic role in the development of the Higgs model.
>>>
>>> But what has recently hit my hot button was the possibility that this
>>> analogy may be more than a formal one but actually a physical one. The
>>> Mexican hat potential and spontaneous symmetry breaking are present in both
>>> these mechanisms.
>>>
>>> It has recently been discovered that irradiating a superconductor with a
>>> laser will generate polaritons which inherit their Mexican hat potential
>>> from their superconducting electron feedstock. A highly probable slow light
>>> mixing cavity  will maximize the light/matter quasiparticle environment
>>> that surrounds the superconductor.  It has been experimentally verified
>>> that the  polaritons that are produced by the superconductor will generate
>>> a tachyonic Higgs field. These quasiparticles are called cavity Higgs
>>> polaritons.
>>>
>>> This serendipity opens up a physical platform where Spontaneous symmetry
>>> breaking, Bose condensation, the Higgs field, and tachyonic condensation
>>> open up the door to a realization of the predictions of string theory such
>>> as black strings and bubbles of metastable AdS space. Generating a
>>> metastable bubble of AdS  space would enable the possible experimental

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Jonathan Berry]

How do these bubbles of space really differ from the concept of a dynamical
space-fluidic medium?

BTW my speculation based on some stuff Bob Greenyer has reported is that in
a vacuum these EVO's exist but are empty and don't do anything till the
moment hydrogen or other elements are let in.

That these Evo's or more correctly ADS's can exist in an unnoticed form
till they begin interacting with matter.

On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 at 10:35, Axil Axil  wrote:

> The Exotic Vacuum Object EVO is a bubble of Anti-de Sitter space (AdS
> space) that is formed through the condensation of tachyons made available
> within a superconducting seeded environment. Inside the bubble of AdS space
> (EVO), there exists another universe that is incompatible with our universe
> (De Sitter space)
>
> De Sitter space
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Sitter_space
>
> Anti-de Sitter space
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-de_Sitter_space
>
> When matter in our universe encounters AdS space inside the EVO, it
> decomposes into pure energy. Most of this energy is lost through a
> superposition effect produced by superconductivity of the tachyon
> condensate. But some survive the termination of the EVO to produce newly
> formed elements that form in De Sitter space from this excess energy
> residue. This we call transmutation of elements.
>
> In more detail, at the center of the EVO there exists a black string which
> is a zone of nothingness. It is this core that deconstructs matter from De
> Sitter space that enters the zone of nothingness into pure energy.
>
> In a recent paper - Nothing really matters
>
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/2002.01764.pdf
>
> Our unstable universe is described, but the process of total matter
> destruction throughout the universe as described in the paper is not
> totally correct as we have found through our recent experimentation with
> EVOs (these bubbles of nothing). The process of distruction does not seem
> to spread from the EVO  into De Sitter space. Fortunately, the zone of
> nothing seems to remain confined within the bubble of Anti-de Sitter space.
>
> Sometimes superposition does not immediately set in for a second or two
> and a lot of subatomic particles and gamma radiation is produced. But when
> the engineering is right, this disruptive and unpleasant process is
> eliminated.
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 9:46 PM Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>> There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism and
>> superconductivity. The historical record provides ample evidence that
>> analogies between superconductivity and particle physics played an
>> important heuristic role in the development of the Higgs model.
>>
>> But what has recently hit my hot button was the possibility that this
>> analogy may be more than a formal one but actually a physical one. The
>> Mexican hat potential and spontaneous symmetry breaking are present in both
>> these mechanisms.
>>
>> It has recently been discovered that irradiating a superconductor with a
>> laser will generate polaritons which inherit their Mexican hat potential
>> from their superconducting electron feedstock. A highly probable slow light
>> mixing cavity  will maximize the light/matter quasiparticle environment
>> that surrounds the superconductor.  It has been experimentally verified
>> that the  polaritons that are produced by the superconductor will generate
>> a tachyonic Higgs field. These quasiparticles are called cavity Higgs
>> polaritons.
>>
>> This serendipity opens up a physical platform where Spontaneous symmetry
>> breaking, Bose condensation, the Higgs field, and tachyonic condensation
>> open up the door to a realization of the predictions of string theory such
>> as black strings and bubbles of metastable AdS space. Generating a
>> metastable bubble of AdS  space would enable the possible experimental
>> production of topological vortex-like defects such as  the 'tHooft-Polyakov
>> monopole. Furthermore, the radius of curvature of anti de Sitter space
>> provides an extra length scale that could allow the study of the equations
>> of motion in a limit where the masses of the Higgs field and the massive
>> vector bosons are both vanishing. This alone might allow the study of how
>> matter and forces behave in a new AdS based universe  let alone allow for
>> the availability of an experimental platform on which many of the posits of
>> string theory can be physically tested in a real world rooted experimental
>>  system.
>>
>> This analogy explains how the Holmlid mechanism works. In the AdS bubble,
>> the Higgs field is disabled which allows the black string to convert matter
>> to energy. The energy is then transferred to the AdS environment which
>> surrounds the black string where matter reforms in a new configuration.
>>
>> This discussion about tachyon condensation provides theoretical context
>> on how an AdS bubble is structured and how that bubble decomposes and
>> reforms matter.
>>
>> 

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Axil Axil]

The Exotic Vacuum Object EVO is a bubble of Anti-de Sitter space (AdS
space) that is formed through the condensation of tachyons made available
within a superconducting seeded environment. Inside the bubble of AdS space
(EVO), there exists another universe that is incompatible with our universe
(De Sitter space)

De Sitter space
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Sitter_space

Anti-de Sitter space
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-de_Sitter_space

When matter in our universe encounters AdS space inside the EVO, it
decomposes into pure energy. Most of this energy is lost through a
superposition effect produced by superconductivity of the tachyon
condensate. But some survive the termination of the EVO to produce newly
formed elements that form in De Sitter space from this excess energy
residue. This we call transmutation of elements.

In more detail, at the center of the EVO there exists a black string which
is a zone of nothingness. It is this core that deconstructs matter from De
Sitter space that enters the zone of nothingness into pure energy.

In a recent paper - Nothing really matters

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2002.01764.pdf

Our unstable universe is described, but the process of total matter
destruction throughout the universe as described in the paper is not
totally correct as we have found through our recent experimentation with
EVOs (these bubbles of nothing). The process of distruction does not seem
to spread from the EVO  into De Sitter space. Fortunately, the zone of
nothing seems to remain confined within the bubble of Anti-de Sitter space.

Sometimes superposition does not immediately set in for a second or two and
a lot of subatomic particles and gamma radiation is produced. But when the
engineering is right, this disruptive and unpleasant process is eliminated.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 9:46 PM Axil Axil  wrote:

> There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism and
> superconductivity. The historical record provides ample evidence that
> analogies between superconductivity and particle physics played an
> important heuristic role in the development of the Higgs model.
>
> But what has recently hit my hot button was the possibility that this
> analogy may be more than a formal one but actually a physical one. The
> Mexican hat potential and spontaneous symmetry breaking are present in both
> these mechanisms.
>
> It has recently been discovered that irradiating a superconductor with a
> laser will generate polaritons which inherit their Mexican hat potential
> from their superconducting electron feedstock. A highly probable slow light
> mixing cavity  will maximize the light/matter quasiparticle environment
> that surrounds the superconductor.  It has been experimentally verified
> that the  polaritons that are produced by the superconductor will generate
> a tachyonic Higgs field. These quasiparticles are called cavity Higgs
> polaritons.
>
> This serendipity opens up a physical platform where Spontaneous symmetry
> breaking, Bose condensation, the Higgs field, and tachyonic condensation
> open up the door to a realization of the predictions of string theory such
> as black strings and bubbles of metastable AdS space. Generating a
> metastable bubble of AdS  space would enable the possible experimental
> production of topological vortex-like defects such as  the 'tHooft-Polyakov
> monopole. Furthermore, the radius of curvature of anti de Sitter space
> provides an extra length scale that could allow the study of the equations
> of motion in a limit where the masses of the Higgs field and the massive
> vector bosons are both vanishing. This alone might allow the study of how
> matter and forces behave in a new AdS based universe  let alone allow for
> the availability of an experimental platform on which many of the posits of
> string theory can be physically tested in a real world rooted experimental
>  system.
>
> This analogy explains how the Holmlid mechanism works. In the AdS bubble,
> the Higgs field is disabled which allows the black string to convert matter
> to energy. The energy is then transferred to the AdS environment which
> surrounds the black string where matter reforms in a new configuration.
>
> This discussion about tachyon condensation provides theoretical context on
> how an AdS bubble is structured and how that bubble decomposes and reforms
> matter.
>
> https://online.kitp.ucsb.edu/online/chord18/tachycond/rm/jwvideo.html
>

RE: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Robert==

Your questions are good.Additional questions for you:

Is your concept a singularity or does it take some  small volume?

Are neutrinos also  primary particles that occupy a small 3-D volume, if at 
rest?

Can neutrinos carry angular momentum through space?  And, if so, at what speeds?

Bob Cook


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To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

They are more like geometric vibrations from the quantum vacuum fluctuations 
with miniature black holes at the vortices.
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On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 11:20 PM, Robin
 wrote:
In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:49:49 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]

>All particles we know are resonances of the proton.


Don't you think a free electron is a bit light weight to be a proton resonance?

Maybe structures other than protons are also possible?

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Robert Lee]

They are more like geometric vibrations from the quantum vacuum fluctuations 
with miniature black holes at the vortices.

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  On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 11:20 PM, Robin 
wrote:   In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:49:49 
+0100:
Hi,
[snip]
>All particles we know are resonances of the proton. 

Don't you think a free electron is a bit light weight to be a proton resonance?

Maybe structures other than protons are also possible?

  

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

This is only for math freaks...

Chapter 12 of the last SO(4) physics release.


J.W.

On 28.02.2021 18:10, bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote:


Jurg---

In response to Robin’s Frriday comment you note:

You can only measure the electron g-factor, where as you can get it from
a metric transformation from the proton strong force equation.

IIs the  strong force equation magnetlicly    derived from  flux 
compression


What is the equation for the force?

Bob Cook

*From: *Jürg Wyttenbach <mailto:ju...@datamart.ch>
*Sent: *Friday, February 26, 2021 3:28 PM
*To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
*Subject: *Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

What is a free electron, i.e. as used in an x-ray tube?

Good question!

Live - all the chemistry that forms/carries it - happens between the 
electron and the proton (inside nuclei). So we stay in between.


Physically a free electron behaves like a fat photon with a locked in 
wave that is responsible for its internal charge coupling - hence mass.


As in general relativity you can always find math to explain it 
differently, but this will not change the three only observable of an 
electron. It's mass, magnetic moment and the electron g-factor. Charge 
is an attribute=axiom. But all factors are connected and not fully 
independent.


But if an electron can be free is questionable as everywhere, there is 
mass and most mass has a magnetic moment, hence there will be interaction.


J.W.

On 26.02.2021 21:41, Robin wrote:

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:05:31 +0100:

Hi,

[snip]

No the electron has no stable strong force radius.

You can only measure the electron g-factor, where as you can get it from

a metric transformation from the proton strong force equation.

Physics will change. More radically as some will like.

J.W.

What is a free electron, i.e. as used in an x-ray tube?

--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr. 22
8910 Affoltern am Albis
+41 44 760 14 18
+41 79 246 36 06


--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr. 22
8910 Affoltern am Albis

+41 44 760 14 18
+41 79 246 36 06

RE: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Jurg---

In response to Robin’s Frriday comment you note:


You can only measure the electron g-factor, where as you can get it from

a metric transformation from the proton strong force equation.

IIs the  strong force equation  magnetliclyderived from  flux compression

What is the equation for the force?

Bob Cook



From: Jürg Wyttenbach<mailto:ju...@datamart.ch>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 3:28 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works


What is a free electron, i.e. as used in an x-ray tube?

Good question!

Live - all the chemistry that forms/carries it - happens between the electron 
and the proton (inside nuclei). So we stay in between.

Physically a free electron behaves like a fat photon with a locked in wave that 
is responsible for its internal charge coupling - hence mass.

As in general relativity you can always find math to explain it differently, 
but this will not change the three only observable of an electron. It's mass, 
magnetic moment and the electron g-factor. Charge is an attribute=axiom. But 
all factors are connected and not fully independent.

But if an electron can be free is questionable as everywhere, there is mass and 
most mass has a magnetic moment, hence there will be interaction.

J.W.
On 26.02.2021 21:41, Robin wrote:

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:05:31 +0100:

Hi,

[snip]

No the electron has no stable strong force radius.



You can only measure the electron g-factor, where as you can get it from

a metric transformation from the proton strong force equation.



Physics will change. More radically as some will like.



J.W.

What is a free electron, i.e. as used in an x-ray tube?



--

Jürg Wyttenbach

Bifangstr. 22

8910 Affoltern am Albis



+41 44 760 14 18

+41 79 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

The electron orbits are (1x1)X(0.5x0.5) as the third wave is split over 
two orbits what one also sees in the electron g-factor.


An electron in resonance with a proton binds with all three waves- The  
(0.5x0.5) interaction shares 1FC orbit with the proton. 1FC orbits are 
virtual charge orbits we also see in spin pairing e.g. in 4-He or in 
nuclear mass forming. The e-p excitation states n=1, n=2 show at two/one 
wave binding. The first "free" electron state is n=3!


3 waves = 3 independent rotation = 4D homogeneous space. That's the 
exterior of SO(4).


J.W.


On 27.02.2021 01:52, Robin wrote:

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Sat, 27 Feb 2021 00:28:36 +0100:
Hi Jürg,

Next question. Can a "fat photon" bind to a proton resonance? IOW are you sure the 
"fat photon" loses it's
identity/internal structure when bound in an atom?



What is a free electron, i.e. as used in an x-ray tube?

Good question!

Live - all the chemistry that forms/carries it - happens between the
electron and the proton (inside nuclei). So we stay in between.

Physically a free electron behaves like a fat photon with a locked in
wave that is responsible for its internal charge coupling - hence mass.

As in general relativity you can always find math to explain it
differently, but this will not change the three only observable of an
electron. It's mass, magnetic moment and the electron g-factor. Charge
is an attribute=axiom. But all factors are connected and not fully
independent.

But if an electron can be free is questionable as everywhere, there is
mass and most mass has a magnetic moment, hence there will be interaction.

J.W.

On 26.02.2021 21:41, Robin wrote:

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:05:31 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]

No the electron has no stable strong force radius.

You can only measure the electron g-factor, where as you can get it from
a metric transformation from the proton strong force equation.

Physics will change. More radically as some will like.

J.W.

What is a free electron, i.e. as used in an x-ray tube?


--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr. 22
8910 Affoltern am Albis

+41 44 760 14 18
+41 79 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Michael Foster]

 Jones, your comment made me laugh out loudGlad someone still has a sense 
of humor in these times.




On Thursday, February 25, 2021, 04:45:27 PM GMT+1, JonesBeene 
 wrote:


 

Could it really be that simple?

 
  

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Robin]

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Sat, 27 Feb 2021 00:28:36 +0100:
Hi Jürg,

Next question. Can a "fat photon" bind to a proton resonance? IOW are you sure 
the "fat photon" loses it's
identity/internal structure when bound in an atom?


>What is a free electron, i.e. as used in an x-ray tube?
>
>Good question!
>
>Live - all the chemistry that forms/carries it - happens between the 
>electron and the proton (inside nuclei). So we stay in between.
>
>Physically a free electron behaves like a fat photon with a locked in 
>wave that is responsible for its internal charge coupling - hence mass.
>
>As in general relativity you can always find math to explain it 
>differently, but this will not change the three only observable of an 
>electron. It's mass, magnetic moment and the electron g-factor. Charge 
>is an attribute=axiom. But all factors are connected and not fully 
>independent.
>
>But if an electron can be free is questionable as everywhere, there is 
>mass and most mass has a magnetic moment, hence there will be interaction.
>
>J.W.
>
>On 26.02.2021 21:41, Robin wrote:
>> In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:05:31 +0100:
>> Hi,
>> [snip]
>>> No the electron has no stable strong force radius.
>>>
>>> You can only measure the electron g-factor, where as you can get it from
>>> a metric transformation from the proton strong force equation.
>>>
>>> Physics will change. More radically as some will like.
>>>
>>> J.W.
>> What is a free electron, i.e. as used in an x-ray tube?
>>

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

What is a free electron, i.e. as used in an x-ray tube?

Good question!

Live - all the chemistry that forms/carries it - happens between the 
electron and the proton (inside nuclei). So we stay in between.


Physically a free electron behaves like a fat photon with a locked in 
wave that is responsible for its internal charge coupling - hence mass.


As in general relativity you can always find math to explain it 
differently, but this will not change the three only observable of an 
electron. It's mass, magnetic moment and the electron g-factor. Charge 
is an attribute=axiom. But all factors are connected and not fully 
independent.


But if an electron can be free is questionable as everywhere, there is 
mass and most mass has a magnetic moment, hence there will be interaction.


J.W.

On 26.02.2021 21:41, Robin wrote:

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:05:31 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]

No the electron has no stable strong force radius.

You can only measure the electron g-factor, where as you can get it from
a metric transformation from the proton strong force equation.

Physics will change. More radically as some will like.

J.W.

What is a free electron, i.e. as used in an x-ray tube?


--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr. 22
8910 Affoltern am Albis

+41 44 760 14 18
+41 79 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Robin]

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:05:31 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
>No the electron has no stable strong force radius.
>
>You can only measure the electron g-factor, where as you can get it from 
>a metric transformation from the proton strong force equation.
>
>Physics will change. More radically as some will like.
>
>J.W.
What is a free electron, i.e. as used in an x-ray tube?

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Axil Axil]

The equation of a Light Leptonic Magnetic Monopole
and its Experimental Aspects
Georges Lochak

Urutskoiev produces a boatload of math that shows in part that the EVO is a
tachyon.

This is a smoking gun for tachyonic condensation which shows in detail the
inner structure of the EVO.

This is the dispersion relation of a *supraluminal particle, a tachyon. *The
wave equations (12.2) seem to be the first ones in which tachyons appear
without any ad hoc condition. These nonlinear equations can be evaluated in
various ways which in detail are described in the papers quoted in the
References, especially [7].


On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 9:46 PM Axil Axil  wrote:

> There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism and
> superconductivity. The historical record provides ample evidence that
> analogies between superconductivity and particle physics played an
> important heuristic role in the development of the Higgs model.
>
> But what has recently hit my hot button was the possibility that this
> analogy may be more than a formal one but actually a physical one. The
> Mexican hat potential and spontaneous symmetry breaking are present in both
> these mechanisms.
>
> It has recently been discovered that irradiating a superconductor with a
> laser will generate polaritons which inherit their Mexican hat potential
> from their superconducting electron feedstock. A highly probable slow light
> mixing cavity  will maximize the light/matter quasiparticle environment
> that surrounds the superconductor.  It has been experimentally verified
> that the  polaritons that are produced by the superconductor will generate
> a tachyonic Higgs field. These quasiparticles are called cavity Higgs
> polaritons.
>
> This serendipity opens up a physical platform where Spontaneous symmetry
> breaking, Bose condensation, the Higgs field, and tachyonic condensation
> open up the door to a realization of the predictions of string theory such
> as black strings and bubbles of metastable AdS space. Generating a
> metastable bubble of AdS  space would enable the possible experimental
> production of topological vortex-like defects such as  the 'tHooft-Polyakov
> monopole. Furthermore, the radius of curvature of anti de Sitter space
> provides an extra length scale that could allow the study of the equations
> of motion in a limit where the masses of the Higgs field and the massive
> vector bosons are both vanishing. This alone might allow the study of how
> matter and forces behave in a new AdS based universe  let alone allow for
> the availability of an experimental platform on which many of the posits of
> string theory can be physically tested in a real world rooted experimental
>  system.
>
> This analogy explains how the Holmlid mechanism works. In the AdS bubble,
> the Higgs field is disabled which allows the black string to convert matter
> to energy. The energy is then transferred to the AdS environment which
> surrounds the black string where matter reforms in a new configuration.
>
> This discussion about tachyon condensation provides theoretical context on
> how an AdS bubble is structured and how that bubble decomposes and reforms
> matter.
>
> https://online.kitp.ucsb.edu/online/chord18/tachycond/rm/jwvideo.html
>

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

No the electron has no stable strong force radius.

You can only measure the electron g-factor, where as you can get it from 
a metric transformation from the proton strong force equation.


Physics will change. More radically as some will like.

J.W.

On 26.02.2021 19:54, Robin wrote:a

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:06:39 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]

The electron is an exact resonance of the proton. We can calculate all
electron properties from the proton properties.

This is how nature works along magnetism.


J.W.

Does that mean you could also calculate all the proton properties from the 
electron?


--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr. 22
8910 Affoltern am Albis

+41 44 760 14 18
+41 79 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Robin]

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:06:39 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
>The electron is an exact resonance of the proton. We can calculate all 
>electron properties from the proton properties.
>
>This is how nature works along magnetism.
>
>
>J.W.

Does that mean you could also calculate all the proton properties from the 
electron?

RE: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Jpones—

I do not consider it is that simple!

Bob Cook

PS:   However  I applaud Axil’s work to simplify the SM.

BC

From: JonesBeene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 7:45 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: RE: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works


Could it really be  that simple?


From: Axil Axil<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>

There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism and superconductivity. 
The historical record provides ample evidence that analogies between 
superconductivity and particle physics played an important heuristic role in 
the development of the Higgs model.

But what has recently hit my hot button was the possibility that this analogy 
may be more than a formal one but actually a physical one. The Mexican hat 
potential and spontaneous symmetry breaking are present in both these 
mechanisms.

It has recently been discovered that irradiating a superconductor with a laser 
will generate polaritons which inherit their Mexican hat potential from their 
superconducting electron feedstock. A highly probable slow light mixing cavity  
will maximize the light/matter quasiparticle environment that surrounds the 
superconductor.  It has been experimentally verified that the  polaritons that 
are produced by the superconductor will generate a tachyonic Higgs field. These 
quasiparticles are called cavity Higgs polaritons.

This serendipity opens up a physical platform where Spontaneous symmetry 
breaking, Bose condensation, the Higgs field, and tachyonic condensation open 
up the door to a realization of the predictions of string theory such as black 
strings and bubbles of metastable AdS space. Generating a metastable bubble of 
AdS  space would enable the possible experimental production of topological 
vortex-like defects such as  the 'tHooft-Polyakov monopole. Furthermore, the 
radius of curvature of anti de Sitter space provides an extra length scale that 
could allow the study of the equations of motion in a limit where the masses of 
the Higgs field and the massive vector bosons are both vanishing. This alone 
might allow the study of how matter and forces behave in a new AdS based 
universe  let alone allow for the availability of an experimental platform on 
which many of the posits of string theory can be physically tested in a real 
world rooted experimental  system.

This analogy explains how the Holmlid mechanism works. In the AdS bubble, the 
Higgs field is disabled which allows the black string to convert matter to 
energy. The energy is then transferred to the AdS environment which surrounds 
the black string where matter reforms in a new configuration.

This discussion about tachyon condensation provides theoretical context on how 
an AdS bubble is structured and how that bubble decomposes and reforms matter.

https://online.kitp.ucsb.edu/online/chord18/tachycond/rm/jwvideo.html

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

The electron is an exact resonance of the proton. We can calculate all 
electron properties from the proton properties.


This is how nature works along magnetism.


J.W.

On 26.02.2021 08:20, Robin wrote:

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:49:49 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]

All particles we know are resonances of the proton.

Don't you think a free electron is a bit light weight to be a proton resonance?

Maybe structures other than protons are also possible?


--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr. 22
8910 Affoltern am Albis

+41 44 760 14 18
+41 79 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Robin]

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:49:49 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
>All particles we know are resonances of the proton. 

Don't you think a free electron is a bit light weight to be a proton resonance?

Maybe structures other than protons are also possible?

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

All particles we know are resonances of the proton. CERN accelerates 
protons. What else do you think??


You need 53MeV to resonantly split a proton. This can be calculated with 
secondary school  math. Nothing comes out of pure energy -  may be wet 
dreams.


Pure energy has no structure. Please explain why a sudden structure 
should form out!!


J.W.

On 26.02.2021 01:18, Axil Axil wrote:
The generation of strange quarks implies that extreme energy 
production beyond what nuclear binding energy is capable of 
providing is occuring.


The energy production levels of an accelerator is more likely to be 
occurring. The mesons are being formed from a source of pure energy 
and lots of it.


On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 7:10 PM Jürg Wyttenbach > wrote:


Axil:

Quarks are non existent particles. They are just a mathematical
representation of the external coupling field.

Real fusion - not chaotic random kinetic events - *happens at rest
*due to magnetic resonance. The progress of LENR is outpacing
everything you believe to know and we now know how it works!

In fact Holmlid has a problem because he uses "bulk" H*-H* that
forms large hexagonal clusters like graphen. This is the  reason
why he never could properly measure the binding force of the
second electron (495eV), the first is 4.3 eV as seen in Rydberg
matter. So all his papers contain wrong data due to collective
effects of long range coupling of the super conducting H*_n cluster.

Holmlids muon energy is 120MeV Kaons have a natural mass of close
to 500MeV! Nothing special as he does the same as CERN with a  few
$$.. instead of billions.

J.W.

On 26.02.2021 00:53, Axil Axil wrote:

Holmlid produces meson that contain strange quarks that
yield energy exceeding 500 MeV. Your scenario does not account
for that level of energy production,

"Relativistic charged particles with velocity up to 500 MeV
u-1 thus 0.75 /c/ are observed. Characteristic decay time
constants for meson decay are observed, for charged and neutral
kaons and also for charged pions."
kaons are composed of strange quarks.

However, ordinary D+D fusion reactions only give an energy up to
3.0 MeV u-1 in the first reaction step, and up to 14.7 MeV u-1 in
the second step of the reactions. Thus, other nuclear processes
take place. The ejected mass is here found by magnetic deflection
to be less than unity but much larger than the electron mass. At
least two different masses are observed, which agrees with the
particles being light mesons. The particle decay times observed
agree very well with this conclusion.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 6:17 PM Jürg Wyttenbach
mailto:ju...@datamart.ch>> wrote:

We all know the fairy tales of good old standard model,
created from mathematicians stranded in physics like Dirac-
that never did take basic mechanics lessons.

All their fantasies are on the same level as the "endless
story" (M.Ende) something children like.

The Holmlid mechanism is simple to explain if you can follow
SO(4) physics. Holmlid sees the reaction 9H --> 2 4-He + K^o
K^+ that later decay into Pions muon. The above is the most
easy to explain and it of course ends standard model reasoning.

Holmlid forms (fuses) 4-He from protons alone. This is also
the result of SO(4) modelling.4-He contains no neutron
structure. This is also confirmed from the 4-He spectrum as
you need at least to add 20.1 MeV to fragment 4-He = to
induce a particle substructure. For carbon this limit is
16.1MeV for proton and 18.1 for a neutron. So most N=Z nuclei
have no neutron substructure.

As Holmlid did measure 4-He almost 10 years ago already, some
people might have overlooked it. But Holmlid wants to publish
and aneutronic fusion is a no go to get a placement in a good
journal.

So drink a Whyskey - Higgs

J.W.


On 25.02.2021 22:08, Axil Axil wrote:

As per Keith Fredericks and others, the fact that the
superconducting particle is tachyonic is what makes the
explanation so complicated. There is only one tachyonic
field so far discovered and that is the Higgs field.
Tachyonic condensation is a string theory subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRKblAn8lLI


On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:45 AM JonesBeene
mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:

Could it really be  that simple?

*From: *Axil Axil 

**

There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism
and superconductivity. The historical record provides
ample evidence that analogies between superconductivity
 

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Axil Axil]

The generation of strange quarks implies that extreme energy production
beyond what nuclear binding energy is capable of providing is occuring.

The energy production levels of an accelerator is more likely to be
occurring. The mesons are being formed from a source of pure energy and
lots of it.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 7:10 PM Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:

> Axil:
>
> Quarks are non existent particles. They are just a mathematical
> representation of the external coupling field.
>
> Real fusion - not chaotic random kinetic events - *happens at rest *due
> to magnetic resonance. The progress of LENR is outpacing everything you
> believe to know and we now know how it works!
>
> In fact Holmlid has a problem because he uses "bulk" H*-H* that forms
> large hexagonal clusters like graphen. This is the  reason why he never
> could properly measure the binding force of the second electron (495eV),
> the first is 4.3 eV as seen in Rydberg matter. So all his papers contain
> wrong data due to collective effects of long range coupling of the super
> conducting H*n cluster.
>
> Holmlids muon energy is 120MeV Kaons have a natural mass of close to
> 500MeV! Nothing special as he does the same as CERN with a  few $$..
> instead of billions.
>
> J.W.
> On 26.02.2021 00:53, Axil Axil wrote:
>
> Holmlid produces meson that contain strange quarks that yield energy
> exceeding 500 MeV. Your scenario does not account for that level of energy
> production,
>
> "Relativistic charged particles with velocity up to 500 MeV u-1 thus 0.75
> *c* are observed. Characteristic decay time constants for meson decay are
> observed, for charged and neutral kaons and also for charged pions."
>
> kaons are composed of strange quarks.
>
> However, ordinary D+D fusion reactions only give an energy up to 3.0 MeV u
> -1 in the first reaction step, and up to 14.7 MeV u-1 in the second step
> of the reactions. Thus, other nuclear processes take place. The ejected
> mass is here found by magnetic deflection to be less than unity but much
> larger than the electron mass. At least two different masses are observed,
> which agrees with the particles being light mesons. The particle decay
> times observed agree very well with this conclusion.
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 6:17 PM Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:
>
>> We all know the fairy tales of good old standard model, created from
>> mathematicians stranded in physics like Dirac- that never did take basic
>> mechanics lessons.
>>
>> All their fantasies are on the same level as the "endless story" (M.Ende)
>> something children like.
>>
>> The Holmlid mechanism is simple to explain if you can follow SO(4)
>> physics. Holmlid sees the reaction 9H --> 2 4-He + Ko K+ that later
>> decay into Pions muon. The above is the most easy to explain and it of
>> course ends standard model reasoning.
>>
>> Holmlid forms (fuses) 4-He from protons alone. This is also the result of
>> SO(4) modelling.4-He contains no neutron structure. This is also confirmed
>> from the 4-He spectrum as you need at least to add 20.1 MeV to fragment
>> 4-He = to induce a particle substructure. For carbon this limit is 16.1MeV
>> for proton and 18.1 for a neutron. So most N=Z nuclei have no neutron
>> substructure.
>>
>> As Holmlid did measure 4-He almost 10 years ago already, some people
>> might have overlooked it. But Holmlid wants to publish and aneutronic
>> fusion is a no go to get a placement in a good journal.
>>
>> So drink a Whyskey - Higgs
>>
>> J.W.
>>
>>
>> On 25.02.2021 22:08, Axil Axil wrote:
>>
>> As per Keith Fredericks and others, the fact that the superconducting
>> particle is tachyonic is what makes the explanation so complicated. There
>> is only one tachyonic field so far discovered and that is the Higgs field.
>> Tachyonic condensation is a string theory subject.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRKblAn8lLI
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:45 AM JonesBeene  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Could it really be  that simple?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Axil Axil 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism and
>>> superconductivity. The historical record provides ample evidence that
>>> analogies between superconductivity and particle physics played an
>>> important heuristic role in the development of the Higgs model.
>>>
>>> But what has recently hit my hot button was the possibility that this
>>> analogy may be more than a formal one but actually a physical one. The
>>> Mexican hat potential and spontaneous symmetry breaking are present in both
>>> these mechanisms.
>>>
>>> It has recently been discovered that irradiating a superconductor with a
>>> laser will generate polaritons which inherit their Mexican hat potential
>>> from their superconducting electron feedstock. A highly probable slow light
>>> mixing cavity  will maximize the light/matter quasiparticle environment
>>> that surrounds the superconductor.  It has been experimentally verified
>>> that the  polaritons that are produced by the 

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

Axil:

Quarks are non existent particles. They are just a mathematical 
representation of the external coupling field.


Real fusion - not chaotic random kinetic events - *happens at rest *due 
to magnetic resonance. The progress of LENR is outpacing everything you 
believe to know and we now know how it works!


In fact Holmlid has a problem because he uses "bulk" H*-H* that forms 
large hexagonal clusters like graphen. This is the  reason why he never 
could properly measure the binding force of the second electron (495eV), 
the first is 4.3 eV as seen in Rydberg matter. So all his papers contain 
wrong data due to collective effects of long range coupling of the super 
conducting H*_n cluster.


Holmlids muon energy is 120MeV Kaons have a natural mass of close to 
500MeV! Nothing special as he does the same as CERN with a  few $$.. 
instead of billions.


J.W.

On 26.02.2021 00:53, Axil Axil wrote:
Holmlid produces meson that contain strange quarks that yield energy 
exceeding 500 MeV. Your scenario does not account for that level of 
energy production,


"Relativistic charged particles with velocity up to 500 MeV u-1 thus 
0.75 /c/ are observed. Characteristic decay time constants for meson 
decay are observed, for charged and neutral kaons and also for charged 
pions."

kaons are composed of strange quarks.

However, ordinary D+D fusion reactions only give an energy up to 3.0 
MeV u-1 in the first reaction step, and up to 14.7 MeV u-1 in the 
second step of the reactions. Thus, other nuclear processes take 
place. The ejected mass is here found by magnetic deflection to be 
less than unity but much larger than the electron mass. At least two 
different masses are observed, which agrees with the particles being 
light mesons. The particle decay times observed agree very well with 
this conclusion.


On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 6:17 PM Jürg Wyttenbach > wrote:


We all know the fairy tales of good old standard model, created
from mathematicians stranded in physics like Dirac- that never did
take basic mechanics lessons.

All their fantasies are on the same level as the "endless story"
(M.Ende) something children like.

The Holmlid mechanism is simple to explain if you can follow SO(4)
physics. Holmlid sees the reaction 9H --> 2 4-He + K^o K^+ that
later decay into Pions muon. The above is the most easy to explain
and it of course ends standard model reasoning.

Holmlid forms (fuses) 4-He from protons alone. This is also the
result of SO(4) modelling.4-He contains no neutron structure. This
is also confirmed from the 4-He spectrum as you need at least to
add 20.1 MeV to fragment 4-He = to induce a particle substructure.
For carbon this limit is 16.1MeV for proton and 18.1 for a
neutron. So most N=Z nuclei have no neutron substructure.

As Holmlid did measure 4-He almost 10 years ago already, some
people might have overlooked it. But Holmlid wants to publish and
aneutronic fusion is a no go to get a placement in a good journal.

So drink a Whyskey - Higgs

J.W.


On 25.02.2021 22:08, Axil Axil wrote:

As per Keith Fredericks and others, the fact that the
superconducting particle is tachyonic is what makes the
explanation so complicated. There is only one tachyonic field so
far discovered and that is the Higgs field. Tachyonic
condensation is a string theory subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRKblAn8lLI


On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:45 AM JonesBeene mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:

Could it really be  that simple?

*From: *Axil Axil 

**

There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism and
superconductivity. The historical record provides ample
evidence that analogies between superconductivity and
particle physics played an important heuristic role in the
development of the Higgs model.

But what has recently hit my hot button was the possibility
that this analogy may be more than a formal one but actually
a physical one. The Mexican hat potential and spontaneous
symmetry breaking are present in both these mechanisms.

It has recently been discovered that irradiating a
superconductor with a laser will generate polaritons which
inherit their Mexican hat potential from their
superconducting electron feedstock. A highly probable slow
light mixing cavity  will maximize the light/matter
quasiparticle environment that surrounds the superconductor. 
It has been experimentally verified that the  polaritons that
are produced by the superconductor will generate a tachyonic
Higgs field. These quasiparticles are called cavity Higgs
polaritons.

This serendipity opens up a physical platform where

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Axil Axil]

Holmlid produces meson that contain strange quarks that yield energy
exceeding 500 MeV. Your scenario does not account for that level of energy
production,

"Relativistic charged particles with velocity up to 500 MeV u-1 thus 0.75
*c* are observed. Characteristic decay time constants for meson decay are
observed, for charged and neutral kaons and also for charged pions."

kaons are composed of strange quarks.

However, ordinary D+D fusion reactions only give an energy up to 3.0 MeV u-1 in
the first reaction step, and up to 14.7 MeV u-1 in the second step of the
reactions. Thus, other nuclear processes take place. The ejected mass is
here found by magnetic deflection to be less than unity but much larger
than the electron mass. At least two different masses are observed, which
agrees with the particles being light mesons. The particle decay times
observed agree very well with this conclusion.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 6:17 PM Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:

> We all know the fairy tales of good old standard model, created from
> mathematicians stranded in physics like Dirac- that never did take basic
> mechanics lessons.
>
> All their fantasies are on the same level as the "endless story" (M.Ende)
> something children like.
>
> The Holmlid mechanism is simple to explain if you can follow SO(4)
> physics. Holmlid sees the reaction 9H --> 2 4-He + Ko K+ that later decay
> into Pions muon. The above is the most easy to explain and it of course
> ends standard model reasoning.
>
> Holmlid forms (fuses) 4-He from protons alone. This is also the result of
> SO(4) modelling.4-He contains no neutron structure. This is also confirmed
> from the 4-He spectrum as you need at least to add 20.1 MeV to fragment
> 4-He = to induce a particle substructure. For carbon this limit is 16.1MeV
> for proton and 18.1 for a neutron. So most N=Z nuclei have no neutron
> substructure.
>
> As Holmlid did measure 4-He almost 10 years ago already, some people might
> have overlooked it. But Holmlid wants to publish and aneutronic fusion is a
> no go to get a placement in a good journal.
>
> So drink a Whyskey - Higgs
>
> J.W.
>
>
> On 25.02.2021 22:08, Axil Axil wrote:
>
> As per Keith Fredericks and others, the fact that the superconducting
> particle is tachyonic is what makes the explanation so complicated. There
> is only one tachyonic field so far discovered and that is the Higgs field.
> Tachyonic condensation is a string theory subject.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRKblAn8lLI
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:45 AM JonesBeene  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Could it really be  that simple?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Axil Axil 
>>
>>
>>
>> There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism and
>> superconductivity. The historical record provides ample evidence that
>> analogies between superconductivity and particle physics played an
>> important heuristic role in the development of the Higgs model.
>>
>> But what has recently hit my hot button was the possibility that this
>> analogy may be more than a formal one but actually a physical one. The
>> Mexican hat potential and spontaneous symmetry breaking are present in both
>> these mechanisms.
>>
>> It has recently been discovered that irradiating a superconductor with a
>> laser will generate polaritons which inherit their Mexican hat potential
>> from their superconducting electron feedstock. A highly probable slow light
>> mixing cavity  will maximize the light/matter quasiparticle environment
>> that surrounds the superconductor.  It has been experimentally verified
>> that the  polaritons that are produced by the superconductor will generate
>> a tachyonic Higgs field. These quasiparticles are called cavity Higgs
>> polaritons.
>>
>> This serendipity opens up a physical platform where Spontaneous symmetry
>> breaking, Bose condensation, the Higgs field, and tachyonic condensation
>> open up the door to a realization of the predictions of string theory such
>> as black strings and bubbles of metastable AdS space. Generating a
>> metastable bubble of AdS  space would enable the possible experimental
>> production of topological vortex-like defects such as  the 'tHooft-Polyakov
>> monopole. Furthermore, the radius of curvature of anti de Sitter space
>> provides an extra length scale that could allow the study of the equations
>> of motion in a limit where the masses of the Higgs field and the massive
>> vector bosons are both vanishing. This alone might allow the study of how
>> matter and forces behave in a new AdS based universe  let alone allow for
>> the availability of an experimental platform on which many of the posits of
>> string theory can be physically tested in a real world rooted experimental
>>  system.
>>
>> This analogy explains how the Holmlid mechanism works. In the AdS bubble,
>> the Higgs field is disabled which allows the black string to convert matter
>> to energy. The energy is then transferred to the AdS environment which
>> surrounds the black string where matter 

Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

We all know the fairy tales of good old standard model, created from 
mathematicians stranded in physics like Dirac- that never did take basic 
mechanics lessons.


All their fantasies are on the same level as the "endless story" 
(M.Ende) something children like.


The Holmlid mechanism is simple to explain if you can follow SO(4) 
physics. Holmlid sees the reaction 9H --> 2 4-He + K^o K^+ that later 
decay into Pions muon. The above is the most easy to explain and it of 
course ends standard model reasoning.


Holmlid forms (fuses) 4-He from protons alone. This is also the result 
of SO(4) modelling.4-He contains no neutron structure. This is also 
confirmed from the 4-He spectrum as you need at least to add 20.1 MeV to 
fragment 4-He = to induce a particle substructure. For carbon this limit 
is 16.1MeV for proton and 18.1 for a neutron. So most N=Z nuclei have no 
neutron substructure.


As Holmlid did measure 4-He almost 10 years ago already, some people 
might have overlooked it. But Holmlid wants to publish and aneutronic 
fusion is a no go to get a placement in a good journal.


So drink a Whyskey - Higgs

J.W.


On 25.02.2021 22:08, Axil Axil wrote:
As per Keith Fredericks and others, the fact that the superconducting 
particle is tachyonic is what makes the explanation so complicated. 
There is only one tachyonic field so far discovered and that is the 
Higgs field. Tachyonic condensation is a string theory subject.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRKblAn8lLI 



On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:45 AM JonesBeene > wrote:


Could it really be  that simple?

*From: *Axil Axil 

**

There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism and
superconductivity. The historical record provides ample evidence
that analogies between superconductivity and particle physics
played an important heuristic role in the development of the Higgs
model.

But what has recently hit my hot button was the possibility that
this analogy may be more than a formal one but actually a physical
one. The Mexican hat potential and spontaneous symmetry breaking
are present in both these mechanisms.

It has recently been discovered that irradiating a superconductor
with a laser will generate polaritons which inherit their Mexican
hat potential from their superconducting electron feedstock. A
highly probable slow light mixing cavity  will maximize the
light/matter quasiparticle environment that surrounds the
superconductor.  It has been experimentally verified that the
 polaritons that are produced by the superconductor will generate
a tachyonic Higgs field. These quasiparticles are called cavity
Higgs polaritons.

This serendipity opens up a physical platform where Spontaneous
symmetry breaking, Bose condensation, the Higgs field, and
tachyonic condensation open up the door to a realization of the
predictions of string theory such as black strings and bubbles of
metastable AdS space. Generating a metastable bubble of AdS  space
would enable the possible experimental production of topological
vortex-like defects such as  the 'tHooft-Polyakov monopole.
Furthermore, the radius of curvature of anti de Sitter space
provides an extra length scale that could allow the study of the
equations of motion in a limit where the masses of the Higgs field
and the massive vector bosons are both vanishing. This alone might
allow the study of how matter and forces behave in a new AdS based
universe  let alone allow for the availability of an experimental
platform on which many of the posits of string theory can be
physically tested in a real world rooted experimental  system.

This analogy explains how the Holmlid mechanism works. In the AdS
bubble, the Higgs field is disabled which allows the black string
to convert matter to energy. The energy is then transferred to the
AdS environment which surrounds the black string where matter
reforms in a new configuration.

This discussion about tachyon condensation provides theoretical
context on how an AdS bubble is structured and how that bubble
decomposes and reforms matter.

https://online.kitp.ucsb.edu/online/chord18/tachycond/rm/jwvideo.html



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Re: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[Axil Axil]

As per Keith Fredericks and others, the fact that the superconducting
particle is tachyonic is what makes the explanation so complicated. There
is only one tachyonic field so far discovered and that is the Higgs field.
Tachyonic condensation is a string theory subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRKblAn8lLI

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:45 AM JonesBeene  wrote:

>
>
> Could it really be  that simple?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Axil Axil 
>
>
>
> There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism and
> superconductivity. The historical record provides ample evidence that
> analogies between superconductivity and particle physics played an
> important heuristic role in the development of the Higgs model.
>
> But what has recently hit my hot button was the possibility that this
> analogy may be more than a formal one but actually a physical one. The
> Mexican hat potential and spontaneous symmetry breaking are present in both
> these mechanisms.
>
> It has recently been discovered that irradiating a superconductor with a
> laser will generate polaritons which inherit their Mexican hat potential
> from their superconducting electron feedstock. A highly probable slow light
> mixing cavity  will maximize the light/matter quasiparticle environment
> that surrounds the superconductor.  It has been experimentally verified
> that the  polaritons that are produced by the superconductor will generate
> a tachyonic Higgs field. These quasiparticles are called cavity Higgs
> polaritons.
>
> This serendipity opens up a physical platform where Spontaneous symmetry
> breaking, Bose condensation, the Higgs field, and tachyonic condensation
> open up the door to a realization of the predictions of string theory such
> as black strings and bubbles of metastable AdS space. Generating a
> metastable bubble of AdS  space would enable the possible experimental
> production of topological vortex-like defects such as  the 'tHooft-Polyakov
> monopole. Furthermore, the radius of curvature of anti de Sitter space
> provides an extra length scale that could allow the study of the equations
> of motion in a limit where the masses of the Higgs field and the massive
> vector bosons are both vanishing. This alone might allow the study of how
> matter and forces behave in a new AdS based universe  let alone allow for
> the availability of an experimental platform on which many of the posits of
> string theory can be physically tested in a real world rooted experimental
>  system.
>
> This analogy explains how the Holmlid mechanism works. In the AdS bubble,
> the Higgs field is disabled which allows the black string to convert matter
> to energy. The energy is then transferred to the AdS environment which
> surrounds the black string where matter reforms in a new configuration.
>
> This discussion about tachyon condensation provides theoretical context on
> how an AdS bubble is structured and how that bubble decomposes and reforms
> matter.
>
> https://online.kitp.ucsb.edu/online/chord18/tachycond/rm/jwvideo.html
>
>
>

RE: [Vo]:How the Holmlid mechanism works

[JonesBeene]

Could it really be  that simple?


From: Axil Axil

There is a formal analogy between the Higgs mechanism and superconductivity. 
The historical record provides ample evidence that analogies between 
superconductivity and particle physics played an important heuristic role in 
the development of the Higgs model.

But what has recently hit my hot button was the possibility that this analogy 
may be more than a formal one but actually a physical one. The Mexican hat 
potential and spontaneous symmetry breaking are present in both these 
mechanisms.
 
It has recently been discovered that irradiating a superconductor with a laser 
will generate polaritons which inherit their Mexican hat potential from their 
superconducting electron feedstock. A highly probable slow light mixing cavity  
will maximize the light/matter quasiparticle environment that surrounds the 
superconductor.  It has been experimentally verified that the  polaritons that 
are produced by the superconductor will generate a tachyonic Higgs field. These 
quasiparticles are called cavity Higgs polaritons.

This serendipity opens up a physical platform where Spontaneous symmetry 
breaking, Bose condensation, the Higgs field, and tachyonic condensation open 
up the door to a realization of the predictions of string theory such as black 
strings and bubbles of metastable AdS space. Generating a metastable bubble of 
AdS  space would enable the possible experimental production of topological 
vortex-like defects such as  the 'tHooft-Polyakov monopole. Furthermore, the 
radius of curvature of anti de Sitter space provides an extra length scale that 
could allow the study of the equations of motion in a limit where the masses of 
the Higgs field and the massive vector bosons are both vanishing. This alone 
might allow the study of how matter and forces behave in a new AdS based 
universe  let alone allow for the availability of an experimental platform on 
which many of the posits of string theory can be physically tested in a real 
world rooted experimental  system.

This analogy explains how the Holmlid mechanism works. In the AdS bubble, the 
Higgs field is disabled which allows the black string to convert matter to 
energy. The energy is then transferred to the AdS environment which surrounds 
the black string where matter reforms in a new configuration.

This discussion about tachyon condensation provides theoretical context on how 
an AdS bubble is structured and how that bubble decomposes and reforms matter.

https://online.kitp.ucsb.edu/online/chord18/tachycond/rm/jwvideo.html