Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Terry Blanton]

Deleted Wuhan Data Recovered

https://nypost.com/2021/06/24/us-officials-confirm-china-deleted-early-covid-19-data-report/



>
>

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[H LV]

This blogger says certain scientists with a conflict of interest kept
the lab theory from being taken seriously.
https://unherd.com/2021/05/how-scientists-sacrificed-scepticism/

My observation: Apparently it is ok for the US to fund some of the
research in Wuhan, but NASA is not allowed to collaborate with China
on a space mission

Harry.


On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 11:09 AM Terry Blanton  wrote:
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9629563/Chinese-scientists-created-COVID-19-lab-tried-cover-tracks-new-study-claims.html
>
> Now, Dalgleish and Sørensen have authored a new study, which concludes that 
> 'SARS-Coronavirus-2 has no credible natural ancestor' and that it is 'beyond 
> reasonable doubt' that the virus was created through 'laboratory 
> manipulation'.
>
> ...
>
> Dalgleish told DailyMail.com that he believed resistance to the theory that 
> COVID-19 is a man-made, escaped virus comes from scientists fearful that th]e 
> revelation would shut down their field.
>
> 'This looks like a weak defense to protect the discipline so that this type 
> of genetic engineering will not be interfered with,' he said. 'I make no 
> bones about it. The Gain of Function engineering should have been banned ages 
> ago.'
>
> On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 11:09 AM Terry Blanton  wrote:
>>
>> Another, today:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 4:56 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:
>>>
>>> An article from the Bulletin of American Scientists
>>>
>>> https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/
>>>
>>> With an interesting quote:
>>>
>>> “When I first saw the furin cleavage site in the viral sequence, with its 
>>> arginine codons, I said to my wife it was the smoking gun for the origin of 
>>> the virus,” said David Baltimore, an eminent virologist and former 
>>> president of CalTech. “These features make a powerful challenge to the idea 
>>> of a natural origin for SARS2,” he said.
>>>
>>>

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Terry Blanton]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9629563/Chinese-scientists-created-COVID-19-lab-tried-cover-tracks-new-study-claims.html

*Now, Dalgleish and Sørensen have authored a new study, which concludes
that 'SARS-Coronavirus-2 has no credible natural ancestor' and that it is
'beyond reasonable doubt' that the virus was created through 'laboratory
manipulation'.*

...



*Dalgleish told DailyMail.com that he believed resistance to the theory
that COVID-19 is a man-made, escaped virus comes from scientists fearful
that th]e revelation would shut down their field.'This looks like a weak
defense to protect the discipline so that this type of genetic engineering
will not be interfered with,' he said. 'I make no bones about it. The Gain
of Function engineering should have been banned ages ago.'*

On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 11:09 AM Terry Blanton  wrote:

> Another, today:
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 4:56 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:
>
>> An article from the Bulletin of American Scientists
>>
>>
>> https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/
>>
>> With an interesting quote:
>>
>> *“When I first saw the furin cleavage site in the viral sequence, with
>> its arginine codons, I said to my wife it was the smoking gun for the
>> origin of the virus,” said David Baltimore, an eminent virologist and
>> former president of CalTech. “These features make a powerful challenge to
>> the idea of a natural origin for SARS2,” he said.*
>>
>>
>>

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Terry Blanton]

Another, today:



On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 4:56 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

> An article from the Bulletin of American Scientists
>
>
> https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/
>
> With an interesting quote:
>
> *“When I first saw the furin cleavage site in the viral sequence, with its
> arginine codons, I said to my wife it was the smoking gun for the origin of
> the virus,” said David Baltimore, an eminent virologist and former
> president of CalTech. “These features make a powerful challenge to the idea
> of a natural origin for SARS2,” he said.*
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Terry Blanton]

An article from the Bulletin of American Scientists

https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

With an interesting quote:

*“When I first saw the furin cleavage site in the viral sequence, with its
arginine codons, I said to my wife it was the smoking gun for the origin of
the virus,” said David Baltimore, an eminent virologist and former
president of CalTech. “These features make a powerful challenge to the idea
of a natural origin for SARS2,” he said.*

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

For people that can understand French


Luc Montagner (Nobel 2009) informs about covid-19

We know this since 6 weeks. Virus is man made, mixture with some HIV 
sequences, contains a lab marker.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSWCLHIOiMo=share=IwAR1txZ7IM2vDBAjf60KeOhqODoXIh3in_4opwb2oF5iq4Jrg1hUe2KPrOW4
J.W.



Am 17.04.20 um 19:44 schrieb Frank Znidarsic:


Weaponizing corona virus.  Are you kidding me?  You are all going
to be on a Federal watch list and no fly list!







--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr.22
8910 Affoltern a.A.
044 760 14 18
079 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[ChemE Stewart]

Right after I finish testing my 365 nm blacklight surrounded by my glow in
the dark velvet Elvis posters and listening to Linda Ronstadt music

I notice these scientist are funded and employed by the company that sells
the lights so it must be true...at least in a military academic industrial
complex paradigm.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10715762.2019.1603378?journalCode=ifra20

I hope it doesn’t kill my good bacteria, I need those.



On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 3:49 PM Axil Axil  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U4DAQ3kjRs=em-uploademail
>
> This video claims that UVC light (222 nm) will kill virus but not affect
> other cells due to cell size compatibility to the wavelength. Please
> confirm with an experiment.
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 3:05 PM ChemE Stewart  wrote:
>
>> New crime:
>>
>> Sneezing with a deadly weapon?
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 2:21 PM Frank Znidarsic 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "There is no greater cause that helping each other to survive."
>>> Governor Wolf Pennsylvania.  Now lets us stop it with these evil ideas and
>>> move in a more positive direction.  To you who started this discussion what
>>> were you thinking?
>>>
>>> Frank Znidarsic
>>> atheist
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Frank Znidarsic 
>>> To: vortex-l 
>>> Sent: Fri, Apr 17, 2020 1:44 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus
>>>
>>>
>>> Weaponizing corona virus.  Are you kidding me?  You are all going to be
>>> on a Federal watch list and no fly list!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

Back to Kindergarden!

UV light is used since weeks to sterilize used masks. Before it has been 
used for decades to do the same.


And of course we need no "bio war" to extinct mankind. Capitalism is 
enough. Just underpay the cleaning staff in the bio-lab and it will sell 
the used animals to be able to survive... (Greetings from Wuhan... the 
epicenter - working slaves city - of capitalism.)


Society is an agreement on common values. If some people have (almost) 
no value then we do not have a society.


For Americans that missed the first lesson of undergraduate history: 
Being social is not being a socialist. It's the desperate exercise to 
uphold a society.


J.W.


Am 17.04.20 um 21:48 schrieb Axil Axil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U4DAQ3kjRs=em-uploademail

This video claims that UVC light (222 nm) will kill virus but not 
affect other cells due to cell size compatibility to the wavelength. 
Please confirm with an experiment.


On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 3:05 PM ChemE Stewart <mailto:cheme...@gmail.com>> wrote:


New crime:

Sneezing with a deadly weapon?

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 2:21 PM Frank Znidarsic
mailto:fznidar...@aol.com>> wrote:

"There is no greater cause that helping each other to
survive." Governor Wolf Pennsylvania.  Now lets us stop it
with these evil ideas and move in a more positive direction. 
To you who started this discussion what were you thinking?

Frank Znidarsic
atheist


-Original Message-
From: Frank Znidarsic mailto:fznidar...@aol.com>>
To: vortex-l mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>>
Sent: Fri, Apr 17, 2020 1:44 pm
    Subject: Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus


Weaponizing corona virus.  Are you kidding me?  You are
all going to be on a Federal watch list and no fly list!







--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr.22
8910 Affoltern a.A.
044 760 14 18
079 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Axil Axil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U4DAQ3kjRs=em-uploademail

This video claims that UVC light (222 nm) will kill virus but not affect
other cells due to cell size compatibility to the wavelength. Please
confirm with an experiment.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 3:05 PM ChemE Stewart  wrote:

> New crime:
>
> Sneezing with a deadly weapon?
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 2:21 PM Frank Znidarsic 
> wrote:
>
>> "There is no greater cause that helping each other to survive."  Governor
>> Wolf Pennsylvania.  Now lets us stop it with these evil ideas and move in a
>> more positive direction.  To you who started this discussion what were you
>> thinking?
>>
>> Frank Znidarsic
>> atheist
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Frank Znidarsic 
>> To: vortex-l 
>> Sent: Fri, Apr 17, 2020 1:44 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus
>>
>>
>> Weaponizing corona virus.  Are you kidding me?  You are all going to be
>> on a Federal watch list and no fly list!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[ChemE Stewart]

New crime:

Sneezing with a deadly weapon?

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 2:21 PM Frank Znidarsic  wrote:

> "There is no greater cause that helping each other to survive."  Governor
> Wolf Pennsylvania.  Now lets us stop it with these evil ideas and move in a
> more positive direction.  To you who started this discussion what were you
> thinking?
>
> Frank Znidarsic
> atheist
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Frank Znidarsic 
> To: vortex-l 
> Sent: Fri, Apr 17, 2020 1:44 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus
>
>
> Weaponizing corona virus.  Are you kidding me?  You are all going to be
> on a Federal watch list and no fly list!
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Frank Znidarsic]

"There is no greater cause that helping each other to survive."  Governor Wolf 
Pennsylvania.  Now lets us stop it with these evil ideas and move in a more 
positive direction.  To you who started this discussion what were you thinking?
Frank Znidarsicatheist


-Original Message-
From: Frank Znidarsic 
To: vortex-l 
Sent: Fri, Apr 17, 2020 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus



Weaponizing corona virus.  Are you kidding me?  You are all going to be on a 
Federal watch list and no fly list!

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Frank Znidarsic]

Weaponizing corona virus.  Are you kidding me?  You are all going to be on a 
Federal watch list and no fly list!

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[ChemE Stewart]

No, actually corona discharge should help kill the virus.  Just stand
beneath a 500,000 volt transmission line when it is damp outside and
snapping and crackling and emitting UVc and you may be cured of Coronavirus
years before you come down with leukemia.

So you can thank electrical engineers!


On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:30 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 9:24 AM ChemE Stewart  wrote:
>
>> The military industrial complex is sterilizing all of us with UVc
>> radiation @ 260 nm
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N1hb9ZXyhs
>>
>> Let's party.
>>
>
> Ah!  Leave it to a ChE to find the cause of coronavirus...electrical
> corona discharge!
>
> Pass the grape koolaid, please.
>

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Terry Blanton]

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 9:24 AM ChemE Stewart  wrote:

> The military industrial complex is sterilizing all of us with UVc
> radiation @ 260 nm
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N1hb9ZXyhs
>
> Let's party.
>

Ah!  Leave it to a ChE to find the cause of coronavirus...electrical corona
discharge!

Pass the grape koolaid, please.

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[ChemE Stewart]

The military industrial complex is sterilizing all of us with UVc
radiation @ 260 nm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N1hb9ZXyhs

Let's party.


On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:56 PM H LV  wrote:

> Nuclear radiation has been tried. It destroys the virus, but degrades the
> mask's filtering ability. It effectively changes an N95 into an N30.
> Apparently an N30 is sufficient for doing surgery.
>
> Harry
>
> On Thu., Apr. 16, 2020, 10:26 p.m. ,  wrote:
>
>> In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 16 Apr 2020 21:38:07 -0400:
>> Hi,
>>
>> For paper masks, one could probably also use Ozone or Chlorine gas. That
>> way, thousands could be done in a few minutes
>> in a batch process.
>>
>>
>> >The University of Nebraska Medical Center is sterilizing their N95 masks
>> >with a larger version:
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.nebraskamed.com/sites/default/files/documents/covid-19/n-95-decon-process.pdf
>> [snip]
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Robin van Spaandonk
>>
>> local asymmetry = temporary success
>>
>>

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[H LV]

Nuclear radiation has been tried. It destroys the virus, but degrades the
mask's filtering ability. It effectively changes an N95 into an N30.
Apparently an N30 is sufficient for doing surgery.

Harry

On Thu., Apr. 16, 2020, 10:26 p.m. ,  wrote:

> In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 16 Apr 2020 21:38:07 -0400:
> Hi,
>
> For paper masks, one could probably also use Ozone or Chlorine gas. That
> way, thousands could be done in a few minutes
> in a batch process.
>
>
> >The University of Nebraska Medical Center is sterilizing their N95 masks
> >with a larger version:
> >
> >
> https://www.nebraskamed.com/sites/default/files/documents/covid-19/n-95-decon-process.pdf
> [snip]
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> local asymmetry = temporary success
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Terry Blanton]

You don't want to stare at UV-C...it will blind you.  I bought safety
glasses.  I also cover the unit when in use:


 Box sign.jpg



On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:46 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

> The NIH article states that masks are damaged by chemical agents.  I first
> heard of the Swedes sterilizing masks with 254 nm light.  Then found the
> NIH article and decided to build my own.  I ordered the parts from Amazon a
> few weeks back and had it up and running last week.  Two sources means you
> don't have to turn the masks.
>
> I am building a second one with a single 18" tube this weekend using a
> standard fixture.  The 6 inch small tubes are no longer available.  I got
> the tube in today.
>  18 inch uv.c.jpg
> 
> I have run tests on cheap dust masks.  After 24 hours exposure, the only
> obvious damage is a weakening of the elastic.  Looks like about 20%.  The
> control is on the right.  Each are filled with equal weights.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Terry Blanton]

The NIH article states that masks are damaged by chemical agents.  I first
heard of the Swedes sterilizing masks with 254 nm light.  Then found the
NIH article and decided to build my own.  I ordered the parts from Amazon a
few weeks back and had it up and running last week.  Two sources means you
don't have to turn the masks.

I am building a second one with a single 18" tube this weekend using a
standard fixture.  The 6 inch small tubes are no longer available.  I got
the tube in today.
 18 inch uv.c.jpg

I have run tests on cheap dust masks.  After 24 hours exposure, the only
obvious damage is a weakening of the elastic.  Looks like about 20%.  The
control is on the right.  Each are filled with equal weights.

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Axil Axil]

The method used now is hydrogen peroxide vapor.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:26 PM  wrote:

> In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 16 Apr 2020 21:38:07 -0400:
> Hi,
>
> For paper masks, one could probably also use Ozone or Chlorine gas. That
> way, thousands could be done in a few minutes
> in a batch process.
>
>
> >The University of Nebraska Medical Center is sterilizing their N95 masks
> >with a larger version:
> >
> >
> https://www.nebraskamed.com/sites/default/files/documents/covid-19/n-95-decon-process.pdf
> [snip]
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> local asymmetry = temporary success
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[mixent]

In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 16 Apr 2020 21:38:07 -0400:
Hi,

For paper masks, one could probably also use Ozone or Chlorine gas. That way, 
thousands could be done in a few minutes
in a batch process.


>The University of Nebraska Medical Center is sterilizing their N95 masks
>with a larger version:
>
>https://www.nebraskamed.com/sites/default/files/documents/covid-19/n-95-decon-process.pdf
[snip]

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Jones Beene]

    Terry Blanton wrote:  


OK – here’s one clever way that comes to mind – don’t laugh - the US mail. It 
adds a whole new meaning to “the check is in the mail”

I run mine through this:
 uv light.jpgIt's a UV-C source that kills coronavirus by ripping up their RNA 
strands.  It only takes about 300 mJ/cm^2. 


That should take care of any virus problem.  I'm impressed that you have 
prepared for this potential risk, in advance

Do you also have a fallout shelter ... in case things should get seriously out 
of hand?
Say, maybe a tanning bed would work on tainted mail, if one is trying to 
economize?
  

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Terry Blanton]

The University of Nebraska Medical Center is sterilizing their N95 masks
with a larger version:

https://www.nebraskamed.com/sites/default/files/documents/covid-19/n-95-decon-process.pdf


This study supports the idea:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4699414/

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[Terry Blanton]

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:51 AM JonesBeene  wrote:

>
>
> Here is a bit of worrisome speculation…
>




> OK – here’s one clever way that comes to mind – don’t laugh - the US mail.
> It adds a whole new meaning to “the check is in the mail”
>

I run mine through this:

 uv light.jpg

It's a UV-C source that kills coronavirus by ripping up their RNA strands.
It only takes about 300 mJ/cm^2.

Re: [Vo]:Weaponizing coronavirus

[mixent]

In reply to  JonesBeene's message of Thu, 16 Apr 2020 07:51:04 -0700:
Hi,

Bio-"weapons" are just a complicated way of committing suicide. The sooner all 
nations wake up to this the better.

[snip]
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success