[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-13 Thread Gil Knutson
On 08-Jan-01,* Shillito*, of Planet Eros, wrote these Wise Words: I have been working on an implimentation of Unicode for the Amiga. === snip God Bless dedicated folks like you!!! (I bow in your general direction...) : ))) Anyway, my implementation seems to me to be

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-09 Thread Shillito
Hello Shillito On 08-Jan-01, you wrote: 8--- snip --- The hardest aspect of implementing CSS is of course the treatment of fonts, which is a complete mess on all computer platforms, and everywhere else. CSS makes (in my opinion) the mistake of supporting in parallel quite a

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-08 Thread Shillito
CSS is designed (not deliberately) in such a way that it is very hard to implement. CSS is an total system - it would be completely unsatisfactory to simply implement a sub set of it - that just wouldn't work. Som bits can of course be left out, but most if it (and, really, the hard parts)

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-08 Thread Stephen Illingworth
Hello Shillito On 08-Jan-01, you wrote: 8--- snip --- The hardest aspect of implementing CSS is of course the treatment of fonts, which is a complete mess on all computer platforms, and everywhere else. CSS makes (in my opinion) the mistake of supporting in parallel quite a few different

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-06 Thread Don Cox
On 05-Jan-01, Michael Butler wrote: I'd be more than happy with working Javascript, CSS, and maybe Java if we are lucky. This would at least give navigational functionality. TBH I've yet to see a QT or RA file that was worth the download. The main use of RA is to listen to the track

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-06 Thread Neil Williams
Hihi On Friday January 05 2001, Uffe Holst said to Ingo Heinicke: UH I remember some time ago some talk about some available RealAudio It's ReadAudio 2 -- very out of date, very little used now, if at all. UH software, though I got the impression that very few was able to make it

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Don Cox
On 04-Jan-01, Ingo Heinicke wrote: The same do I. Style Sheets (at least CSS1) are legitimate ourdays and used a lot. I like the idea to keep the code small by its use. One also can get effects like one I use on my own homepage (see footer). I have the background picture fixed (like a

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Gaven Eogan
-- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar -- -- Type: application/octet-stream -- File: CSS-test-site.zip Doh! I've uploaded it to my site on geocities http://www.geocities.com/gaven_eogan/downloads/css-site.zip but geocities seems to be very buggy lately, so sometimes it says the

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Gaven Eogan
Stylesheets are a way off, but if you're so annoyed that it doesn't render in V, why not specify the colours using FONT tags etc. - there Because I didn't write the HTML code of other peoples sites ! ?! Did you register Picasso96? :) Not yet, I'm waiting for a 'legal' way to register ie.

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Gaven Eogan
Yes. -- David Gerber Nice one, Dave ;-) _ Voyager Mailing List - http://v3.vapor.com/ Voyager FAQ: http://faq.vapor.com/voyager/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Gaven Eogan
I'd say you should get a clue in designing websites before you complain about lacklustre browser support (joke! ;) WE should get a clue? Read this from www.w3.org the people who defined the standards... Guidelines for authoring Here are some rough guidelines for HTML authors. If you use these,

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Stephen Illingworth
Hello Uffe On 04-Jan-01, you wrote: The state of the Amiga browsers will probably be the reason for me abandoning the Amiga, whenever that will happen. I hope it will be a long time yet. But more and more often I encounter sites where I find Voyager and the other Amiga browsers lacking.

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Ingo Heinicke
Yes. David Gerber Nice one, Dave ;-) He just said he *knew* if someone works on CSS. He didn't claim he actually *does* work on it :-) Nevertheless he told me it's on the todo list. Ingo -- --- Hasta la vista, baby

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Ingo Heinicke
If you're holding out for Java, RealAudio and modern QT playback, I suspect you're in for a long wait. At least QT should be easy. There is a good QT-Player (SoftCinema) avilable. He just had to implement it as a plugin. Think I gonna ask him... Ingo --

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Matt Sealey
Hello Gaven On 05-Jan-01, you wrote: Stylesheets are a way off, but if you're so annoyed that it doesn't render in V, why not specify the colours using FONT tags etc. - there Because I didn't write the HTML code of other peoples sites ! ?! I meant on the sites you write ;) If you get

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Matt Sealey
Hello Gaven On 05-Jan-01, you wrote: I'd say you should get a clue in designing websites before you complain about lacklustre browser support (joke! ;) WE should get a clue? Read this from www.w3.org the people who defined the standards... JOKE! For crying out LOUD! I'd also say

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Uffe Holst
In a message of 05-Jan-01 Ingo Heinicke wrote: If you're holding out for Java, RealAudio and modern QT playback, I suspect you're in for a long wait. At least QT should be easy. There is a good QT-Player (SoftCinema) avilable. He just had to implement it as a plugin. Think I gonna ask

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Stephen Illingworth
Hello Ingo On 05-Jan-01, you wrote: If you're holding out for Java, RealAudio and modern QT playback, I suspect you're in for a long wait. At least QT should be easy. There is a good QT-Player (SoftCinema) avilable. He just had to implement it as a plugin. Think I gonna ask him...

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Matt Sealey
Hello Stephen On 05-Jan-01, you wrote: Hello Ingo On 05-Jan-01, you wrote: If you're holding out for Java, RealAudio and modern QT playback, I suspect you're in for a long wait. At least QT should be easy. There is a good QT-Player (SoftCinema) avilable. He just had to

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-05 Thread Michael Butler
Apart from Javascript and CSS, the other things you mention are well beyond the remit of the Voyager crew, do you not think? If you're holding out for Java, RealAudio and modern QT playback, I suspect you're in for a long wait. I'd be more than happy with working Javascript, CSS,

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-04 Thread Ron Denney
Hello Gaven, On 04-Jan-01, you wrote: Does anyone know (David Gerber maybe) if the Vapor team are working on getting a (fairly minimal even) CSS style sheet implementation in new versions of Voyager. It (apart from Javascript) is the main missing requirement left to make V3's rendering

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-04 Thread Matt Sealey
Hello Gaven On 04-Jan-01, you wrote: should look. Open the page in V3. Can you see the differences? (Fonts / table / background colour / rollovers). This is because its all done using the stylesheet. Stylesheets are a way off, but if you're so annoyed that it doesn't render in V, why not

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-04 Thread Ingo Heinicke
Stylesheets are a way off, but if you're so annoyed that it doesn't render in V, why not specify the colours using FONT tags etc. - there is a perfectly legitimate use for it in the sense that a LOT of people are still running Netscape 3 (well, Leicester University was until last week :) I

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-04 Thread Ingo Heinicke
Hi, Does anyone know (David Gerber maybe) if the Vapor team are working on getting a (fairly minimal even) CSS style sheet implementation in new versions of Voyager. I've asked David Gerber privately some time ago and he told me CSS will be addressed in the near future. I write commercial

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-04 Thread Uffe Holst
In a message of 04-Jan-01 Ingo Heinicke wrote: at least CSS1 can be expected from a browser today. As far as I know it is also 4 years since CSS1 was released. I don't doubt that this is a very difficult market, because we are so few, and I am also sure Olli Co. is doing a lot of work,

[voyager] Re: CSS implementation test

2001-01-04 Thread David Gerber
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:50:58 - , Gaven Eogan wrote: Does anyone know (David Gerber maybe) if the Vapor team are working on getting a (fairly minimal even) CSS style sheet implementation in new versions of Voyager. Yes. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger