[Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-06 Thread Eugen Leitl
Before I try OpenVZ I would like to hear comments of people who've ran both VServer and OpenVZ, preferrably on the same hardware, on how both compare. Factors of interest are stability, Debian support, hardware utilization, documentation and community support, security. My planned usage is

Re: [Vserver] testme.sh results and minor problem 2.6.14.2 / vs2.1.0-rc8 on x86_64 arch

2005-12-06 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 08:58:20AM +0100, Grzegorz Nosek wrote: 2005/12/6, Herbert Poetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: btw, rc9 is out, with some fixes but also the 'dangerous' dynamic xid option (which probably will change the default with the final release) Hello, I'd love to see future

[Vserver] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Users] VServer vs OpenVZ]

2005-12-06 Thread Eugen Leitl
Any counter-comments, from a VServer strengths point of view? - Forwarded message from Kir Kolyshkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Kir Kolyshkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:17:18 +0300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Users] VServer vs OpenVZ User-Agent: Mozilla

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2005-12-06 Thread Rik Bobbaers
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 15:45, Eugen Leitl wrote: Any counter-comments, from a VServer strengths point of view? i'll try to get some points together here... i'm not an experienced user of vserver, but i have some remarks here... - Forwarded message from Kir Kolyshkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Vserver] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Users] VServer vs OpenVZ]

2005-12-06 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 03:45:42PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: Any counter-comments, from a VServer strengths point of view? - Forwarded message from Kir Kolyshkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Kir Kolyshkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:17:18 +0300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-06 Thread Ehab Heikal
As far as I know the only nice thing in openvz and freevps that is to my knowledge missing in linux-vserver is virtual network devices. Other than that, vserver is much better due to the huge community support that you will most probably not get from swsoft since they are more interested in

Re: [Vserver] /dev/null: Permission denied

2005-12-06 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 09:42:54PM +0200, Roché Compaan wrote: Hi there I created a virtual server by first creating a skeleton and then copying the files from an existing vserver to the new one. Whenever I start the vserver, init scripts accessing /dev/null (or any subsequent commands)

Re: [Vserver] /dev/null: Permission denied

2005-12-06 Thread Roché Compaan
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 20:53 +0100, Herbert Poetzl wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 09:42:54PM +0200, Roché Compaan wrote: Hi there I created a virtual server by first creating a skeleton and then copying the files from an existing vserver to the new one. Whenever I start the vserver,

Re: [Vserver] /dev/null: Permission denied

2005-12-06 Thread Roché Compaan
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 22:03 +0200, Roché Compaan wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 20:53 +0100, Herbert Poetzl wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 09:42:54PM +0200, Roché Compaan wrote: Hi there I created a virtual server by first creating a skeleton and then copying the files from an

Re: [Vserver] /dev/null: Permission denied

2005-12-06 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 10:14:57PM +0200, Roché Compaan wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 22:03 +0200, Roché Compaan wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 20:53 +0100, Herbert Poetzl wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 09:42:54PM +0200, Roché Compaan wrote: Hi there I created a virtual server by

Re: [Vserver] /dev/null: Permission denied

2005-12-06 Thread Cedric Veilleux
Hi, Whenever I start the vserver, init scripts accessing /dev/null (or any subsequent commands) returns Permission denied. Re-creating /dev/null outside the vserver does not help. ls -l shows this is a proper device file: Ensure the partition were your vserver is located is not mounted with

Re: [Vserver] /dev/null: Permission denied

2005-12-06 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 03:18:51PM -0500, Cedric Veilleux wrote: Hi, Whenever I start the vserver, init scripts accessing /dev/null (or any subsequent commands) returns Permission denied. Re-creating /dev/null outside the vserver does not help. ls -l shows this is a proper device file:

Re: [Vserver] /dev/null: Permission denied

2005-12-06 Thread Roché Compaan
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 15:18 -0500, Cedric Veilleux wrote: Hi, Whenever I start the vserver, init scripts accessing /dev/null (or any subsequent commands) returns Permission denied. Re-creating /dev/null outside the vserver does not help. ls -l shows this is a proper device file:

[Vserver] bind to 0.0.0.0 inside vserver

2005-12-06 Thread Alexander Kabanov
hi all, what is /interfaces/interface/scope file for? /etc/vservers/vserver.conf file, doesn't seem to work for me at all, when I specify vserver configuration in different files inside vserver conf dir all works. Is something wrong with my configuration or /etc/vservers/vserver.conf support

Re: [Vserver] bind to 0.0.0.0 inside vserver

2005-12-06 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 12:54:01PM -0800, Alexander Kabanov wrote: hi all, what is /interfaces/interface/scope file for? /etc/vservers/vserver.conf file, doesn't seem to work for me at all, when I specify vserver configuration in different files inside vserver conf dir all works. Is

Re: [Vserver] bind to 0.0.0.0 inside vserver

2005-12-06 Thread Andreas John
Alexander Kabanov wrote: hi all, what is /interfaces/interface/scope file for? Here I would *guess* the following: # ip addr 1: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:ee:ee:bd:ee:ee brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 1.2.3.4/29 brd 80.69.46.199

RE: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-06 Thread Alex Lyashkov
(will use Z for OpenVZ and S for Linux-VServer) Factors of interest are - stability, Z: the announcement reads first stable OVZ version S: we are at version 2.0.1 ( two years stable releases) And all this time VServer need a hack for allow bind socket to INADDR_ANY at VPS ;-) Z

Re: [Vserver] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Users] VServer vs OpenVZ]

2005-12-06 Thread Alex Lyashkov
ngnet was delayed several times because it is not really necessary to have and of course network virtualization adds overhead and 'might' affect stability (as the kernel networking is changing very heavily with every release) I don`t right. Network virtualization reduse overhead of using

Re: [Vserver] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Users] VServer vs OpenVZ]

2005-12-06 Thread Kir Kolyshkin
Rik Bobbaers wrote: stable: yes, secure... well... as far as possible, BUT! multipath using devicemapper in their kernel? almost impossible, unless the backported that entirely from 2.6.13 (of some 2.6.12 rcX) a lot of other enhancements in 2.6.8+ kernels... it's for a reason that kernels

Re: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-06 Thread Kir Kolyshkin
Let me comment on that as well (ccing our users@ mailing list). Sure I'm biased as well :) Herbert Poetzl wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 01:20:13PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: Factors of interest are - stability, Z: the announcement reads first stable OVZ version Although this is

[Vserver] Problem with shutdown

2005-12-06 Thread Roché Compaan
Squid takes longer than most processes to stop, and this seems be a problem when stopping a vserver: Stopping periodic command scheduler: cron. Stopping ClamAV daemon: clamd Stopping ClamAV virus database updater: freshclam Stopping mail transport agent: Postfix. Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell