Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
i'd have to look at that very carefully in light of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbr0fQfJC-8 He cites some compelling reasons it might be busted, but, you never know. On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 at 03:12, Terry Blanton wrote: > It's Back...LK-99 second chance? Silicon? > > > https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lk-99-patent-update-suggest-it-could-work > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 11:25 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > >> And a new candidate with "dancing" Cooper pairs. >> >> >> https://www.sciencealert.com/physicists-identify-a-strange-new-form-of-superconductivity >> >> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 8:31 PM Jonathan Berry < >> jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Maybe, look at how both cases of levitation had one end up and one end >>> down. >>> >>> This suggests one of 2 things, they either made a ferromagnetic material >>> not a superconductor. >>> >>> OR, they made a superconductor that is only superconductive at one end. >>> >>> So a tiny bit of contamination only occurred at that point? >>> >>> Maybe the thin film technique works better because it increases chances >>> for contamination? >>> >>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 at 08:58, Robin >>> wrote: >>> In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 18 Aug 2023 16:13:33 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Two down > > https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/18/lk-99-room-temperature-superconductor/ ...maybe the impurities are what it's all about. Clearly the substance they produced behaved remarkably like a superconductor. Perhaps it just needs a bit more study to determine what the real superconductor is? Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
It's Back...LK-99 second chance? Silicon? https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lk-99-patent-update-suggest-it-could-work On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 11:25 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > And a new candidate with "dancing" Cooper pairs. > > > https://www.sciencealert.com/physicists-identify-a-strange-new-form-of-superconductivity > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 8:31 PM Jonathan Berry < > jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Maybe, look at how both cases of levitation had one end up and one end >> down. >> >> This suggests one of 2 things, they either made a ferromagnetic material >> not a superconductor. >> >> OR, they made a superconductor that is only superconductive at one end. >> >> So a tiny bit of contamination only occurred at that point? >> >> Maybe the thin film technique works better because it increases chances >> for contamination? >> >> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 at 08:58, Robin >> wrote: >> >>> In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 18 Aug 2023 16:13:33 -0400: >>> Hi, >>> [snip] >>> >Two down >>> > >>> > >>> https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/18/lk-99-room-temperature-superconductor/ >>> >>> ...maybe the impurities are what it's all about. Clearly the substance >>> they produced behaved remarkably like a >>> superconductor. Perhaps it just needs a bit more study to determine what >>> the real superconductor is? >>> Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. >>> >>>
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
And a new candidate with "dancing" Cooper pairs. https://www.sciencealert.com/physicists-identify-a-strange-new-form-of-superconductivity On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 8:31 PM Jonathan Berry wrote: > Maybe, look at how both cases of levitation had one end up and one end > down. > > This suggests one of 2 things, they either made a ferromagnetic material > not a superconductor. > > OR, they made a superconductor that is only superconductive at one end. > > So a tiny bit of contamination only occurred at that point? > > Maybe the thin film technique works better because it increases chances > for contamination? > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 at 08:58, Robin > wrote: > >> In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 18 Aug 2023 16:13:33 -0400: >> Hi, >> [snip] >> >Two down >> > >> >https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/18/lk-99-room-temperature-superconductor/ >> >> ...maybe the impurities are what it's all about. Clearly the substance >> they produced behaved remarkably like a >> superconductor. Perhaps it just needs a bit more study to determine what >> the real superconductor is? >> Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. >> >>
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
Maybe, look at how both cases of levitation had one end up and one end down. This suggests one of 2 things, they either made a ferromagnetic material not a superconductor. OR, they made a superconductor that is only superconductive at one end. So a tiny bit of contamination only occurred at that point? Maybe the thin film technique works better because it increases chances for contamination? On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 at 08:58, Robin wrote: > In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 18 Aug 2023 16:13:33 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >Two down > > > >https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/18/lk-99-room-temperature-superconductor/ > > ...maybe the impurities are what it's all about. Clearly the substance > they produced behaved remarkably like a > superconductor. Perhaps it just needs a bit more study to determine what > the real superconductor is? > Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. > >
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 18 Aug 2023 16:13:33 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Two down > >https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/18/lk-99-room-temperature-superconductor/ ...maybe the impurities are what it's all about. Clearly the substance they produced behaved remarkably like a superconductor. Perhaps it just needs a bit more study to determine what the real superconductor is? Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
Two down https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/18/lk-99-room-temperature-superconductor/ On Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 7:37 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > One down, one to go. > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/15/science/retraction-ranga-dias-rochester.html > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 6:33 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > >> Sound is sound. Energy changes with frequency. >> >> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 12:47 PM Andrew Meulenberg >> wrote: >> >>> Phonons are important to the CF process; but, the ultrasound might >>> provide organized pressure waves to align defects into CF productive >>> structures. >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 10:34 AM Terry Blanton >>> wrote: >>> I think there have been studies on phonons in CF. You might search Jed's web site. On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 10:57 AM Andrew Meulenberg wrote: > Robin, Good suggestion in your BTW. > > On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 2:57 PM Robin > wrote: > >> In reply to Andrew Meulenberg's message of Sat, 5 Aug 2023 14:41:18 >> -0500: >> Hi Andrew, >> [snip] >> >Robin, Your strained lattices might also be the answer to useful CF. >> >> Please feel free to pursue it. It's way beyond my means to do so. >> >> BTW, it can be enhanced by introducing a forced ultrasound vibration >> that resonates in the lattice at a frequency that >> encourages vibration in the plain. >> >> Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. >> >>
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
One down, one to go. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/15/science/retraction-ranga-dias-rochester.html On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 6:33 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > Sound is sound. Energy changes with frequency. > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 12:47 PM Andrew Meulenberg > wrote: > >> Phonons are important to the CF process; but, the ultrasound might >> provide organized pressure waves to align defects into CF productive >> structures. >> >> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 10:34 AM Terry Blanton wrote: >> >>> I think there have been studies on phonons in CF. You might search >>> Jed's web site. >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 10:57 AM Andrew Meulenberg >>> wrote: >>> Robin, Good suggestion in your BTW. On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 2:57 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to Andrew Meulenberg's message of Sat, 5 Aug 2023 14:41:18 > -0500: > Hi Andrew, > [snip] > >Robin, Your strained lattices might also be the answer to useful CF. > > Please feel free to pursue it. It's way beyond my means to do so. > > BTW, it can be enhanced by introducing a forced ultrasound vibration > that resonates in the lattice at a frequency that > encourages vibration in the plain. > > Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. > >
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
Sound is sound. Energy changes with frequency. On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 12:47 PM Andrew Meulenberg wrote: > Phonons are important to the CF process; but, the ultrasound might provide > organized pressure waves to align defects into CF productive structures. > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 10:34 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > >> I think there have been studies on phonons in CF. You might search Jed's >> web site. >> >> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 10:57 AM Andrew Meulenberg >> wrote: >> >>> Robin, Good suggestion in your BTW. >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 2:57 PM Robin >>> wrote: >>> In reply to Andrew Meulenberg's message of Sat, 5 Aug 2023 14:41:18 -0500: Hi Andrew, [snip] >Robin, Your strained lattices might also be the answer to useful CF. Please feel free to pursue it. It's way beyond my means to do so. BTW, it can be enhanced by introducing a forced ultrasound vibration that resonates in the lattice at a frequency that encourages vibration in the plain. Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Mon, 7 Aug 2023 11:06:38 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I think there have been studies on phonons in CF. You might search Jed's >web site. Look at the work done by a.o. Russ George. Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
Phonons are important to the CF process; but, the ultrasound might provide organized pressure waves to align defects into CF productive structures. On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 10:34 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > I think there have been studies on phonons in CF. You might search Jed's > web site. > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 10:57 AM Andrew Meulenberg > wrote: > >> Robin, Good suggestion in your BTW. >> >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 2:57 PM Robin >> wrote: >> >>> In reply to Andrew Meulenberg's message of Sat, 5 Aug 2023 14:41:18 >>> -0500: >>> Hi Andrew, >>> [snip] >>> >Robin, Your strained lattices might also be the answer to useful CF. >>> >>> Please feel free to pursue it. It's way beyond my means to do so. >>> >>> BTW, it can be enhanced by introducing a forced ultrasound vibration >>> that resonates in the lattice at a frequency that >>> encourages vibration in the plain. >>> >>> Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. >>> >>>
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
I think there have been studies on phonons in CF. You might search Jed's web site. On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 10:57 AM Andrew Meulenberg wrote: > Robin, Good suggestion in your BTW. > > On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 2:57 PM Robin > wrote: > >> In reply to Andrew Meulenberg's message of Sat, 5 Aug 2023 14:41:18 >> -0500: >> Hi Andrew, >> [snip] >> >Robin, Your strained lattices might also be the answer to useful CF. >> >> Please feel free to pursue it. It's way beyond my means to do so. >> >> BTW, it can be enhanced by introducing a forced ultrasound vibration that >> resonates in the lattice at a frequency that >> encourages vibration in the plain. >> >> Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. >> >>
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
Robin, Good suggestion in your BTW. On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 2:57 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to Andrew Meulenberg's message of Sat, 5 Aug 2023 14:41:18 -0500: > Hi Andrew, > [snip] > >Robin, Your strained lattices might also be the answer to useful CF. > > Please feel free to pursue it. It's way beyond my means to do so. > > BTW, it can be enhanced by introducing a forced ultrasound vibration that > resonates in the lattice at a frequency that > encourages vibration in the plain. > > Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. > >
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
In reply to Andrew Meulenberg's message of Sat, 5 Aug 2023 14:41:18 -0500: Hi Andrew, [snip] >Robin, Your strained lattices might also be the answer to useful CF. Please feel free to pursue it. It's way beyond my means to do so. BTW, it can be enhanced by introducing a forced ultrasound vibration that resonates in the lattice at a frequency that encourages vibration in the plain. Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
Robin, Your strained lattices might also be the answer to useful CF. _ _ _ On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 3:38 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 26 Jul 2023 19:32:07 + > (UTC): > Hi, > > You may recall that years ago, I suggested on this list that strained > lattices might result in a preferential vibration > direction for the atoms of the lattice (Bose condensate of phonons). That > in turn leads to vibration primarily in a > single plain. When that happens, ballistic conduction of electrons might > be possible parallel to those vibration plains, > since the passage of the electron would rarely be interrupted. > > [snip] > >This story turns out to have been around the net for a long time > >It appeared in the record as a compound named LK-99 = Lee-Kim (1999): > >IOW - they discovered it nearly a quarter of a century ago.. makes one > wonder if this post is not an odd troll > > > >Not to mention, an unreasonable time to isolate, confirm and cook up; > patents filed in 2021, and granted in 2023—hence only now the public > articles and trademark applications ... which likely means it is not robust > or usable.and they are grasping at straws > > > >This according to Reddit > Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. > >
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
Super conduction (SC) is a complex field. First the old cooper pair model is invalid for most cases as shown by Hirsch. The physical reality more looks like evolving spin currents (=EM flux only) that seemlessly explains why field lines cannot penetrate an SC: From this it is clear that a full (Meissner effect) SC needs to have at least a 2D structure. The smallest possible 2D structure is a homogeneous crystal axes what most call a 1D SC. 1D SC's at room T have been identified a long time ago > 20 years. But the synthesis of long mono-crystals is not viable except e.g. carbon nano tubes that now reach 1 meter. So the final question is whether LK99 is 1D or 2D. In case its full 2D (2 axes) then a better synthesis will finally show a full Meissner effect - what is not yet the case. Nevertheless if resistance disappears in 1D it still is an SC just not a classical one. So lets wait what will happen. As the result will be high impact, do not trust any statements by "high level" political instances. Only science should be accepted and this might take weeks..years... J.W. On 04.08.2023 01:52, Terry Blanton wrote: Rendered Invalid https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2023/08/03/business/tech/Korea-Quantum-Energy-Research-Centre-superconductor/20230803184638075.html On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 9:49 AM Terry Blanton wrote: https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008?s=09 -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
Two bit da Vinci...yeah worth about 25¢ On Thu, Aug 3, 2023, 8:19 PM Jones Beene wrote: > > the arm-chair physicists out there seem to be positing "a new kind of > superconductivity" rather than, you know > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLr95AFBRXI > > > > Terry Blanton wrote: > > > Rendered Invalid > > > https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2023/08/03/business/tech/Korea-Quantum-Energy-Research-Centre-superconductor/20230803184638075.html > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 9:49 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > > > https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008?s=09 > > > > >
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
the arm-chair physicists out there seem to be positing "a new kind of superconductivity" rather than, you know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLr95AFBRXI Terry Blanton wrote: Rendered Invalid https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2023/08/03/business/tech/Korea-Quantum-Energy-Research-Centre-superconductor/20230803184638075.html On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 9:49 AM Terry Blanton wrote: https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008?s=09
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
Rendered Invalid https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2023/08/03/business/tech/Korea-Quantum-Energy-Research-Centre-superconductor/20230803184638075.html On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 9:49 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > > https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008?s=09 > > > > >
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
original url (not firewalled, requires registration) https://www.newscientist.com/article/2384782-room-temperature-superconductor-breakthrough-met-with-scepticism/ On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 9:30 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > From New Scientist (for list use only, firewalled) > > https://archive.ph/kIX9s > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 4:38 PM Robin > wrote: > >> In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 26 Jul 2023 19:32:07 + >> (UTC): >> Hi, >> >> You may recall that years ago, I suggested on this list that strained >> lattices might result in a preferential vibration >> direction for the atoms of the lattice (Bose condensate of phonons). That >> in turn leads to vibration primarily in a >> single plain. When that happens, ballistic conduction of electrons might >> be possible parallel to those vibration plains, >> since the passage of the electron would rarely be interrupted. >> >> [snip] >> >This story turns out to have been around the net for a long time >> >It appeared in the record as a compound named LK-99 = Lee-Kim (1999): >> >IOW - they discovered it nearly a quarter of a century ago.. makes one >> wonder if this post is not an odd troll >> > >> >Not to mention, an unreasonable time to isolate, confirm and cook up; >> patents filed in 2021, and granted in 2023—hence only now the public >> articles and trademark applications ... which likely means it is not robust >> or usable.and they are grasping at straws >> > >> >This according to Reddit >> Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. >> >>
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
>From New Scientist (for list use only, firewalled) https://archive.ph/kIX9s On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 4:38 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 26 Jul 2023 19:32:07 + > (UTC): > Hi, > > You may recall that years ago, I suggested on this list that strained > lattices might result in a preferential vibration > direction for the atoms of the lattice (Bose condensate of phonons). That > in turn leads to vibration primarily in a > single plain. When that happens, ballistic conduction of electrons might > be possible parallel to those vibration plains, > since the passage of the electron would rarely be interrupted. > > [snip] > >This story turns out to have been around the net for a long time > >It appeared in the record as a compound named LK-99 = Lee-Kim (1999): > >IOW - they discovered it nearly a quarter of a century ago.. makes one > wonder if this post is not an odd troll > > > >Not to mention, an unreasonable time to isolate, confirm and cook up; > patents filed in 2021, and granted in 2023—hence only now the public > articles and trademark applications ... which likely means it is not robust > or usable.and they are grasping at straws > > > >This according to Reddit > Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. > >
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 26 Jul 2023 19:32:07 + (UTC): Hi, You may recall that years ago, I suggested on this list that strained lattices might result in a preferential vibration direction for the atoms of the lattice (Bose condensate of phonons). That in turn leads to vibration primarily in a single plain. When that happens, ballistic conduction of electrons might be possible parallel to those vibration plains, since the passage of the electron would rarely be interrupted. [snip] >This story turns out to have been around the net for a long time >It appeared in the record as a compound named LK-99 = Lee-Kim (1999): >IOW - they discovered it nearly a quarter of a century ago.. makes one wonder >if this post is not an odd troll > >Not to mention, an unreasonable time to isolate, confirm and cook up; patents >filed in 2021, and granted in 2023hence only now the public articles and >trademark applications ... which likely means it is not robust or usable.and >they are grasping at straws > >This according to Reddit Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
This story turns out to have been around the net for a long time It appeared in the record as a compound named LK-99 = Lee-Kim (1999): IOW - they discovered it nearly a quarter of a century ago.. makes one wonder if this post is not an odd troll Not to mention, an unreasonable time to isolate, confirm and cook up; patents filed in 2021, and granted in 2023—hence only now the public articles and trademark applications ... which likely means it is not robust or usable.and they are grasping at straws This according to Reddit
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
Well, ask Stanley. You'd need a medium to ask Martin. On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 2:56 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > It won't get published if it can't be replicated. Ask Fleischman. He > should have told everyone where he got his electrodes. > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 2:10 PM MSF wrote: > >> This discovery is truly remarkable for more than one reason. You have to >> wonder about the thought process that led these guys to this particular >> method. Another thing is that there are no exotic materials used. >> Practically anyone who read this paper could reproduce the results unless >> some essential step was intentionally left out. >> >> --- Original Message --- >> On Wednesday, July 26th, 2023 at 1:47 PM, Terry Blanton < >> hohlr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008?s=09 >> >> >> >>
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
It won't get published if it can't be replicated. Ask Fleischman. He should have told everyone where he got his electrodes. On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 2:10 PM MSF wrote: > This discovery is truly remarkable for more than one reason. You have to > wonder about the thought process that led these guys to this particular > method. Another thing is that there are no exotic materials used. > Practically anyone who read this paper could reproduce the results unless > some essential step was intentionally left out. > > --- Original Message --- > On Wednesday, July 26th, 2023 at 1:47 PM, Terry Blanton < > hohlr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008?s=09 > > > >
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
This discovery is truly remarkable for more than one reason. You have to wonder about the thought process that led these guys to this particular method. Another thing is that there are no exotic materials used. Practically anyone who read this paper could reproduce the results unless some essential step was intentionally left out. --- Original Message --- On Wednesday, July 26th, 2023 at 1:47 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008?s=09
Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor
There have been other claimants - this is not the first but it may become the first to be fully replicated and notably it shows the Meissner effect which most of the others did not, The affiliation of the authors is not clear The Superconductor is Pb10−xCux(PO4)6O (a common mineral) showing levitation at room temperature and atmospheric pressure Authors: Sukbae Lee, Jihoon Kim, Hyun-Tak Kim, Sungyeon Im, SooMin An, Keun Ho Auh Terry Blanton wrote: https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008?s=09
