Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Real time bus schedule

2009-04-16 Thread Terry Blanton
Yeah, we have a system here at MARTA.  It's not public however.  The
infrastructure of 2-way radios for position reporting also supports
police, operations and maintenance communications with push-to-talk;
but, it cost many millions using 800 MHz trunked radios.

I contend that 3G cellular using mobile routers is far more cost
effective than a dedicated infrastructure for position reporting only.
 And it's easy to distribute to the public if you're using Google.

Terry

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:50 PM, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 From Terry:

 Maybe they should use google also like Boston.

 I talked to one of our techies. There may be financial issues.
 Google's version is certainly better presented, but in the longer run
 it may turn out not to be as cheap to implement or maintain. I noticed
 Madison's version appears to update itself every 30 or 60 seconds.
 Very odd.  Not a consistent recycling. It works, but obviously the
 updates aren't as timely as the Boston version.

 Regards
 Steven Vincent Johnson
 www.OrionWorks.com
 www.zazzle.com/orionworks





Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Real time bus schedule

2009-04-15 Thread OrionWorks
From Jed:

 My daughter who lives in Boston sent me this link to a local bus company
 that shows where its buses are in real time, on the map:

 http://masco.transloc.com/

 This is the kind of thing that could have been done years ago but no one
 thought to do it. In retrospect it is an obvious application of internet and
 GPS technology: easy and cheap to implement and useful to the customers. I
 expect the bus company has been tracking its drivers for a long time,
 although I was surprised to find the other day that a local FedEx truck was
 not equipped with a GPS map.

 Many technical problems can be solved more easily than people realize. Often
 the hardest part is to convince people to try something new.

 - Jed

As a DOT employee for the state of Wisconsin I found this link
informative. Thanks Jed. I passed it on. (It was fun to watch, too!)

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Real time bus schedule

2009-04-15 Thread OrionWorks
 From Jed:

 My daughter who lives in Boston sent me this link to a local bus company
 that shows where its buses are in real time, on the map:

 http://masco.transloc.com/

 This is the kind of thing that could have been done years ago but no one
 thought to do it. In retrospect it is an obvious application of internet and
 GPS technology: easy and cheap to implement and useful to the customers. I
 expect the bus company has been tracking its drivers for a long time,
 although I was surprised to find the other day that a local FedEx truck was
 not equipped with a GPS map.

 Many technical problems can be solved more easily than people realize. Often
 the hardest part is to convince people to try something new.

 - Jed

 As a DOT employee for the state of Wisconsin I found this link
 informative. Thanks Jed. I passed it on. (It was fun to watch, too!)

I did make some inquiries. Turns out Madison does have their own
on-line bus tracker version.

http://www.cityofmadison.com/metro/TransitTracker/TransitTracker.html

Click on the View Live Map link.

It isn't as slick as the Boston Tracker however.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Real time bus schedule

2009-04-15 Thread leaking pen
I know the bus system here in phoenix has been equipped with gps for a
while.  one of the uses is an automated, you are approaching X street
announcement over the pa system that tags when you reach certain
spots.  THEY have the live tracking, but they havent given it
publicly.  sigh.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
 My daughter who lives in Boston sent me this link to a local bus company
 that shows where its buses are in real time, on the map:

 http://masco.transloc.com/

 This is the kind of thing that could have been done years ago but no one
 thought to do it. In retrospect it is an obvious application of internet and
 GPS technology: easy and cheap to implement and useful to the customers. I
 expect the bus company has been tracking its drivers for a long time,
 although I was surprised to find the other day that a local FedEx truck was
 not equipped with a GPS map.

 Many technical problems can be solved more easily than people realize. Often
 the hardest part is to convince people to try something new.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Real time bus schedule

2009-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
Maybe they should use google also like Boston.

Terry

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:32 PM, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 From Jed:

 My daughter who lives in Boston sent me this link to a local bus company
 that shows where its buses are in real time, on the map:

 http://masco.transloc.com/

 This is the kind of thing that could have been done years ago but no one
 thought to do it. In retrospect it is an obvious application of internet and
 GPS technology: easy and cheap to implement and useful to the customers. I
 expect the bus company has been tracking its drivers for a long time,
 although I was surprised to find the other day that a local FedEx truck was
 not equipped with a GPS map.

 Many technical problems can be solved more easily than people realize. Often
 the hardest part is to convince people to try something new.

 - Jed

 As a DOT employee for the state of Wisconsin I found this link
 informative. Thanks Jed. I passed it on. (It was fun to watch, too!)

 I did make some inquiries. Turns out Madison does have their own
 on-line bus tracker version.

 http://www.cityofmadison.com/metro/TransitTracker/TransitTracker.html

 Click on the View Live Map link.

 It isn't as slick as the Boston Tracker however.

 Regards
 Steven Vincent Johnson
 www.OrionWorks.com
 www.zazzle.com/orionworks





Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Real time bus schedule

2009-04-15 Thread OrionWorks
From Terry:

 Maybe they should use google also like Boston.

I talked to one of our techies. There may be financial issues.
Google's version is certainly better presented, but in the longer run
it may turn out not to be as cheap to implement or maintain. I noticed
Madison's version appears to update itself every 30 or 60 seconds.
Very odd.  Not a consistent recycling. It works, but obviously the
updates aren't as timely as the Boston version.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks