Re: [Vo]:Sunspots, hurricanes and dense hydrogen

[ChemE Stewart]

The model I am trying to fit to our "weather disturbances" is based upon an
unstable vacuum and "Branes" emerging/decaying in our local space
time/atmosphere, which could also provide the warpage of space time
required for emergent gravity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall–Sundrum_model

That would imply gravity is emergent via an increase in entropy in our
local space time and our weather is a byproduct of the inflation and decay
of that entropy from "compactified" extra dimensions.  You would have to
increase the entropy of a gas ~ 5e14 BTUs/Deg R to condense 33 trillion
gallons of water: dS=dQ/T. A hurricane may actually be a vacuum manifold.

One way to increase the condensing power of a gas(the atmosphere) might be
to cool it by expanding it through inflation.  Our largest weather
disturbances happen along "cold fronts" and "eyewalls" which fits that
thinking.

Sunspots travel in a similar trajectory to hurricanes on Earth.  Maybe they
are also emerging, higher energy, higher dimensional Branes also following
a geodesic

The entropy of a black hole is measured by its surface area, therefore I
would look along the eye walls of hurricanes and the outer
bands/disturbances for "cold dark matter" which might be a "gauge field"
from the primary "particle"

https://arxiv.org/abs/1505.03716

This would imply the whole damn place is decaying, including space time.

Branes bring rain...

Also lots of lensing in the atmosphere before hurricanes
https://petapixel.com/2012/11/01/amazing-photo-of-ice-halos-captured-in-the-wake-of-hurricane-sandy/

The ice is from the extreme condensing along the vacuum manifold

I spend a lot of time stuck in Atlanta traffic thinking about this..

Be safe


On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 6:38 PM ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> -Massive Vacuum Condensing of water in the Atmosphere
> -Massive Vacuum Evaporation of water over the Ocean
> -Electromagnetic Discharge, which is known to occur before/during
> earthquakes
> -A sudden, extreme increase in Entropy surrounding the Disturbance such as
> demolished cities, forests
>
> Maybe the Vacuum of Spacetime is Unstable...
>
> Which could explain the ongoing inflation of spacetime and a continual
> increase in Entropy in our surroundings
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1212.1087
>
> Maybe a "Hurricane" is actually triggered by Massive Compact Halo Object(s)
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_compact_halo_object
>
> Maybe the eye wall is actually a vacuum horizon/domain wall...
>
> Maybe the tornadoes and waterspouts and microbursts and bands around the
> primary disturbance are actually signs of quantum decoherence superposition
> of the vacuum as it decays.
>
> If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, maybe it is a duck sorta
> thing...
>
> Something to think about as it bears down us in Georgia...
>
> Nature is amazing
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 6:07 PM Adrian Ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Stewart,
>> What was your point?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com>
>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 5:15 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sunspots, hurricanes and dense hydrogen
>>
>> Hurricane Harvey condensed 33 trillion gallons of water over land.  In
>> industry you would pull a vacuum in a LARGE surface condenser with LOTS of
>> surface area and the ability to remove LOTS of heat to sustain the VACUUM
>> for condensing to continue.
>>
>>
>> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/08/30/harvey-has-unloaded-24-5-trillion-gallons-of-water-on-texas-and-louisiana/
>>
>> Just saying
>>
>>
>>

Re: [Vo]:Sunspots, hurricanes and dense hydrogen

[ChemE Stewart]

-Massive Vacuum Condensing of water in the Atmosphere
-Massive Vacuum Evaporation of water over the Ocean
-Electromagnetic Discharge, which is known to occur before/during
earthquakes
-A sudden, extreme increase in Entropy surrounding the Disturbance such as
demolished cities, forests

Maybe the Vacuum of Spacetime is Unstable...

Which could explain the ongoing inflation of spacetime and a continual
increase in Entropy in our surroundings
https://arxiv.org/abs/1212.1087

Maybe a "Hurricane" is actually triggered by Massive Compact Halo Object(s)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_compact_halo_object

Maybe the eye wall is actually a vacuum horizon/domain wall...

Maybe the tornadoes and waterspouts and microbursts and bands around the
primary disturbance are actually signs of quantum decoherence superposition
of the vacuum as it decays.

If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, maybe it is a duck sorta thing...

Something to think about as it bears down us in Georgia...

Nature is amazing

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 6:07 PM Adrian Ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> Stewart,
> What was your point?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 5:15 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sunspots, hurricanes and dense hydrogen
>
> Hurricane Harvey condensed 33 trillion gallons of water over land.  In
> industry you would pull a vacuum in a LARGE surface condenser with LOTS of
> surface area and the ability to remove LOTS of heat to sustain the VACUUM
> for condensing to continue.
>
>
> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/08/30/harvey-has-unloaded-24-5-trillion-gallons-of-water-on-texas-and-louisiana/
>
> Just saying
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Sunspots, hurricanes and dense hydrogen

[Adrian Ashfield]

Stewart,
What was your point?

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sunspots, hurricanes and dense hydrogen



Hurricane Harvey condensed 33 trillion gallons of water over land.  In industry 
you would pull a vacuum in a LARGE surface condenser with LOTS of surface area 
and the ability to remove LOTS of heat to sustain the VACUUM for condensing to 
continue.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/08/30/harvey-has-unloaded-24-5-trillion-gallons-of-water-on-texas-and-louisiana/



Just saying

Re: [Vo]:Sunspots, hurricanes and dense hydrogen

[Jed Rothwell]

ChemE Stewart  wrote:

Hurricane Harvey condensed 33 trillion gallons of water over land.
>

According to the JPL, this pushed the earth's surface down by 2 cm over an
area larger than the city of Houston. See:

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/09/hurricane-harvey-deformed-the-earths-crust-around-houston/538866/

It is astounding they can measure such small changes.

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Sunspots, hurricanes and dense hydrogen

[ChemE Stewart]

Hurricane Harvey condensed 33 trillion gallons of water over land.  In
industry you would pull a vacuum in a LARGE surface condenser with LOTS of
surface area and the ability to remove LOTS of heat to sustain the VACUUM
for condensing to continue.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/08/30/harvey-has-unloaded-24-5-trillion-gallons-of-water-on-texas-and-louisiana/

Just saying



On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 4:44 PM Adrian Ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> AXIL,
> I think Svensmark was the dirt to come up with this theory and he made a
> good video describing it here:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANMTPF1blpQ
> (You can skip the first 2:20 of pretty pictures)
>
> The source of hurricanes seems to be a combination of a cooler upper
> atmosphere and warmer sea surface.  The temperature difference drives the
> formation.  It's not just warmer water.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 2:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sunspots, hurricanes and dense hydrogen
>
> Reference:
>
> Enhancement of cloud formation by droplet charging
> rspa.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/royprsa/464/2098/2561.full.pdf
>
> Shea & Smart (1995) also demonstrated ion production associated with a
> solar proton event in a surface ionization chamber, at Cheltenham, Maryland
> (398 N). This ionization was explained to be caused by muons, i.e.
> secondary particles generated from the solar protons. Other sources of
> high-energy particles in the lower atmosphere include thunderstorms (Wilson
> 1925; Lidvansky 2003), from which there is surface experimental evidence
> for accelerated electrons (Khaerdinov et al. 2005).
>
> -
>
> Increased cloud formation and electrification of the atmosphere could be
> an as yet unrecognized consequence of prolific use of LENR in petawatt
> level power production. It is a good bet that LENR produces muons as a
> primary format of nuclear energy reformulation. Heat generation is only a
> minor energy pathway.
>
> If LENR gains traction as a primary source for global energy production,
> the atmosphere could experience a massive increase in water droplet
> ionization and electrical charge amplification from LENR moderated muon
> creation.
>
> Muons from a LENR reactor can send very energetic muons high into the
> atmosphere where their interaction with water vapor is inevitable. This
> could result in a permanent  loss in global fair weather conditions in a
> permanently overcast world.  The deployed base of solar panel power
> production could be rendered ineffectual and the gloomy cloud shrouded
> earth could enter a new epoch of global cooling as little heat or light
> would penetrate to reach the ground.
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> What most people don't know also is that the cosmic ray flux affects the
> weather.  Galactic cosmic rays are variable and depend in part on our solar
> system's orbital position in the spiral arm.  Cosmic rays variably affect
> the weather by penetration into the lower atmosphere, nucleating water
> droplets, and hence forming clouds.  The amount of cosmogenic cloud
> formation depends on the cosmic ray rate and average energy.
>
> Solar activity varies the solar magnetic field which changes the Earth's
> magnetic field, and hence the Earth's magnetic protection from cosmic
> rays.  Of course, greater solar activity also affects the rate of solar
> generated high energy particles which behave similarly to cosmic rays.
>
> Increased cosmic ray/solar particle flux causes more clouds and causes a
> net cooling on the Earth.  Increased solar magnetic fields cause increased
> Earth's magnetic fields that shield from cosmic rays.  So, increased solar
> magnetic fields means less clouds on Earth and higher temperatures on the
> Earth.
>
> As I understand it, the link between solar magnetic fields, solar particle
> flux, cosmic ray flux, and clouds is not part of present climate models.
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:16 AM, JonesBeene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> Periodically, the cross connection between abnormal solar activity and
> hurricanes is mentioned in the ALT-SCI press.
>
> https://www.inverse.com/article/36183-solar-flare-hurricane-irma
>
> Of course this year is no exception as the strongest storm in a decade and
> the strongest solar flares in the past 11 year cycle are aligned in time.
>
> It is a complex interaction but there seems to be something beyond
> coincidence going on in this alignment. Often wate

Re: [Vo]:Sunspots, hurricanes and dense hydrogen

[Adrian Ashfield]

AXIL,
I think Svensmark was the dirt to come up with this theory and he made a good 
video describing it here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANMTPF1blpQ
(You can skip the first 2:20 of pretty pictures)

The source of hurricanes seems to be a combination of a cooler upper atmosphere 
and warmer sea surface.  The temperature difference drives the formation.  It's 
not just warmer water.


 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sunspots, hurricanes and dense hydrogen



Reference:



Enhancement of cloud formation by droplet charging

rspa.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/royprsa/464/2098/2561.full.pdf




Shea & Smart (1995) also demonstrated ion production associated with a solar 
proton event in a surface ionization chamber, at Cheltenham, Maryland (398 N). 
This ionization was explained to be caused by muons, i.e. secondary particles 
generated from the solar protons. Other sources of high-energy particles in the 
lower atmosphere include thunderstorms (Wilson 1925; Lidvansky 2003), from 
which there is surface experimental evidence for accelerated electrons 
(Khaerdinov et al. 2005).



-


Increased cloud formation and electrification of the atmosphere could be an as 
yet unrecognized consequence of prolific use of LENR in petawatt level power 
production. It is a good bet that LENR produces muons as a primary format of 
nuclear energy reformulation. Heat generation is only a minor energy pathway. 


If LENR gains traction as a primary source for global energy production, the 
atmosphere could experience a massive increase in water droplet ionization and 
electrical charge amplification from LENR moderated muon creation. 


Muons from a LENR reactor can send very energetic muons high into the 
atmosphere where their interaction with water vapor is inevitable. This could 
result in a permanent  loss in global fair weather conditions in a permanently 
overcast world.  The deployed base of solar panel power production could be 
rendered ineffectual and the gloomy cloud shrouded earth could enter a new 
epoch of global cooling as little heat or light would penetrate to reach the 
ground.



On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> wrote:


What most people don't know also is that the cosmic ray flux affects the 
weather.  Galactic cosmic rays are variable and depend in part on our solar 
system's orbital position in the spiral arm.  Cosmic rays variably affect the 
weather by penetration into the lower atmosphere, nucleating water droplets, 
and hence forming clouds.  The amount of cosmogenic cloud formation depends on 
the cosmic ray rate and average energy.  



Solar activity varies the solar magnetic field which changes the Earth's 
magnetic field, and hence the Earth's magnetic protection from cosmic rays.  Of 
course, greater solar activity also affects the rate of solar generated high 
energy particles which behave similarly to cosmic rays.


Increased cosmic ray/solar particle flux causes more clouds and causes a net 
cooling on the Earth.  Increased solar magnetic fields cause increased Earth's 
magnetic fields that shield from cosmic rays.  So, increased solar magnetic 
fields means less clouds on Earth and higher temperatures on the Earth.  


As I understand it, the link between solar magnetic fields, solar particle 
flux, cosmic ray flux, and clouds is not part of present climate models.




On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:16 AM, JonesBeene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:


Periodically, the cross connection between abnormal solar activity and 
hurricanes is mentioned in the ALT-SCI press.
 
https://www.inverse.com/article/36183-solar-flare-hurricane-irma
 
Of course this year is no exception as the strongest storm in a decade and the 
strongest solar flares in the past 11 year cycle are aligned in time.
 
It is a complex interaction but there seems to be something beyond coincidence 
going on in this alignment. Often water temperature is said to play a role in 
hurricanes, but this year the Ocean water temperature in hurricane alley is 
normal
 
Perhaps the sunspot itself is not the driving force for more intense storms on 
earth but instead, the sunspot feeds a greater tonnage of dense hydrogen into 
the solar wind, and that dense hydrogen becomes the driving mechanism for the 
extra power of the storm.
 

Re: [Vo]:Sunspots, hurricanes and dense hydrogen

[Axil Axil]

Reference:

Enhancement of cloud formation by droplet charging
rspa.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/royprsa/464/2098/2561.full.pdf

Shea & Smart (1995) also demonstrated ion production associated with a
solar proton event in a surface ionization chamber, at Cheltenham, Maryland
(398 N). This ionization was explained to be caused by muons, i.e.
secondary particles generated from the solar protons. Other sources of
high-energy particles in the lower atmosphere include thunderstorms (Wilson
1925; Lidvansky 2003), from which there is surface experimental evidence
for accelerated electrons (Khaerdinov et al. 2005).

-

Increased cloud formation and electrification of the atmosphere could be an
as yet unrecognized consequence of prolific use of LENR in petawatt level
power production. It is a good bet that LENR produces muons as a primary
format of nuclear energy reformulation. Heat generation is only a minor
energy pathway.

If LENR gains traction as a primary source for global energy production,
the atmosphere could experience a massive increase in water droplet
ionization and electrical charge amplification from LENR moderated muon
creation.

Muons from a LENR reactor can send very energetic muons high into the
atmosphere where their interaction with water vapor is inevitable. This
could result in a permanent  loss in global fair weather conditions in a
permanently overcast world.  The deployed base of solar panel power
production could be rendered ineffectual and the gloomy cloud shrouded
earth could enter a new epoch of global cooling as little heat or light
would penetrate to reach the ground.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Bob Higgins 
wrote:

> What most people don't know also is that the cosmic ray flux affects the
> weather.  Galactic cosmic rays are variable and depend in part on our solar
> system's orbital position in the spiral arm.  Cosmic rays variably affect
> the weather by penetration into the lower atmosphere, nucleating water
> droplets, and hence forming clouds.  The amount of cosmogenic cloud
> formation depends on the cosmic ray rate and average energy.
>
> Solar activity varies the solar magnetic field which changes the Earth's
> magnetic field, and hence the Earth's magnetic protection from cosmic
> rays.  Of course, greater solar activity also affects the rate of solar
> generated high energy particles which behave similarly to cosmic rays.
>
> Increased cosmic ray/solar particle flux causes more clouds and causes a
> net cooling on the Earth.  Increased solar magnetic fields cause increased
> Earth's magnetic fields that shield from cosmic rays.  So, increased solar
> magnetic fields means less clouds on Earth and higher temperatures on the
> Earth.
>
> As I understand it, the link between solar magnetic fields, solar particle
> flux, cosmic ray flux, and clouds is not part of present climate models.
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:16 AM, JonesBeene  wrote:
>
>> Periodically, the cross connection between abnormal solar activity and
>> hurricanes is mentioned in the ALT-SCI press.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.inverse.com/article/36183-solar-flare-hurricane-irma
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course this year is no exception as the strongest storm in a decade
>> and the strongest solar flares in the past 11 year cycle are aligned in
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is a complex interaction but there seems to be something beyond
>> coincidence going on in this alignment. Often water temperature is said to
>> play a role in hurricanes, but this year the Ocean water temperature in
>> hurricane alley is normal
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps the sunspot itself is not the driving force for more intense
>> storms on earth but instead, the sunspot feeds a greater tonnage of dense
>> hydrogen into the solar wind, and that dense hydrogen becomes the driving
>> mechanism for the extra power of the storm.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Sunspots, hurricanes and dense hydrogen

[Terry Blanton]

You forgot the 8.1 earthquake off the west coast of southern Mexico.  

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 12:16 PM, JonesBeene  wrote:

> Periodically, the cross connection between abnormal solar activity and
> hurricanes is mentioned in the ALT-SCI press.
>
>
>
> https://www.inverse.com/article/36183-solar-flare-hurricane-irma
>
>
>
> Of course this year is no exception as the strongest storm in a decade and
> the strongest solar flares in the past 11 year cycle are aligned in time.
>
>
>
> It is a complex interaction but there seems to be something beyond
> coincidence going on in this alignment. Often water temperature is said to
> play a role in hurricanes, but this year the Ocean water temperature in
> hurricane alley is normal
>
>
>
> Perhaps the sunspot itself is not the driving force for more intense
> storms on earth but instead, the sunspot feeds a greater tonnage of dense
> hydrogen into the solar wind, and that dense hydrogen becomes the driving
> mechanism for the extra power of the storm.
>
>
>