Re: [vos-d] "Donate to Interreality"
Oh believe me, we have plenty of experience running servers out of an apartment over both cable and DSL [1], and it's not worth the effort. Running a server over a cable modem is slow (poor upload speed), unreliable, has dynamic IP addresses, stupid rules about running servers (you're not supposed to), tend to be blacklisted by other mail hosts (because most mail coming from residential IP blocks is zombie boxes sending spam) and if the power goes out most likely your server goes down. [1] Fiber still isn't available in most areas, and a straight T1 line runs something like $250/month. So in my experience it's worth the cost to take that server and put it on a rack in a data center with fast connection to the backbone, a static IP, redundant power and network hookups and a policy that says you can do whatever you want (except send spam :-) On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 12:47:14AM -0700, S Mattison wrote: > Ouch! > > You know, I used to run my own webserver off of my 800mhz Windows98 laptop, > over dialup? A simple DSL connection would cost maybe 25$ a month, and > leaving your machine on overnight all month; negligible price. The cost of > the server software? Absolutely free. Of course, the domain name costs you, > what, 5$ yearly? > > Overall, in my opinion, it would save you over 800$ if you ran your own > server, as compared to what it's costing now. (Interreality isn't on a T-1 > line, is it? Because that's about how much a fiber-optic line in your home > would cost...) > > -Steve -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey: pgpkeys.mit.edu 18C21DF7 ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d
Re: [vos-d] "Donate to Interreality"
Ouch! You know, I used to run my own webserver off of my 800mhz Windows98 laptop, over dialup? A simple DSL connection would cost maybe 25$ a month, and leaving your machine on overnight all month; negligible price. The cost of the server software? Absolutely free. Of course, the domain name costs you, what, 5$ yearly? Overall, in my opinion, it would save you over 800$ if you ran your own server, as compared to what it's costing now. (Interreality isn't on a T-1 line, is it? Because that's about how much a fiber-optic line in your home would cost...) -Steve On 1/16/07, Peter Amstutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, to really support VOS development we need to raise thousands of dollars (since we're talking about me being able to live independently for at least a year). Anything less than that won't do more than help defer the cost of the server that hosts interreality.org (which, if you are wondering, is on colocation hosting and costs about $100 a month, currently out of my pocket). ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d
Re: [vos-d] "Donate to Interreality"
Reed Hedges wrote: > Ken Taylor wrote: > > but if it makes > > you feel better, I certainly would click on the little "Donate to > > Interreality" paypal button if it ever appears ;) > > There's a link at the bottom of the webpage to a list of relevant books > and things on amazon, and we get a few bucks if you buy from that. Unfortunately, for every few bucks you get, Amazon.com gets a lot of bucks. And the local used book sellers in my area don't get any :P I have been needing to pick up a copy of Neuromancer at some point though... hm Ken ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d
Re: [vos-d] "Donate to Interreality"
Well, to really support VOS development we need to raise thousands of dollars (since we're talking about me being able to live independently for at least a year). Anything less than that won't do more than help defer the cost of the server that hosts interreality.org (which, if you are wondering, is on colocation hosting and costs about $100 a month, currently out of my pocket). That said, there will probably come a point where I'll be making a serious fundraising effort, but that's a little bit in the future. I'm still in the planning stage at this point. Writing a business plan is almost as hard as writing software, but with none of the satisfaction of knowing you're done when it works ;-) On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 08:54:51PM -0500, Reed Hedges wrote: > Ken Taylor wrote: > > but if it makes > > you feel better, I certainly would click on the little "Donate to > > Interreality" paypal button if it ever appears ;) > > There's a link at the bottom of the webpage to a list of relevant books > and things on amazon, and we get a few bucks if you buy from that. > > Any suggestions on things to add to it? > > Reed > > ___ > vos-d mailing list > vos-d@interreality.org > http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d -- [ Peter Amstutz ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [Lead Programmer][Interreality Project][Virtual Reality for the Internet] [ VOS: Next Generation Internet Communication][ http://interreality.org ] [ http://interreality.org/~tetron ][ pgpkey: pgpkeys.mit.edu 18C21DF7 ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d
