### Re: [Vo]:Test

Real, the car accelerates to a greater speed, and the end point is below the starting point. On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 19:02, Frank Grimer <88.fr...@gmail.com> wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlSv_IlXmBg > > Two cars. > > Green low road car arrives first. > > Real or Fake. > > Please

### Re: [Vo]:Test

Frank The effect is an interesting phenomenon even if the tendency is to overlook rolling resistance and friction. But the problem for the average observer - the problem with any metaphor or model for LENR - after all these years, is simple. No commercial device. Not just no commercial

### Re: [Vo]:Test

Thanks Jones. To me it is a metaphor for catalysis. One half of component A drops down the field pressure gradient to the low road and speeds up. The other half dawdles along the surface. They both meet up at B and complete their reaction. The reaction speed for the low road is therefore much

### Re: [Vo]:Test

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachistochrone_curve That's rightBut to less "with it " people in some forums it seems a terrible enigma. :-) The trouble with the maths is that it kills all vestige of the real world and prevents one seeing the demo in a different light. For example an analogue

### Re: [Vo]:Test

This similar vid is even a bit more "fake" in terms of expectation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvlmdPLMQM4 The more general phenomenon seems to be called the Brachistochrome Problem https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Brac Jones Frank Grimer wrote:

### Re: [Vo]:Test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlSv_IlXmBg Two cars. Green low road car arrives first. Real or Fake. Please explain your choice. On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 07:55, Frank Grimer <88.fr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >

No text Frank Grimer wrote: Test of text

### Re: [Vo]:Test mx1

Watch out where the huskies go And don't you eat that yellow snow. On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 6:07 AM wrote: > > Testing from mx1 >

### Re: [Vo]:test

Working now. There was a glitch yesterday.

### RE: [Vo]:test

I received Beaty test. Bob Cook Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: leaking pen Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:24:59 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:test didnt get it. sorry. On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9

### Re: [Vo]:test

didnt get it. sorry. On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9:14 PM William Beaty wrote: > test > >

Thanks Jed! This was indeed an automated spamfilter change causing the problem. I'll keep an eye on the spambox more often now. Good you sent me a response to my private mail address too, otherwise it would have taken me longer to find out. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Jed Rothwell

Check your spam file. Gmail has suddenly started sending many of my Vortex messages to the spam file. Actually, it does not send them, because I have a filter set up to overrule it, but many messages say: *This message was not sent to Spam because of a filter you created.* (Your message said

Wow, same here! :O 2014-04-23 9:56 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: Check your spam file. Gmail has suddenly started sending many of my Vortex messages to the spam file. Actually, it does not send them, because I have a filter set up to overrule it, but many messages say: This

This happened to me recently. The solution that worked for me is to re-subscribe. To subscribe, send a *blank* message to: vortex-l-requ...@eskimo.com Put the single word subscribe in the subject line of the header. NOTHING else! No quotes around subscribe, of course. -Original

Confirmed here too! gmail has put vortex-l on the spam-list! I suppose that a number marking vortex-l messages as NOT SPAM would help the filter bot change its mind... 2014-04-23 16:16 GMT+02:00 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net: This happened to me recently. The solution that worked for me is

Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: Confirmed here too! gmail has put vortex-l on the spam-list! It is not just Vortex messages. I think the filter is being triggered by unusually short messages. Other short messages from various people have been marked as Spam lately. Google

### RE: [Vo]:Test - Pinging Vortex

Vortex let this go through. But then it clamped down again. I still can't post a new subject thread. This is weird. Steve From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:32 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Test -

### Re: [Vo]:test for greek letters

:-) You never know what people will find useful. Harry On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:07 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Thanks H Veeder. These characters do text in Kindle while the font symbol does not. I updated my e book with these symbols and removed words like omega. Frank θ ω ε

### Re: [Vo]:test for greek letters

The one that is giving me trouble is phi a circle with a line though it. This is what Greek has: φ Φ They are not quite right. Here it is in symbol font. Φ Frank

### Re: [Vo]:test for greek letters

The second phi is the same as the 3rd symbol font phi in chrome. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:20 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: The one that is giving me trouble is phi a circle with a line though it. This is what Greek has: φ Φ They are not quite right. Here it is in symbol font.

### Re: [Vo]:test for greek letters

Thanks H Veeder. These characters do text in Kindle while the font symbol does not. I updated my e book with these symbols and removed words like omega. Frank θ ω ε ρ τ ψ υ ι ο π α σ δ φ γ η ς κ λ ζ χ ξ ω β ν μ Θ Ω Ε Ρ Τ Ψ Υ Ι Ο Π Α Σ Δ Φ Γ Η ς Κ Λ Ζ Χ Ξ Ω Β Ν Μ Harry

### Re: [Vo]:test for greek letters

Try this one. It's classical greek, a very interesting text from Socrates. So, you may test the abilities of google translate :) καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς Μωυσῆς ῞Ινα τί ἐζωγρήσατε πᾶν θῆλυ; αὗται γὰρ ἦσαν τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ κατὰ τὸ ῥῆμα Βαλααμ τοῦ ἀποστῆσαι καὶ ὑπεριδεῖν τὸ ῥῆμα κυρίου ἕνεκεν Φογωρ, καὶ

### Re: [Vo]:test for greek letters

Still Greek...in Chrome on XP SP3. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:36 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: This is a test to see if the greek letters I have copied and pasted into this message are preserved as they pass through the mail programs. The characters come from this site

### Re: [Vo]:test for greek letters

I get greek: running thunderbird on windows 7 Nigel On 16/02/2014 06:36, H Veeder wrote: This is a test to see if the greek letters I have copied and pasted into this message are preserved as they pass through the mail programs. The characters come from this site http://greek.typeit.org/

### Re: [Vo]:test for greek letters

And on Chrome. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote: I get greek: running thunderbird on windows 7 Nigel On 16/02/2014 06:36, H Veeder wrote: This is a test to see if the greek letters I have copied and pasted into this message are preserved as they

### Re: [Vo]:test for greek letters

This has been an enigma for me. There are Greek letters in the font symbol and just plain Greek letters. I could never quite figure out what the difference is. Kindle does not text symbol characters. That's been a problem. I will try these. Frank

### Re: [Vo]:test for greek letters

perfect greek. now I wait for news in greek ;-) any one for news in chinese (old news) 近日，国家低碳能源规划研究院院长 、高灵能源投资股份有限公司总裁戴思嘉在东钓鱼台‘星湖园温泉庄园’会见了美国切诺基基金联合主席托马斯·达顿，双方就美国方面的镍发电能源技术问题，进行了系统的交流磋商，就共同合作推进这一革命性的能源技术达成了一致认识。国家发改委和国务院国资委以及国家能源局的有关领导一同参加了会见。

### Re: [Vo]:Test Message

Mason Ainsworth lenr_belie...@hotmail.com wrote: Please respond if you don't get this.[image: Emoji] How can you respond if you do not get something?! Raise your hand if you absent from class. Perhaps you refer to the emoji (絵文字). That did not come through. This is a primitive mailing list.

### RE: [Vo]:Test Message

generally recognized as being invented about 3200 BCE concerning a technology hopefully reaching the stage of practical implementation 'relatively' soon. It will work for me. Mason Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 21:29:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Test Message From: jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

budget projects. Fran From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alain Sepeda Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 5:41 PM To: Vortex List Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR? it seems National instruments asked such doublinded test in 2012, according

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote: it seems National instruments asked such doublinded test in 2012, according to the conference of Concezz in Rome (and Brussels)... Do you have any better links, I find this test interesting a.t.m. Of cause when the

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

Tell me if I'm spaming ... On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: But I would like to keep the discussion to the original FP experiment. Ah, yes. Sounds good.

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

I think that comparative calorimetry is not accpetable, not needed, given the hysteric level of skepticism and the high COP. Absolute measurement of heat, not even with blank, should be the only and best solution. no hysterical skeptic will assume the blank is sincere, ... even the absolute

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: I think that comparative calorimetry is not accpetable, not needed, given the hysteric level of skepticism and the high COP. I agree, but you do need a good calibration before and after the test. I suppose that amounts to the same thing as comparative

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: I think that comparative calorimetry is not accpetable, not needed, given the hysteric level of skepticism and the high COP. Absolute measurement of heat, not even with blank, should be the only and best solution.

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: I think that comparative calorimetry is not accpetable, not needed, given the hysteric level of skepticism and the high COP. I agree, but you do need a good calibration

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: My take on this is that 'unusual method' depends a bit on the standard practices in a field of science. If for example it is easy to perform a test with good enough energy surplus, then we only need to supply the numbers like, take every

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: Tell me if I'm spaming ... Not in the slightest. You seem to know something about statistics. I hope you will be very critical and complain about any mistaken reasoning you see. There are many electrical

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

yes, and seeing the story of LENR compared to other extraordinary claims, I think that the problem of LENr is that it requires much intelligence, competence, trust in instruments, in computation, in good protocol, that it is too easy for a lazy mind (like me sometime) to quickly conclude that it

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice to get some statistics out of that, any links? Although this is a reasonable request, there are two difficulties in addressing it. The first is that the experiments span a range of

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

Hi, On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: H0: the seen effect if it's seen, does not depend on the type of water H1: It does depend on the type of water. I think this would be an interesting test to whether there is a possible isotope effect.

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

I wrote: So if the test concerns the *existence* of LENR, rather than a parameter that affects it, I think another control should be sought out. Whatever that other control is (input power turned off, a different substrate or cathode, or some other property), could be varied in the manner you

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

Hi Eric, I'm not up to speed with your emails. The LENR+ type of activities is still something that if proper tests are done and affirmative, will be much more interesting, this is clear. But I would like to keep the discussion to the original FP experiment. I think this would be an

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

it seems National instruments asked such doublinded test in 2012, according to the conference of Concezz in Rome (and Brussels)... about industrial claims, there is similar concern, not of doubleblind, but because of suspected fraud by testers. One big fear of industrialist is when the tester

### Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?

On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: But I would like to keep the discussion to the original FP experiment. Ah, yes. Sounds good. It seems you are pretty familiar with the details, then. There is a reason why heavy water is typically

### Re: [Vo]:test

I see you On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Vortex, are you down? -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

### Re: [Vo]:test

The list got too skeptical ? Demanded two-factor authorization? =8-(

### Re: [Vo]:test

Test response. Message received. Other messages not posting.

### Re: [Vo]:test

Thanks, Bill! On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com

### Re: [Vo]:test

a c c d true false false true antidisetablishmentarianism , because sailing, travel, and monster stories were popular, thus Moby Dick was a preemptive commercial success. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 7:04 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) )

### Re: [Vo]:test

OK Bill On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:04 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com

### Re: [Vo]:test

I'll pong even though you didn't ping. Maybe I should just take a shower ;) On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 2:04 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website

Test response. Let's see if James Bowery is right and this is something at my end. - Jed

Nope. No recursive explosion of Re: Re: Re: It must be something like the dash in the title. The Eskimo.com mail system is bonkers. - Jed

The reason I said it is at your end is that when I responded to the same threads, no explosion happened whereas when you responded, it did happen. At least that's the way it appeared at this end. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Nope. No recursive

### [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Test message reproducing the – problem

A test response. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:26 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: This is a test to determine whether the problem with response prefix explosion was caused by funny windows characters such as – which appeared in the title of the prior thread.

### [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Test message reproducing the – problem

Yep. Thank you, world's richest man. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:27 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: A test response. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:26 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: This is a test to determine whether the problem with response prefix explosion was caused

### [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Test message reproducing the – problem

James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Thank you, world's richest man. Probably not Microsoft's fault. But hey, let't blame 'em! They are guilty of a lot of things. - Jed

### Re: [Vo]:test, is it alive?

nothing observed On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:07 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: eskimo.com ISP is transferring the software to a new machine. Something went wrong? (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. Beaty

### Re: [Vo]:test, is it alive?

It has been down for a couple of days. I monitor the eskimo yahoo group and did not see any notice. Maybe they didn't give one? :-) On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:07 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: eskimo.com ISP is transferring the software to a new machine. Something went wrong?

### Re: [Vo]:test massage

the list was hiccuping earlier On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: a little to the right

### Re: [Vo]:test

From Terry. Post it in docs.google.com I finally posted my scribblings under the subject thread: Groking CoAM, Kepler and Rossi as a txt file. Nothing appears to have gotten terribly garbled. BTW, I noticed that Google is upgrading docs.google.com to drive.google.com Under new management.

### Re: [Vo]:test

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:01 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, I noticed that Google is upgrading docs.google.com to drive.google.com Good movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780504/ Better movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1502404/ Hot movie:

### Re: [Vo]:test

No, try again. T On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:47 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Is this getting through? svj

### Re: [Vo]:test

Eskimo.com is replacing the mail server with new h/w and s/w. Some hiccups have been experienced of late; but, patience will be a virtue. T On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: No, try again. T On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:47 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent

### RE: [Vo]:test

Drat! I'm trying to send a post in HTML format because it contains some font changes to make it easier to read some formulas. I got it down to under 40k but Vortex-l still doesn't like it. Oh, well... I'll send it in raw text format. Screw the fancy fonts! Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson

### Re: [Vo]:test

Post it in docs.google.com T On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:15 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Drat! I'm trying to send a post in HTML format because it contains some font changes to make it easier to read some formulas. I got it down to under 40k but

### RE: [Vo]:test

Subject: Re: [Vo]:test Post it in docs.google.com T On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:15 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Drat! I'm trying to send a post in HTML format because it contains some font changes to make it easier to read some formulas. I got it down

### Re: [Vo]:Test

Watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow! T On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Nanook nan...@eskimo.com wrote: Testing list processing. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-  Eskimo North Linux Friendly Internet Access, Shell

test passed!

### RE: [Vo]:Test for the Existence of Carbon Nanotubes

I don't know about nanotubes, but b-fullerene is soluable in something easy and it turns it purpleish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullerene http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19655724 -Original Message- From: Jojo Jaro [mailto:jth...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:53

### RE: [Vo]:Test for the Existence of Carbon Nanotubes

That was helpful... -m -Original Message- From: Иванов Михаил [mailto:i-...@yandex.ru] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Test for the Existence of Carbon Nanotubes test passed!

test passed!

### Re: [Vo]:Test for the Existence of Carbon Nanotubes

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langmuir_probe Langmuir probe A *Langmuir probe* is a device named after Nobel Prizehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prizewinning physicist Irving Langmuir http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Langmuir, used to determine the electron temperature,

test passed!

### Re: [Vo]:test

Peter, Received Thanks! On Saturday, June 2, 2012, Peter Gluck wrote: test -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

### Re: [Vo]:test, ignore

I cannot ignore. I'M IN LOVE! 2012/4/30 William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com yet another test -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

### RE: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

Shoot! I have to respond to this. NOONE, PLEASE CHECK YOUR PERSONAL RETURN EMAIL SETTINGS WHEN YOU RESPOND TO POSTS IN VORTEX-L. EVERYONE WHO ATTEMPTS TO RESPOND TO YOUR VORTEX POSTS ARE CONSTANTLY IN DANGER OF SENDING EMAIL TO YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL ACCOUNT, NOT TO VORTEX-L. WE HAVE TO MANUALLY

### RE: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

Noone^2 wrote: I not a very jovial person. Yaaa think? J Whatever the baggage you're carrying around with you, don't you think it's time to let it go? It does nothing by make one's life miserable and full of drama. -m

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

But whose technology are they going to be testing? Possibility #1 -- Their own tech they developed from scratch. (THIS WOULD BE WORTH CELEBRATING!) Possibility #2 -- A copy cat of Rossi's technology, using his intellectual property without permission. (This would be a horrible tragedy.)

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

hope they sell a billion Hyperions. From: Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com To: noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time If the devices work, I think all options are OK.  Apple

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com To: noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time from the data they give : the H2 pressure is higher (50bars) no radiofrequency capacity to work much above 400C (600C,900C) many catalyst tested

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

breakthrough that will change the world. From: Charly Sistovaris charlysi...@gmail.com To: noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time #1 I doubt it #2 #3 the only tragedy is if ecat's a hoax

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

The way i see it (thanks to Jed) the first paper about Ni-H goes back to 1979, and the first Focardi paper about Ni-H was published in 1994. Now, as far as i know,  Defkalion has not sold any Hyperion yet. But if the tests are conclusive the most important result will be that all doubts about

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

I wonder where the test protocols are... It's by now nearly 16:00 in Athens, so when do the tests start? The protocols should be published before the tests begin AFAIK. The way i see it (thanks to Jed) the first paper about Ni-H goes back to 1979, and the first Focardi paper about Ni-H was

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote: Possibility #2 -- A copy cat of Rossi's technology, using his intellectual property without permission. (This would be a horrible tragedy.) Nonsense. Companies use technology all the time without permission. This would not be a horrible tragedy; it

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

maybe they change their idea, under the demand of the tester, to avoid the crazy behavior of fans and pathoskeptics. also maybe the testers don't wan't to be identified before the test succeed to avoid looking ridiculous... cold fusion is really frightening for corp and officials... I feel like

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

Hm wouldn't it be better if they would announce such a change? Now i am sitting here and constantly hitting F5 on my keyboard with the opened Defkalion site in front of me ;) maybe they change their idea, under the demand of the tester, to avoid the crazy behavior of fans and pathoskeptics.

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

From Jed, noone noone wrote: Possibility #2 -- A copy cat of Rossi's technology, using his intellectual property without permission. (This would be a horrible tragedy.) Nonsense. I agree, What well-known company has not filed suit against a potential competitor for daring to kick the

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

It's just b'ness. Leave tragedy to the novels. On Friday, February 24, 2012, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: From Jed, noone noone wrote: Possibility #2 -- A copy cat of Rossi's technology, using his intellectual property without permission. (This would be

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

Indeed Jed, I found this somewhat hilarious, that people (e.g. Noone noone) are accusing Defkalion about IP-theft. I have previously stated, that current patent legislation is outdated, because the benefit of IP-rights cannot even remotely offset, the cost of lawyers and bureaucracy involved

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

. From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote:   Possibility #2 -- A copy cat of Rossi's technology, using his intellectual property without

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

, so be it. From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time From Jed, noone noone  wrote: Possibility #2 -- A copy cat of Rossi's

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

prize. I hope his mission in life becomes to stop anyone who has used his technology without permission. From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time noone noone thesteornpa

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

...@hotmail.com To: noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time That's not going to happen.  Almost everyone who has made a lot of money off of new technology has stolen

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com Indeed Jed, I found this somewhat hilarious, that people (e.g. Noone noone) are accusing Defkalion about IP-theft. I do not think he is accusing them of anything. He is just saying that hypothetically, if they did steal it (the way Rossi has alleged, that

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

noone noone sez: If I invented a billion dollar technology and someone copied it without my permission, I would not accept a trillion dollars from a lawsuit. The only thing I would accept is for the other company to be forced to re-call all their products. Then I would make money by

### Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

the world is going, individuals are having their rights violated more and more each day. From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time