Re: [Vo]:The temperature of the CMB
Yes. But I am beginning to doubt the supposed solid proof that the universe is really expanding. Even Hoyle believed the expansion to be an essential feature of the universe. This 2015 summary of seven tests of cosmological expansion is hardly ringing endorsement. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1501.01487.pdf In fact only 2 of the 7 tests strongly favour expansion. Harry On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 9:23 AM Jones Beene wrote: > Harry, > > Are you familiar with the "big bounce" arguments? > > https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200117-what-if-the-universe-has-no-end > > This emerging hypothesis seems to address some of the problems with Hoyle, > Gold etc. which seem to falter due to CMB uniformity - and possibly > represents the best new alternative to the standard cosmological model. > > In the end, with new findings the uniformity of the CMB is in doubt and > the current model is probably not as accurate as most would think. > > Jones > > > H LV wrote: > > The Riddle of the Redshift: The Universe We Don't Understand . > A talk given by Margaret Burbidge in 2001 ( She worked with Fred Hoyle) > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eYbpykJVD8 > > Harry > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 4:32 PM H LV wrote: > > > > > https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/remembering-big-bang-basher-fred-hoyle/ > > quote > < cosmic microwave background. It was 1963, and during an astronomy > conference Hoyle fell into a conversation with Robert Dicke, a physicist > who was planning to search for the cosmic microwaves predicted by the big > bang model. Dicke told Hoyle that he expected the microwaves to be about 20 > degrees above absolute zero, which is what most theorists were predicting. > Hoyle then told Dicke that in 1941 the Canadian radio astronomer Andrew > McCullough had found interstellar gas radiating microwaves at three > degrees, not 20. >> > > As we all know a CMB was found in 1965 but I was not aware that the early > Big Bang theorists predicted a higher temperature for the CMB. I wonder how > this discrepancy was explained by the BB theorists. > > Harry > >
RE: [Vo]:The temperature of the CMB
The link to the report about Houle includes: n 1953 Hoyle's investigations of how stars generate heavy elements led him to predict the existence of a previously unknown state of the isotope carbon 12. I assume the writer and Houle meant an isomeric state os C-12. Zny such states were known in 1954 Maybe Hoyle knew about the state he “discovered in the stars’ spectrums. He might have been his way nonhigh lighting the quasi stable phases of most all nuclei. Bob Cook From: Jones Beene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 6:23 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:The temperature of the CMB Harry, Are you familiar with the "big bounce" arguments? https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200117-what-if-the-universe-has-no-end This emerging hypothesis seems to address some of the problems with Hoyle, Gold etc. which seem to falter due to CMB uniformity - and possibly represents the best new alternative to the standard cosmological model. In the end, with new findings the uniformity of the CMB is in doubt and the current model is probably not as accurate as most would think. Jones H LV wrote: The Riddle of the Redshift: The Universe We Don't Understand . A talk given by Margaret Burbidge in 2001 ( She worked with Fred Hoyle) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eYbpykJVD8 Harry On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 4:32 PM H LV mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com>> wrote: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/remembering-big-bang-basher-fred-hoyle/ quote <> As we all know a CMB was found in 1965 but I was not aware that the early Big Bang theorists predicted a higher temperature for the CMB. I wonder how this discrepancy was explained by the BB theorists. Harry
Re: [Vo]:The temperature of the CMB
Harry, Are you familiar with the "big bounce" arguments? https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200117-what-if-the-universe-has-no-end This emerging hypothesis seems to address some of the problems with Hoyle, Gold etc. which seem to falter due to CMB uniformity - and possibly represents the best new alternative to the standard cosmological model. In the end, with new findings the uniformity of the CMB is in doubt and the current model is probably not as accurate as most would think. Jones H LV wrote: The Riddle of the Redshift: The Universe We Don't Understand .A talk given by Margaret Burbidge in 2001 ( She worked with Fred Hoyle) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eYbpykJVD8 Harry On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 4:32 PM H LV wrote: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/remembering-big-bang-basher-fred-hoyle/ quote <> As we all know a CMB was found in 1965 but I was not aware that the early Big Bang theorists predicted a higher temperature for the CMB. I wonder how this discrepancy was explained by the BB theorists. Harry
Re: [Vo]:The temperature of the CMB
The Riddle of the Redshift: The Universe We Don't Understand . A talk given by Margaret Burbidge in 2001 ( She worked with Fred Hoyle) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eYbpykJVD8 Harry On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 4:32 PM H LV wrote: > > > > https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/remembering-big-bang-basher-fred-hoyle/ > > quote > < cosmic microwave background. It was 1963, and during an astronomy > conference Hoyle fell into a conversation with Robert Dicke, a physicist > who was planning to search for the cosmic microwaves predicted by the big > bang model. Dicke told Hoyle that he expected the microwaves to be about 20 > degrees above absolute zero, which is what most theorists were predicting. > Hoyle then told Dicke that in 1941 the Canadian radio astronomer Andrew > McCullough had found interstellar gas radiating microwaves at three > degrees, not 20. >> > > As we all know a CMB was found in 1965 but I was not aware that the early > Big Bang theorists predicted a higher temperature for the CMB. I wonder how > this discrepancy was explained by the BB theorists. > > Harry >
