Re: [vos-d] Re: Python scripting

[Reed Hedges]

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Peter Amstutz wrote:

> Yea, it sounds like Lalo has something different in mind, so perhaps the
> way to go is to go ahead with two different Python bindings and
> eventually have a "bake-off" to decide which is better :-)\

Lalo, ideally your API would be almost the same as the existing bindings
(except extended to be more "Pythonic" where appropriate), do you think?


Reed

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[vos-d] Re: Python scripting

[Lalo Martins]

And so says Reed Hedges on 12/02/06 04:12...
> One thing, I wonder what the need for the ProxyListener is?   If you
> want to use a message handler instead of a listener, you just have to
> handle the "update" messages.   On the other hand, having API
> specifically for implementing listeners is extremely convenient, and I
> recommend including that in your Python API.

There is no need for the ProxyListener, and it's going to get dropped
from the design.  When I wrote the design doc, I didn't remember the
internal workings of VOS very well - if you annotate the file you will
see many other mistakes which are already corrected.  In this case, when
I discovered that updates are simply another kind of message, I was like
"hah, cool" :-)

best,
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Re: [vos-d] Minimum WX version?

[Peter Amstutz]

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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Reed Hedges wrote:


What is the minimum WxWidgets version we are supporting for compiling
wxTerangreal? 2.4 or 2.6?


As far as I am concerned, I am only developing with 2.6.  I guess if it is 
relatively easy we can continue to support 2.4, but it seems to me like 
it's mostly a hassle that doesn't buy us much.  Also the Crystal Space 
wxgl plugin is only set up to compile against 2.6, I think.


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Re: [vos-d] Increase terangreal window size?

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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Reed Hedges wrote:



May I change the initial window size of wxterangreal to 800x600? I think
that's a pretty safe size these days, and 640x480 is unusable.

Reed


Yes, go for it.  I'm glad to see you've found some time to work on this 
stuff :-)


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Re: [vos-d] Building 0.23.0-pre1 release on MacOS X

[Peter Amstutz]

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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Karsten Otto wrote:


Hello,

I am currently trying to build the current VOS prerelease (vos-0.23.0-pre1) 
on my G5 PowerMac,
but I encounter a number of problems. Did anybody succeed in compiling VOS on 
the Mac?

I would appreciate a few pointers...


Hi Kao, welcome back :-)

Could you try the CVS version?  If I recall correctly, I fixed a number of 
issues that came up in 0.23.0-pre1.  I have been meaning to put together a 
0.23.0-pre2 but haven't quite gotten around to it.  Perhaps tonight.



System details:
Mac OS X (10.4.4)
XCode 2.2 (using gcc 4.0.1)
current fink release, started with 0.8.0, updated and switched to unstable 
branch

installed boost1.32 package according to instructions fropm the VOS manual


I haven't had a chance to try it out on OS X.  While both my roommates 
each have Macs, I need to ask one of them to install the latest XCode.


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Re: [vos-d] Re: Python scripting

[Peter Amstutz]

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On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, Reed Hedges wrote:


Pete, have you *tried* to modify the swig interface file?  It's really
quite difficult and not easily maintainable without being a Swig guru.
OR maybe our interface file is just messed up.


While I haven't worked with it recently, I have written quite a bit of 
SWIG code and while it isn't the easiest thing in the world, it much less 
effort than would be required to write the equivilent code by hand.



Anyway, not to say that Swig isn't the solution for the most *complete*
binding, but if Lalo needs to do it *now* in order to implement usable
scripting for message handlers and listeners, then that's more important.


Yea, it sounds like Lalo has something different in mind, so perhaps the 
way to go is to go ahead with two different Python bindings and eventually 
have a "bake-off" to decide which is better :-)


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Re: [vos-d] Code bounty - uBrowser (FireFox on OpenGL)

[Peter Amstutz]

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On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, Or Botton wrote:

The guys from LindenLab (SecondLife) have been hard at work trying to 
implement FireFox into their virtual-world enviroment. So far it looks 
pretty good - check this out: http://ubrowser.com/


Their own CrystalZilla, so to speak. FireFox in 3D.


Callum Prentice actually approached me back last April and wanted to 
contract me to work on Crystalzilla for them.  I wanted to do it, but my 
day job got busy and so I didn't have the time.  So Crystalzilla could 
have been ubrowser, but things didn't work out that way.


They've encountered a problem though, and its name is work load. So, to 
speed things up abit... LindenLab's Cory is now offering a code bounty. 
Anyone who can fix the issue he's discussing will get a free region in 
SecondLife, with the payments paid for a year. (Thats a 195$ monthly 
worth of 'land'). If you can solve other issues, there's other benefits.


Details here: http://secondlife.blogs.com/prompt/2006/02/firefox_ubrowse.html


Looks like they're trying to get Flash working...  Plugins have been a big 
problem for people trying to get Firefox to render off-screen.


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Re: [vos-d] Python scripting

[Reed Hedges]

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Lalo Martins wrote:
> I have a semi-functional extension for "server-side" python scripting.
> You can `bzr get` it from http://lalo.revisioncontrol.net/bzr/vos-python/
> 


One thing, I wonder what the need for the ProxyListener is?   If you
want to use a message handler instead of a listener, you just have to
handle the "update" messages.   On the other hand, having API
specifically for implementing listeners is extremely convenient, and I
recommend including that in your Python API.


Reed


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[vos-d] Minimum WX version?

[Reed Hedges]

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What is the minimum WxWidgets version we are supporting for compiling
wxTerangreal? 2.4 or 2.6?
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[vos-d] Increase terangreal window size?

[Reed Hedges]

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May I change the initial window size of wxterangreal to 800x600? I think
that's a pretty safe size these days, and 640x480 is unusable.

Reed


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[vos-d] [Fwd: 'Second Life' For Linux: Alpha Download Available]

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