Re: [vox-tech] Mythbox hardward compatibility
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:31:44 +, Matthew Low > said: ML> Might I ask what kind of SD tuner cards you have? I have the Haupagge 150s. I actually have two slightly different cards, one with FM input and one with component video. They both work pretty much out of the box without effort in modern linux kernels and are fairly cheap. -- Wes Hardaker My Pictures: http://capturedonearth.com/ My Thoughts: http://pontifications.hardakers.net/ ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Mythbox hardward compatibility
Never used either. Have done a little research and saw beyondtv as an option. I will look deeper into sagetv. Thanx. I use two hard drives for each OS. One for windblows, one for ubuntu which has a bootloader that can boot other hard drives. Its soo cool that this can be done. If for some reason I have to take the ubuntu hard drive out or it crashes the bios will choose the second hard drive which still contains windblows bootloader! I have done the single hard drive thing before but there are too many things to go wrong such as partitioning, compression, reallocation of files, defragging, yada yada yada. Since I don't know Linux all that well I experiment with it a lot to the point where I have to rewrite my hard drive. Makes it very convient having both OS separate. - Original Message - From: Matthew Low To: LUGOD Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [vox-tech] Mythbox hardward compatibility Wes, Thanks for the info on HDHomeRun. I happen to live in Orange County, but since I know Bill K from way back in the day, he suggested posting to LUGOD so here I am. Might I ask what kind of SD tuner cards you have? It's looking and more like I won't be able to find one card that does both digital and analog. That is unless anyone else throws out a suggestion. In regards to the video card, I checked the Nvidia website and they do have Linux drivers. So I think I'm good there. Unfortunately, this means I probably won't be able to get away with a mobo that has integrated graphics. Since my mythbox is not going to be for gaming I was hoping to avoid an extra card inside the computer and the associate power consumption and loss of air flow. Jimbo, Any particular reason you suggested BeyondTV over SageTV. I've test drove the Win 7 media center and it seems pretty good for a built in media center. How would you transition to Linux? I'm envisioning some type of dual boot system. Does Win 7 have the same boot loader as Linux? -- Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. Sign up now. -- ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Mythbox hardward compatibility
Wes, Thanks for the info on HDHomeRun. I happen to live in Orange County, but since I know Bill K from way back in the day, he suggested posting to LUGOD so here I am. Might I ask what kind of SD tuner cards you have? It's looking and more like I won't be able to find one card that does both digital and analog. That is unless anyone else throws out a suggestion. In regards to the video card, I checked the Nvidia website and they do have Linux drivers. So I think I'm good there. Unfortunately, this means I probably won't be able to get away with a mobo that has integrated graphics. Since my mythbox is not going to be for gaming I was hoping to avoid an extra card inside the computer and the associate power consumption and loss of air flow. Jimbo, Any particular reason you suggested BeyondTV over SageTV. I've test drove the Win 7 media center and it seems pretty good for a built in media center. How would you transition to Linux? I'm envisioning some type of dual boot system. Does Win 7 have the same boot loader as Linux? _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Mythbox hardward compatibility
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:08:47 +, Matthew Low > said: ML> SiliconDust HDHomeRun Network-based Dual Digital HDTV Tuner Ethernet ML> Interface This seems like a popular tuner on Newegg and I like the ML> idea of having the TV stream through ethernet. Seems like the same ML> problem as the Hauppauge with only supporting digital channels. ML> Anyone have any experience with this device? I just bought one of these recently and love it. But yes, it won't record the analog channels (nor can it record anything encrypted, but that's already a known problem you're familiar with; note that more and more cable companies eventually flip the "encrypt most channels" switch). However, at least in Davis (if that's where you're living) almost everything is transmitted on both a digital and an analog channel so you shouldn't actually loose much. Worst case, you could also throw a analog capture card in the machine too. The nice thing about Myth is that it's very expandable. My system has the HDHR network box with 2 inputs and the machine has 2 SD capture cards in it as well. I never miss a show due to conflicts ;-) ML> Video: Is there a Nvidia driver for the GeForce 210? Can I get ML> audio out through the HDMI? Go to the nvidia website and see if you can download the proprietary linux drivers for the card. That'll let you know quickly. NVidia, unlike most other vendors, is pretty good at supporting everything with linux drivers even if they are proprietary. I don't know about the sound; I admittedly have a HDMI after a converter from, um, drat... that other digital acronym is escaping me. Anyway, I route the sound separately and fortunately my TV has one HDMI input with a external sound input too. Oh, and myth isn't the easiest thing in the world to get set up. It does take time. Possibly lots of it if you want to fiddle more and more. On the up side, once getting it installed you'll likely never want to use anything else again. -- Wes Hardaker My Pictures: http://capturedonearth.com/ My Thoughts: http://pontifications.hardakers.net/ ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Mythbox hardward compatibility
Its as if you are reading my mind. I too am looking into building a pvr that has an ubuntu backbone. I too have very little experience with linux however I am looking into a cross compatible box that uses windows 7. Hardware that works in 7 is relatively easy as compared to Linux. Finding such to work on both is a challenge. I would first build it in 7 w/ beyondtv and once I established that I have it all working correctly then go Linux. Heck getting 1080p setting in ubuntu seems hard in itself. I was looking at the ati 5870 gpu that has hdmi output. I have read online that you can get this gpu to have sound output but not sure how hard that would be to config in Linux. I will probably go with a regular 5.1 sound card. I like your choice in mobos and gpus. Evga is tops in my books. You email intrigues me. Hopefully we can coorespond and feed off of each other. Is there anybody in the group that has any experience building a pvr (dvr)? Jimbo - Original Message - From: "Matthew Low" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:08 PM Subject: [vox-tech] Mythbox hardward compatibility Greetings, I'd like to enlist your help. Knowing nothing about Linux, but having the desire to not pay Microsoft, I am committed to putting together my own HTPC from scratch. Searching the forums, I'm finding that the message boards are way past my level of technical expertise. I'd like to go what some flavor of Mythbuntu to avoid having to buy Windows. The overarching goal is for me to build a PVR that can still surf the net. I don't have a lot of spare parts around so I'm going to have to buy them. That's ok though, because I want to build something that might be more than I need now, so that it will last 5-7 years without getting too outdated. Inputs will be the internet and basic cable tv. Output will be to a tv via HDMI. Requirements: Must serve as front end/back end Quiet Turns on and off by itself. http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ACPI_Wakeup Needs to be installer friendly (I have zero linux knowledge). Below are two TV tuners and a list of the three setups that I'm considering. I'm putting them out there for you to comment on, but feel free to throw out other suggestions. Of course I will need a case, HDD, memory, PSU, and other misc parts, but I don't believe those will make any difference in compatibility. TV Tuner: Here are two dual tuners that caught my eye: Hauppauge 2250 w/ remote I read that the driver for this only supports the digital side of the tuner. First off, is this true that only the digital channels will work? Does this mean that I won't be able to watch any of the analog stations from my cable provider? What other cards that are still in production would work for both analog and digital? Here's a link to my cable provider for reference. At the bottom is discusses the signal format. http://ww2.cox.com/residential/orangecounty/tv/channel-lineup.cox SiliconDust HDHomeRun Network-based Dual Digital HDTV Tuner Ethernet Interface This seems like a popular tuner on Newegg and I like the idea of having the TV stream through ethernet. Seems like the same problem as the Hauppauge with only supporting digital channels. Anyone have any experience with this device? Systems 1. Overkill CPU: i7 920 Mobo: EVGA X58 SLI LE Video: EVGA 512-P3-1213-LR GeForce 210 512MB 64-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Concerns Video: Is there a Nvidia driver for the GeForce 210? Can I get audio out through the HDMI? 2. More than enough CPU: i5 670 Mobo: ASUS P7H55-M PRO LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI Micro ATX Video: Built in Intel HD Graphics Concerns Mobo: Any limitations (besides cases) using a mATX Mobo/Video: Is there a driver for the Intel HD Graphics chipset? Can I get audio out through the HDMI? Will this output 1080p? 3. Pretty good CPU: AMD Phenom II X3 720 BE Mobo: ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Video: Built in ATI Radeon 4200 Concerns Video: Is there a driver for the Radeon 4200? Can I get audio out through the HDMI? _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech