Re: [vos-d] Project: Zephan

2008-07-30 Thread Peter Amstutz
and news will be on my web site and on flickr in the upcoming weeks. Reed -- http://interreality.org/~reed ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz

[vos-d] getting back on track

2008-07-02 Thread Peter Amstutz
I have resolved the immediate issues with my development environment, we'll have to restart the conversation on design and strategy. [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation

Re: [vos-d] s5 properties again

2008-05-03 Thread Peter Amstutz
this impass. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey: pgpkeys.mit.edu 18C21DF7

[vos-d] s5 properties proposal

2008-05-03 Thread Peter Amstutz
that avoids these disadvantages. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey: pgpkeys.mit.edu

[vos-d] s5 properties again

2008-05-01 Thread Peter Amstutz
, but it does mean some work redesigning the VOS APIs, the XOD format, changing the code generator, etc) Thoughts? -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication

Re: [vos-d] s5 vobject properties

2008-04-24 Thread Peter Amstutz
by overriding the embedded property with a dynamic property linking to the shared value. This idea is still a little half baked, so I will follow up with examples when I have nailed the design down a bit more. [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project

Re: [vos-d] More new S5 classes/concepts

2008-03-04 Thread Peter Amstutz
-- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey: pgpkeys.mit.edu 18C21DF7 ] signature.asc

[vos-d] serialization

2008-03-04 Thread Peter Amstutz
, JSON etc serializers, and message encoding for VOS network protocols will probably be built on the serialization framework as well. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet

Re: [vos-d] templates/macros

2008-03-03 Thread Peter Amstutz
-0500, Reed Hedges wrote: Peter Amstutz wrote: The idea is to set up Template vobjects which have TemplateParameters which are stand-ins for links other objects and are substituted when you actually create a template instance. The TemplateInstance vobject links to the template and some

Re: [vos-d] Website design ideas

2008-02-18 Thread Peter Amstutz
/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey: pgpkeys.mit.edu

[vos-d] templates/macros

2008-02-18 Thread Peter Amstutz
=UInt8DynamicArrayProperty type=/vos/core/TemplateInstance child name=template linkTo=/vos/core/DynamicArrayProperty / child name=memberType linkTo=/vos/core/UInt8 / /vobject -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality

Re: [vos-d] s5 site ids

2008-02-12 Thread Peter Amstutz
, in the general case, we need to come up with ways like this to help users navigate vobjects, whether in a particular application or in VOS stuff like this, without having to put a lot of special stuff in the user interface clients. Reed -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: [vos-d] s5 site ids

2008-02-11 Thread Peter Amstutz
concepts in s5 is that ownership of a private key implies the ability (and responsibility) to coordinate changes to that site so that you don't have conflicting replicas floating around from different sources. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Lead Programmer][Interreality

Re: [vos-d] s5 site ids

2008-02-08 Thread Peter Amstutz
need to write a tool that spits out public/private keypairs for use with VOS. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http

Re: [vos-d] More new S5 classes/concepts

2008-01-30 Thread Peter Amstutz
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 03:28:57PM +, Lalo Martins wrote: Also spracht Peter Amstutz (Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:38:04 -0500): (lots of clarifications on s5 concepts/classes) On that note... can we have a documenting property (akin to Python's docstrings and __doc__)? Preferably with nice

Re: [vos-d] More new S5 classes/concepts

2008-01-27 Thread Peter Amstutz
Scene Graph and Lightfeather.) The new A3DL design is pretty preliminary and not actually implemented at all. I'll go over it when I've actually put a bit more work into it and there is some code that actually does something. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Lead

Re: [vos-d] MVC

2007-12-10 Thread Peter Amstutz
in implementing MVC controllers. There are a few checked in to the s4 repository (some that do math or reformat property values), and I have more ideas listed at http://interreality.org/wiki/ApplicationVosToolbox Reed -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer

Re: [vos-d] s5 progress and design

2007-12-06 Thread Peter Amstutz
very very different semantics. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey

Re: [vos-d] s5 progress and design

2007-12-06 Thread Peter Amstutz
an artifact of the implementation. Languages with better metaprogramming facilities (meta object protocols, in the traditional academic sense) and hopefully script language bindings should not require this technique. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer

Re: [vos-d] s5 progress and design

2007-12-05 Thread Peter Amstutz
VOS implemented in other languages (and not just through foreign function interfaces) and think it will be a better fit for higher-level languages that already provide garbage collection, reflection, marshaling, promises, continuations, etc. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL

Re: [vos-d] s5 progress and design

2007-12-05 Thread Peter Amstutz
the notion of our local copy of such objects being a replica, and if we know our local copy is up to date (by checking revisions) then it is trivial to service read requests using the local copy. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality

[vos-d] s5 progress and design

2007-12-04 Thread Peter Amstutz
=/OTD/vos/StructDataType/ child name=returnType linkTo=/OTD/vos/KeyPair / /vobject /vobject /vobject /vobject /site -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation

Re: [vos-d] s/MetaObject/Component

2007-11-29 Thread Peter Amstutz
, which will hopefully clarify things a bit. While for several months I was working part time to be able to devote time to VOS, I am presently working full time again for financial reasons, so VOS development is squeezed -- even writing email. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL

Re: [vos-d] s/MetaObject/Component

2007-11-29 Thread Peter Amstutz
or with their type interface classes (e.g. Property, Object3D, etc.) Reed ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead

Re: [vos-d] thinking about a new web site

2007-10-23 Thread Peter Amstutz
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 02:09:11PM +0200, hellekin wrote: On Mon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:58:07 -0400, Peter Amstutz wrote: Anybody want to help do a new site design? *** I can give a hand on the new version. Great! As I wrote in the previous email, I think want to keep more or less the same

Re: [vos-d] S5 and ordering listeners

2007-10-22 Thread Peter Amstutz
... Or are you trying to do some kind of filtering? I can't answer the questions without knowing what you're trying to acomplish. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation

Re: [vos-d] thinking about a new web site

2007-10-22 Thread Peter Amstutz
development has settled down a bit. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey

[vos-d] notes from IRC, pt 2

2007-10-22 Thread Peter Amstutz
will probably become clearer once its purpose is clearer. Lacking the ability to do any interesting browsing or editing (which depends on the backend to supply that data) it requires a bit of imagination to see what the workflow will be like, and how a configurable UI plays into that. -- [ Peter

[vos-d] notes from IRC

2007-10-19 Thread Peter Amstutz
for a particular application, and not one of policy - Key and mouse bindings could be reconfigurable by the end user. I think this idea of reconfiguring the UI for different worlds also fits nicely with the idea of beginning/advanced/task-specific UIs discussed at the top. -- [ Peter Amstutz

Re: [vos-d] notes from IRC

2007-10-19 Thread Peter Amstutz
you join a world, it could pop up a dialog saying, this would would like to set a custom UI, is that ok? As you mentioned, we'll have standard UI configurations that people can use as defaults or to build from to create their UIs. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED

[vos-d] interreality 3d 0.1 released

2007-10-19 Thread Peter Amstutz
at the vos-d discussion board at: http://interreality.org/phorum/ - If you find a crash, please file it with Bugzilla: http://interreality.org/bugzilla/ I hope you find this prototype interesting, and it is a sign of much more development to come! -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED

[vos-d] bugzilla

2007-10-18 Thread Peter Amstutz
Pending the release of the interreality 3d 0.1 user interface prototype (that's a mouthful) I have set up bugzilla for bug tracking and feature requests. It's accessable on the main page and at http://interreality.org/bugzilla -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED

[vos-d] cross-platform packaging

2007-09-25 Thread Peter Amstutz
browser-style navigation) but I want to put it to bed soon so we can start working on concrete functionality in the backend. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation

[vos-d] progress and planning

2007-09-25 Thread Peter Amstutz
play. The goal will be to address the needs both of games/entertainment (which are essentially discrete event simulations, albiet with rules that are intentionally unrealistic) and more serious applications such as AI and robotics research. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL

Re: [vos-d] progress and planning

2007-09-25 Thread Peter Amstutz
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 07:44:04PM +0100, Marcos Marado wrote: Hi there, and thanks for the update. On Tuesday 25 September 2007 18:28, Peter Amstutz wrote: b) Create installer packages. I want to have one-click install packages for Windows, OS X and one or two Linux distributions

Re: [vos-d] development

2007-08-21 Thread Peter Amstutz
the Blender - S5 Prototype export down to one click (writes the file, loads it into VOS for you). I'm hoping to have something for you all to see (UI prototype, with no network capability) in two to three weeks. Looking forward to it! -Steve Good to hear :-) -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL

[vos-d] development infrastructure

2007-07-22 Thread Peter Amstutz
planning for the hopefully not-too-distant future when we have several developers hacking on VOS and need to avoid stepping on each other's toes. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next

[vos-d] development plan

2007-07-22 Thread Peter Amstutz
(which could be a useful tool in its own right) without the networking, distributed computing and persistance pieces necessarily being ready yet. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next

[vos-d] s5 design

2007-07-22 Thread Peter Amstutz
in another email. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey: pgpkeys.mit.edu

Re: [vos-d] thoughts and plans

2007-06-29 Thread Peter Amstutz
more abstract. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey: pgpkeys.mit.edu 18C21DF7

Re: [vos-d] What do we want in the 0.24 release?

2007-06-29 Thread Peter Amstutz
is not too hard but would take a bit of work. ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer

Re: [vos-d] thoughts and plans

2007-06-29 Thread Peter Amstutz
mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http

Re: [vos-d] thoughts and plans

2007-06-27 Thread Peter Amstutz
that the extensions can grab on to. I'll see about replying to some of your other points about UI later (right now it's late.) -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication

Re: [vos-d] 3D engines

2007-06-27 Thread Peter Amstutz
on Ogre - like GOOF. chris On 27/06/07, Peter Amstutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many of the support features of various engines (map editors, or support for certain modeling programs) are less useful for us, since we will ultimately need to convert data to and from the engine-neutral A3DL data

[vos-d] thoughts and plans

2007-06-26 Thread Peter Amstutz
in for good measure. It's crazy, but it just might work. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org

[vos-d] 3D engines

2007-06-26 Thread Peter Amstutz
? Lightfeather: http://lf.mmdevel.de/news.php Crystal Space http://crystalspace3d.org Open Scene Graph http://www.openscenegraph.com Ogre http://www.ogre3d.org -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS

Re: [vos-d] Listener notifications in S5

2007-06-07 Thread Peter Amstutz
said than done, in other words. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey

Re: [vos-d] Errors building crystalspace

2007-05-30 Thread Peter Amstutz
. The main challenge wrt to CS plugins is that some plugins rely on other plugins, so it takes some work to actually determine which plugins we're using and which ones we arn't. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality

Re: [vos-d] Scaling and Origins -- 0.23 vs 0.24

2007-05-16 Thread Peter Amstutz
Life having to frequently distribute client patches and reboot their grid). So rest assured, it's something we're thinking about, and have been thinking about for a long time -- making it general purpose and doing it right is one of the reasons VOS development has taken so long. -- [ Peter

Re: [vos-d] Scaling and Origins -- 0.23 vs 0.24

2007-05-16 Thread Peter Amstutz
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 12:10:21PM -0400, Reed Hedges wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 10:18:34AM -0400, Peter Amstutz wrote: The bigger problem was I was doing something dumb in 0.23, which was the code that loads the md2 models for avatars recenters it to make the origin the center

Re: [vos-d] delineation and revision control

2007-05-09 Thread Peter Amstutz
aspects of the site itself, which are scenery, and which are avatars. Any suggestions? Regards, Karsten Otto (kao) ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz

Re: [vos-d] Van Jacobson: named data -- revision control

2007-05-09 Thread Peter Amstutz
any such standards; but it is often worthwhile to take a good look at how similar problems have been tackled, for better or worse. Otherwise you risk spending mucho time reinventing various types of wheels. -dbm -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead

Re: [vos-d] Van Jacobson: named data

2007-05-08 Thread Peter Amstutz
. They have the designs but like the Canadians who tried to rebuild the V2 engines for their contest submission, they don't know how to run them and it turns out the devil is really in the details. len -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality

Re: [vos-d] Van Jacobson: named data -- revision control

2007-05-08 Thread Peter Amstutz
version on the site to decide if you need to synchronize or not. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http

Re: [vos-d] Van Jacobson: named data

2007-05-07 Thread Peter Amstutz
of time and version as related to state changes. If anyone thinks this is fanciful, this actually cuts right to the core of how remote vobjects work, and how we eventually handle caching -- central issues to the s5 redesign. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [vos-d] Jerky avatar movement (was Re: Patches for 0.24 in MSVC)

2007-05-05 Thread Peter Amstutz
the semantics of property updates to handle this better, but that's more of something to consider for s5... -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http

Re: [vos-d] Movement interpolation update

2007-05-05 Thread Peter Amstutz
notify events should be combined. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey

Re: [vos-d] build system reviews (long)

2007-04-27 Thread Peter Amstutz
:21 -0400, Reed Hedges wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 11:07:11PM -0400, Peter Amstutz wrote: [1] Although there is a case to be made that such files should be included in your repository anyway, since there are people who might want to check out the latest source for something but still

Re: [vos-d] s5 scripting (design part 3)

2007-04-26 Thread Peter Amstutz
the time to implement it. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey: pgpkeys.mit.edu

Re: [vos-d] VOS on Solaris?

2007-04-25 Thread Peter Amstutz
ssh/remote X access and was not at the console). Would it help to give an account on a Solaris/Sparc box? Of course, ssh again. It would help, except that right now my time is severly limited so I don't know when I would actually be able to do it. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL

Re: [vos-d] VOS on Solaris?

2007-04-25 Thread Peter Amstutz
on various systems like Solaris? Yes. Although the software I've seen that uses jam typically includes the jam source code in a tools directory, along with a shell script or batch script to bootstrap it (the script builds jam and then uses jam to build itself). -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL

Re: [vos-d] Patches for 0.24 in MSVC

2007-04-25 Thread Peter Amstutz
: include/wx/msw/setup.h - define wxUSE_GLCANVAS to 1 **PORT** **FIX** src/msw/main.cpp - change WXMAKINGDLL to WXMAKINGDLL_CORE **BUG** **FIX** Enjoy! -Ken -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality

Re: [vos-d] build system reviews (long)

2007-04-25 Thread Peter Amstutz
/ ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http

Re: [vos-d] Movement interpolation in csplugin

2007-04-24 Thread Peter Amstutz
-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey

Re: [vos-d] s5 scripting (design part 3)

2007-04-24 Thread Peter Amstutz
translation layer that lets one run scripts wrtten for VRML nodes in a VOS world. This could facilitate importing VRML files transparently. Peter Amstutz wrote: Third in a four part series on major design changes in s5 (What could also be called VOS Apocalypse) Scripting. One

Re: [vos-d] Metaverse Roadmap

2007-04-20 Thread Peter Amstutz
___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http

[vos-d] Lindens opening up the Second Life server

2007-04-20 Thread Peter Amstutz
... -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey: pgpkeys.mit.edu 18C21DF7

[vos-d] s5 scripting (design part 3)

2007-04-20 Thread Peter Amstutz
all the work. So instead of stitching together a half-assed 3D engine, a half-assed database and a half-assed scripting language all created in-house, we can create a best-of-breed system that ties together the best of each category. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL

Re: [vos-d] S5 and single-thread option

2007-04-20 Thread Peter Amstutz
database if they arn't being used. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey

Re: [vos-d] URL::parse problem

2007-04-19 Thread Peter Amstutz
___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet

Re: [vos-d] Integration of VOS and IRC

2007-04-18 Thread Peter Amstutz
18, 2007 at 11:16:43AM +0100, Marcos Marado wrote: On Wednesday 18 April 2007 09:26, Karsten Otto wrote: Am 17.04.2007 um 19:54 schrieb Peter Amstutz: [...] Also something I've wanted to explore is the possibility of creating a semantic representation of a space that is meaningful

Re: [vos-d] Thinking about Javascript

2007-04-18 Thread Peter Amstutz
application focused on Question and Answer customer support, as well as general forum discussion. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http

Re: [vos-d] VOP patches for 0.23.0

2007-04-17 Thread Peter Amstutz
) -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey: pgpkeys.mit.edu 18C21DF7

Re: [vos-d] Terangreal crash

2007-04-17 Thread Peter Amstutz
the value of supporting multiple protocols that focus on different aspects like performance or ease of interoperability -- hopefully s5 will finally support multiple protocols within a single session :-) -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality

Re: [vos-d] Got wxTerangreal to build in MSVC++!

2007-04-17 Thread Peter Amstutz
be back online.) -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey: pgpkeys.mit.edu

Re: [vos-d] Integration of VOS and IRC

2007-04-17 Thread Peter Amstutz
really be interested in this. -- Marcos Marado Sonaecom IT ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer

Re: [vos-d] s5 concurrency (design part 2)

2007-04-12 Thread Peter Amstutz
, but for the particular case of mobile code (downloaded to the client or uploaded to the server and executed automatically) where it is necessaray to provide a constrained, secure environment. A pretty fundamental aspect of security is not being able to hijack the host application's computation. -- [ Peter

Re: [vos-d] s5 concurrency (design part 2)

2007-04-12 Thread Peter Amstutz
concurrent entity which can exchange messages with other actors, create new actors, and designate the behavior for each message received. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next

[vos-d] terangreal changes

2007-04-12 Thread Peter Amstutz
in vos/apps/omnivos/ for the work in progress. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron

Re: [vos-d] s5 concurrency (design part 2)

2007-04-12 Thread Peter Amstutz
=vobject / param name=text type=string / param name=scope type=uint16 / param name=priority type=uint8 / param name=in-reply-to type=uint32 / /method /class /namespace /interfaces -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead

Re: [vos-d] terangreal changes

2007-04-12 Thread Peter Amstutz
are a different story, and that's worth thinking about. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org

Re: [vos-d] s5 concurrency (design part 2)

2007-04-11 Thread Peter Amstutz
scheduling. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey: pgpkeys.mit.edu 18C21DF7

Re: [vos-d] s5 concurrency (design part 2)

2007-04-10 Thread Peter Amstutz
systems in the same way that has been done for OS threads. Most portable user-level thread libraries I have found actually use setjmp/longjmp, which doesn't preserve the stack. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality

Re: [vos-d] s5 concurrency (design part 2)

2007-04-09 Thread Peter Amstutz
it) Well, it's a model, not a precise specification. The basic goal here is to define how flow-of-control works in a concurrent VOS application, in a way that is easy for users to grasp and prevents deadlocks and race conditions. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [vos-d] misc:search questions

2007-04-09 Thread Peter Amstutz
attempt a denial of service attack by issuing multiple searches, it should not enable them to access data they wouldn't be able to access otherwise. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS

Re: [vos-d] bakefiles

2007-04-04 Thread Peter Amstutz
offer that might tip the decision in their favor. Incidentally, it's probably possible to write a bakefile backend to produce Jam and Scons files ;-) -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS

[vos-d] s5 concurrency (design part 2)

2007-04-04 Thread Peter Amstutz
, the pure message passing/actor model greatly facilitates cross-language method calls (scripting!) which I will discuss in my next s5 design email. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next

Re: [vos-d] Flux Worlds Server Announcement

2007-04-02 Thread Peter Amstutz
-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http

Re: [vos-d] Flux Worlds Server Announcement

2007-04-02 Thread Peter Amstutz
and feel was a deliberate design decision, not because it was easier (because it's not, it actually makes some things a lot harder.) -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation

Re: [vos-d] bakefiles

2007-04-01 Thread Peter Amstutz
of extra jam rules and a perl templating system, so it's not easy. That said, adopting the (jam-based) Crystal Space build system as a whole may be worth looking in to. Finally, I guess I really should try out scons. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead

Re: [vos-d] Spam on wiki

2007-03-31 Thread Peter Amstutz
vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org

[vos-d] bakefiles

2007-03-31 Thread Peter Amstutz
at some level (except for scons, which I haven't used.) -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org

Re: [vos-d] s5 design overview

2007-03-29 Thread Peter Amstutz
to support one million vobjects on a single site, on reasonable hardware. We'll be doing benchmarks. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http

Re: [vos-d] How to host a product design dinner party

2007-03-21 Thread Peter Amstutz
, Mar 20, 2007 at 11:13:09AM -0400, Reed Hedges wrote: http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2007/03/how_to_host_a_p.html -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next

Re: [vos-d] How to host a product design dinner party

2007-03-21 Thread Peter Amstutz
is about communicating objects and not documents. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron

Re: [vos-d] How to host a product design dinner party

2007-03-21 Thread Peter Amstutz
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Amstutz It's an OK analogy but only if you don't then start applying assumptions to VOS based on what XML is for and what it's restrictions are. Right. I'd only use this analogy with someone who already has a vague idea that VOS is about

Re: [vos-d] http://research.sun.com/projects/darkstar/

2007-03-16 Thread Peter Amstutz
mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http

Re: [vos-d] VOS making Moneys.

2007-03-16 Thread Peter Amstutz
support for new filesystems, as well as child-binary emulation support, perhaps more advanced than WINE, since it aims at more than just Windows. -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next

Re: [vos-d] http://research.sun.com/projects/darkstar/

2007-03-16 Thread Peter Amstutz
that they actually mean it. On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:27:49AM -0700, HEBLACK, J wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 09:57 -0400, Peter Amstutz wrote: It's potentially interesting, although the details seem a bit thin at the moment -- there doesn't seem to be any obvious documentation on its

Re: [vos-d] XOD questions

2007-03-16 Thread Peter Amstutz
it. The schema is useful for the x3d-edit utility, but even then, not too many peole edit graphics like a document unless the are already very familiar with the tree. len -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality

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