Re: [Vo]:The Oumuamua anomaly

2020-08-23 Thread Jones Beene
H LV wrote: 
 > Since hardly anything is known about the composition and structure of 
 > Oumuamua one is free to imagine a composition and structure that could 
 > produce the observed trajectory when interacting the sun's magnetic field. 

If it has the right composition, it is probably cold enough, when away from the 
sun to be a high temperature superconductor, right? 

Thus it would expel the magnetic field and accelerate away from  say - Jupiter, 
which has by far the strongest magnetic field in the solar system 

Here is an article on SC material found in meteorites

Superconducting materials found in meteorites 

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Re: [Vo]:The Oumuamua anomaly

2020-08-23 Thread H LV
Since hardly anything is known about the composition and structure of
Oumuamua one is free to imagine a composition and structure that could
produce the observed trajectory when interacting the sun's magnetic field.
In other words  Oumuamua could be treated like a black box where only the
rough dimensions of the box are known.

This situation is different from the Pioneer anomaly. Using the effect of
sunlight on the spacecraft to explain the probe's anomalous acceleration had
to be constrained by the known structure and composition of the spacecraft.

Harry

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 7:24 PM Robin 
wrote:

> In reply to  H LV's message of Sat, 22 Aug 2020 18:41:54 -0400:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >Some magnetic field effects have been modeled but they don't produce the
> >observed discrepancy.
>
> I think it would be hard to model correctly without knowing the exact
> composition of the thing, or distribution of the
> materials within it.
> [snip]
>
>


Re: [Vo]:The Oumuamua anomaly

2020-08-22 Thread Robin
In reply to  H LV's message of Sat, 22 Aug 2020 18:41:54 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>Some magnetic field effects have been modeled but they don't produce the
>observed discrepancy.

I think it would be hard to model correctly without knowing the exact 
composition of the thing, or distribution of the
materials within it.
[snip]



Re: [Vo]:The Oumuamua anomaly

2020-08-22 Thread H LV
Some magnetic field effects have been modeled but they don't produce the
observed discrepancy.

harry

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 3:49 PM Robin 
wrote:

> In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Fri, 21 Aug 2020 18:37:02 +
> (UTC):
> Hi,
> [snip]
>
> To me it looks like a nickel-iron meteor. Acceleration possibly due to
> interaction with the Sun's magnetic field.
>
> >
> >Vibrator ! wrote:
> > > Probably been mooted before; but could the anomalous acceleration be
> due to outgassing of hydrinos?
> >Was there ever any evidence of hydrino at all? e.g. Hydrogen Balmer Line
> broadening or EUV emission etc
> >
> >An amateur should have been able to document such an emission anomaly, if
> it were a feature of that object.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


Re: [Vo]:The Oumuamua anomaly

2020-08-21 Thread Robin
In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Fri, 21 Aug 2020 18:37:02 + (UTC):
Hi,
[snip]

To me it looks like a nickel-iron meteor. Acceleration possibly due to 
interaction with the Sun's magnetic field.

>
>Vibrator ! wrote:  
> > Probably been mooted before; but could the anomalous acceleration be due to 
> > outgassing of hydrinos?
>Was there ever any evidence of hydrino at all? e.g. Hydrogen Balmer Line 
>broadening or EUV emission etc
>
>An amateur should have been able to document such an emission anomaly, if it 
>were a feature of that object.
>
>
>
>
>  



Re: [Vo]:The Oumuamua anomaly

2020-08-21 Thread Jones Beene
 

Vibrator ! wrote:  
 > Probably been mooted before; but could the anomalous acceleration be due to 
 > outgassing of hydrinos?
Was there ever any evidence of hydrino at all? e.g. Hydrogen Balmer Line 
broadening or EUV emission etc

An amateur should have been able to document such an emission anomaly, if it 
were a feature of that object.