[Vserver] Protecting guests' interfaces

2006-07-04 Thread Teemu Matilainen
Hi, I have seen many questions, discussions and instructions about (loopback) interfaces on a guest. I have tried with different setups with e.g. loopback and dummy interfaces, but still have not succeeded to prevent guests accessing some interfaces of other guests. Is there any way to

Re: [Vserver] can't terminate OpenVPN tunnel within a vserver?

2006-07-04 Thread Daniel W. Crompton
On 7/3/06, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 12:12:34PM +0200, Baltasar Cevc wrote: I can't have an OpenVPN tunnel terminate in a vserver, can I? You can, I just did it yesterday. You need to set the following in the file bcapabilities: CAP_NET_ADMIN CAP_NET_RAW

Re: [Vserver] OpenVCP Beta released

2006-07-04 Thread Youri LACAN-BARTLEY
Hi Gerrit, I'll be giving a shot at OpenVCP some time next week. From what I've seen so far, it seems quite promising. Keep up the good work, Sincerely, Youri Gerrit Wyen wrote: hi, we quite recently released the first beta of OpenVCP licensed under the GPL. OpenVCP provides a web-based

[Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Clément Calmels
Hi, 1.1 It would be nice to run vmstat (say, vmstat 10) for the duration of the tests, and put the vmstat output logs to the site. Our benchmark framework allows us to use oprofile during test... couldn't it be better than vmstat? Basically, the detailed description of a process would be

Re: [Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Clément Calmels
Hi, from the tests: For benchs inside real 'guest' nodes (OpenVZ/VServer) you should take into account that the FS tested is not the 'host' node one's. at least for Linux-VServer it should not be hard to avoid the chroot/filesystem namespace part and have it run on the host fs. a

[Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Clément Calmels
Hi, Sorry, just forgot one part of your email... 1.2 Can you tell how you run the tests. I am particularly interested in - how many iterations do you do? - what result do you choose from those iterations? - how reproducible are the results? - are you rebooting the box between the

Re: [Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Cedric Le Goater
Clément Calmels wrote: Hi, Sorry, just forgot one part of your email... 1.2 Can you tell how you run the tests. I am particularly interested in - how many iterations do you do? - what result do you choose from those iterations? - how reproducible are the results? - are you rebooting the

[Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Clément Calmels
Hi, Sorry, I just forgot one part of your email... (and sorry for the mail spamming, I probably got too big fingers or too tiny keyboard) 1.2 Can you tell how you run the tests. I am particularly interested in - how many iterations do you do? - what result do you choose from those iterations?

Re: [Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Kir Kolyshkin
Clément, Thanks for addressing my concerns! See comments below. Clément Calmels wrote: Hi, 1.1 It would be nice to run vmstat (say, vmstat 10) for the duration of the tests, and put the vmstat output logs to the site. Our benchmark framework allows us to use oprofile during test...

Re: [Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Clément Calmels
Hi, I'm wondering why a default 'guest' creation implies some resources restrictions? Couldn't the resources be unlimited? I understand the need for resource management, but the default values look a little bit tiny... The reason is security. A guest is untrusted by default, though

Re: [Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Kirill Korotaev
from the tests: For benchs inside real 'guest' nodes (OpenVZ/VServer) you should take into account that the FS tested is not the 'host' node one's. at least for Linux-VServer it should not be hard to avoid the chroot/filesystem namespace part and have it run on the host fs. a bind mount into

Re: [Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Kir Kolyshkin
Clément Calmels wrote: Hi, I'm wondering why a default 'guest' creation implies some resources restrictions? Couldn't the resources be unlimited? I understand the need for resource management, but the default values look a little bit tiny... The reason is security. A guest is

Re: [Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Cedric Le Goater
Clément Calmels wrote: Hi, Sorry, I just forgot one part of your email... (and sorry for the mail spamming, I probably got too big fingers or too tiny keyboard) 1.2 Can you tell how you run the tests. I am particularly interested in - how many iterations do you do? - what result do you

Re: [Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Kirill Korotaev
Cedric, these informations are not explicit yet but please check the raw data, for example : http://lxc.sourceforge.net/bench/r3/dbenchraw you will see that each test is run nearly 100 times. the 5% min and max values are stripped before doing an average. min, max and std dev are

Re: [Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Cedric Le Goater
Kirill Korotaev wrote: For OpenVZ it is also possible to test different subsytems separately (virtualization/isolation, resource management, disk quota, CPU scheduler). I would notice also, that in OpenVZ all these features are ON by default. hmm, we didn't realize that. Good, it will make

Re: [Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Cedric Le Goater
Kirill Korotaev wrote: Cedric, these informations are not explicit yet but please check the raw data, for example : http://lxc.sourceforge.net/bench/r3/dbenchraw you will see that each test is run nearly 100 times. the 5% min and max values are stripped before doing an average. min,

Re: [Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Cedric Le Goater
Kir Kolyshkin wrote: In case you are testing performance (but not, say, isolation), you can definitely set all the UBCs to unlimited values (i.e. both barrier and limit for each parameter should be set to MAX_LONG). The only issues is with vmguarpages parameter, because this is a guarantee

Re: [Vserver] Re: [Devel] Container Test Campaign

2006-07-04 Thread Kir Kolyshkin
See my comments below. In general - please don't get the impression I try to be fastidious. I'm just trying to help you create a system in which results can be reproducible and trusted. There are a lot of factors that influence the performance; some of those are far from being obvious.

[Vserver] dist-upgrade problem with breezy

2006-07-04 Thread Philippe Clérié
I'm trying to dist-upgrade a breezy guest and getting an error when upgrading the initscripts package. The error occurs while running the postinst script, when it tries this: mount -n --bind / /.root The output from that is: mount: permission denied. I suspect I need to enable some capability

Re: [Vserver] Protecting guests' interfaces

2006-07-04 Thread Baltasar Cevc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Teemu, Is there any way to restrict a guest from accessing some interfaces or services of other guests? The guest can only actively use the interfaces assigned to it (see the great flower page, /etc/vservers/vserver-name/interfaces about

Re: [Vserver] can't terminate OpenVPN tunnel within a vserver?

2006-07-04 Thread Baltasar Cevc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 04.07.2006, at 10:29, Daniel W. Crompton wrote: On 7/3/06, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 12:12:34PM +0200, Baltasar Cevc wrote: I can't have an OpenVPN tunnel terminate in a vserver, can I? You can, I just

[Vserver] Re: vservers start very slow after a reboot

2006-07-04 Thread micah
In gmane.linux.vserver, you wrote: [trimming extra stuff to save bandwidth] thanks for the info. I think your suggestions will actually solve the problem i'm having. Thing is that i'm not sure on how to do it correctly on Debian. I have a util-vserver script in /etc/init.d which is linked to

Re: [Vserver] can't terminate OpenVPN tunnel within a vserver?

2006-07-04 Thread Daniel W. Crompton
On 7/4/06, Baltasar Cevc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04.07.2006, at 10:29, Daniel W. Crompton wrote: You can, I just did it yesterday. You need to set the following in the file bcapabilities: CAP_NET_ADMIN CAP_NET_RAW I haven't tested it myself as I run OpenVPN in the host system only, but

[Vserver] Error at vserver startup

2006-07-04 Thread Sergio Belkin
Hi list! When I issue the command: vserver hibernia1 restart the output is as follows: Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console /usr/lib/util-vserver/vserver.stop: line 85: 20670 Terminado (killed) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ${USE_VNAMESPACE: +$_VNAMESPACE --enter $S_CONTEXT -- }