Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu not booting after Kernel update
Hi, Some answers: Why LILO? Because the installation scripts failed to produce a bootable system when I selected Grub. So I selected LILO and it work. The update was from kernel 2.6.24-22 to 2.6.24-23. The original installation I believe had 2.6.24-21. One of our IT guys was able to boot the machine and manually start some of the services so the new kernel is OK and I believe that the problem is the MBR or something that follows LILO. Regards, Alfredo . From: vox-tech-boun...@lists.lugod.org [mailto:vox-tech-boun...@lists.lugod.org] On Behalf Of Darth Borehd Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:13 AM To: lugod's technical discussion forum Subject: Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu not booting after Kernel update Why LILO? I can't think of a single thing LILO can do that Grub can not do better. If you have an older kernel available in the menu, boot to that. Then check for updates again. Sometimes the headers don't download completely on older releases. If so, then install those and try to reboot with the new kernel. 2009/11/23 ALLO (Alfredo Lopez De Leon) mailto:a...@novozymes.com>> Hi I have an Ubuntu server 8.04 LTS with 2 TB (RAID 5) of storage space. This morning I allowed the system to download and install a bunch of updates, along them a Sun Java and a kernel update. After the update due to some concerns about a Java application I decided to re-boot the server and I got a Lilo error the infamous L 99 99 99 ... Some Google postings suggested to run lilo just to make sure that the info about the new kernel was part of the booting sequence. After booting with a rescue disk I ran /sbin/lilo and re-boot, the Lilo problem was gone but the system now hangs after the BIOS Data Checkup Successful I will a appreciate any suggestions. Thanks Alfredo Lopez ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org<mailto:vox-tech@lists.lugod.org> http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu not booting after Kernel update
Quoting Peter Jay Salzman (p...@dirac.org): > I think I understand what you're saying, but I believe the argument > for simplicity is more compelling from the point of view of the person > using the application, not the application itself. Over a decade-plus of observing, 100% of those seemed to amount to "I messed with my boot files or MBR, and then forgot to re-run sbin/lilo to make sure I had a bootable config before rebooting." Those holes in people's feet did hurt, though, I'm sure, even if the bullets were fired downwards. > Based on the amount of hair pulling, simplicity for me goes to Grub, > easily. I can't recall the last time I had to diagnose a Grub issue. I don't either, because I make sure my system's bootable after any fooling with the boot files and before rebooting. However, other people seem to have problems, which are then made considerably more difficult by GRUB's indisputably far greater complexity. E.g., read this thread, which I believe may still be unresolved: http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-October/005061.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-October/005062.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-November/005063.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-November/005092.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-November/005093.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-November/005096.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-November/005098.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-November/005102.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-November/005110.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-November/005117.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-November/005122.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-November/005125.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-November/005129.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-November/005132.html ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu not booting after Kernel update
On Tue 24 Nov 09, 11:01 AM, Rick Moen said: > Quoting Darth Borehd (darth.bor...@gmail.com): > > > Why LILO? I can't think of a single thing LILO can do that Grub can not do > > better. > > 1. Simplicity. > 2. Ability to boot any arbitrary filesystem without the need for the > bootloader to understand filesystem semantics.[1] > > [1] This isn't a problem with current common Linux filesystems, but > has been in the past, and in some cases such as ReiserFS has limited > GRUB to booting from some filesystems if mounted with the "notail" > option. Admittedly, GRUB also does support a "block list" reference > mode analogous to LILO's ability to find bootable objects by logical CHS > location, but this is poorly documented and probably poorly tested. I think I understand what you're saying, but I believe the argument for simplicity is more compelling from the point of view of the person using the application, not the application itself. Based on the amount of hair pulling, simplicity for me goes to Grub, easily. I can't recall the last time I had to diagnose a Grub issue. Pete ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu not booting after Kernel update
Quoting Darth Borehd (darth.bor...@gmail.com): > Why LILO? I can't think of a single thing LILO can do that Grub can not do > better. 1. Simplicity. 2. Ability to boot any arbitrary filesystem without the need for the bootloader to understand filesystem semantics.[1] [1] This isn't a problem with current common Linux filesystems, but has been in the past, and in some cases such as ReiserFS has limited GRUB to booting from some filesystems if mounted with the "notail" option. Admittedly, GRUB also does support a "block list" reference mode analogous to LILO's ability to find bootable objects by logical CHS location, but this is poorly documented and probably poorly tested. ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu not booting after Kernel update
Why LILO? I can't think of a single thing LILO can do that Grub can not do better. If you have an older kernel available in the menu, boot to that. Then check for updates again. Sometimes the headers don't download completely on older releases. If so, then install those and try to reboot with the new kernel. 2009/11/23 ALLO (Alfredo Lopez De Leon) > Hi I have an Ubuntu server 8.04 LTS with 2 TB (RAID 5) of storage space. > This morning I allowed the system to download and install a bunch of > updates, along them a Sun Java and a kernel update. > After the update due to some concerns about a Java application I decided to > re-boot the server and I got a Lilo error the infamous L 99 99 99 ... Some > Google postings suggested to run lilo just to make sure that the info about > the new kernel was part of the booting sequence. > > After booting with a rescue disk I ran /sbin/lilo and re-boot, the Lilo > problem was gone but the system now hangs after the BIOS Data Checkup > Successful > > I will a appreciate any suggestions. > > Thanks > Alfredo Lopez > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > vox-tech@lists.lugod.org > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech > ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
