Re: [Vserver] possible for host and guest to share rpm database?
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Guenther Fuchs wrote: Hi there, on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 at 8:35:37 PM there was posted: DZ> Unfortunately I would like to avoid that:/ . I just want DZ> them to be able to query the rpm database. I would like to stick DZ> with package management from the host since it is a life saver. In that case: Wouldn't then a simple cron-script on the host producing an actual list into a plain textfile inside the guest solve your problem? Maybe a simple hourly base could do that? That would not help it. The requirement is that rpm commands should work from within the guest OS. In this particular case the list of the rpms installed in the vserver must be returned by executing the appropriate rpm commands. Cheers, -- Dimitris Zilaskos Department of Physics @ Aristotle University of Thessaloniki , Greece PGP key : http://tassadar.physics.auth.gr/~dzila/pgp_public_key.asc http://egnatia.ee.auth.gr/~dzila/pgp_public_key.asc MD5sum : de2bd8f73d545f0e4caf3096894ad83f pgp_public_key.asc ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] possible for host and guest to share rpm database?
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 09:35:37PM +0200, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote: > > > > On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > >On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:45:12AM +0200, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote: > >> > >>Hello , > >> > >>I am using linux vserver with gentoo as host os and scientific linux > >>guest os(RHEL compatible). I am managing the rpm packages from the > >>host os with vapt-get and vyum. However there is a requirement on > >>certain vservers that their users have to be able to execute rpm -qa > >>and get a list of the installed rpms .Naturally right now the list is > >>empty. > > > >because the rpm database is kept external > > > >>I would like to avoid having to maintain both an internal and > >>external rpm database. > > > >change to an internal rpm database ... > > > >from the 'vserver --help': > > > > pkgmgmt externalize|internalize [-y] > > ... externalize or internalize the package-management for the > > given vserver. 'Externalize' means that package metadata > > and management tools (apt-get,rpm) are living in the host, > > while 'internalize' means that data and programs from the > > vserver will be used. > > > >>Is it possible somehow for the vrpm from the host os and rpm from > >>within the vserver to return the same list? > > > >.. and maintain the guest (on the host) with > >the internal database ... > > > Unfortunately I would like to avoid that :/ . I just want them to be > able to query the rpm database. I would like to stick with package > management from the host since it is a life saver. hmm, well, I guess the only way to do that in a save manner is to provide the information via some interface, e.g. maybe use a web page for the queries or, if you think that a read-only access is secure, mount the database into the guest (but read-only) HTH, Herbert > Cheers , > > -- > > > Dimitris Zilaskos > > Department of Physics @ Aristotle University of Thessaloniki , Greece > PGP key : http://tassadar.physics.auth.gr/~dzila/pgp_public_key.asc > http://egnatia.ee.auth.gr/~dzila/pgp_public_key.asc > MD5sum : de2bd8f73d545f0e4caf3096894ad83f pgp_public_key.asc > ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] possible for host and guest to share rpm database?
Hi there, on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 at 8:35:37 PM there was posted: DZ> Unfortunately I would like to avoid that:/ . I just want DZ> them to be able to query the rpm database. I would like to stick DZ> with package management from the host since it is a life saver. In that case: Wouldn't then a simple cron-script on the host producing an actual list into a plain textfile inside the guest solve your problem? Maybe a simple hourly base could do that? -- regards 'n greez, Guenther Fuchs (aka "muh" and "powerfox") ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] possible for host and guest to share rpm database?
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Herbert Poetzl wrote: On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:45:12AM +0200, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote: Hello , I am using linux vserver with gentoo as host os and scientific linux guest os(RHEL compatible). I am managing the rpm packages from the host os with vapt-get and vyum. However there is a requirement on certain vservers that their users have to be able to execute rpm -qa and get a list of the installed rpms .Naturally right now the list is empty. because the rpm database is kept external I would like to avoid having to maintain both an internal and external rpm database. change to an internal rpm database ... from the 'vserver --help': pkgmgmt externalize|internalize [-y] ... externalize or internalize the package-management for the given vserver. 'Externalize' means that package metadata and management tools (apt-get,rpm) are living in the host, while 'internalize' means that data and programs from the vserver will be used. Is it possible somehow for the vrpm from the host os and rpm from within the vserver to return the same list? .. and maintain the guest (on the host) with the internal database ... Unfortunately I would like to avoid that:/ . I just want them to be able to query the rpm database. I would like to stick with package management from the host since it is a life saver. Cheers , -- Dimitris Zilaskos Department of Physics @ Aristotle University of Thessaloniki , Greece PGP key : http://tassadar.physics.auth.gr/~dzila/pgp_public_key.asc http://egnatia.ee.auth.gr/~dzila/pgp_public_key.asc MD5sum : de2bd8f73d545f0e4caf3096894ad83f pgp_public_key.asc ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] possible for host and guest to share rpm database?
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:45:12AM +0200, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote: > > Hello , > > I am using linux vserver with gentoo as host os and scientific linux > guest os(RHEL compatible). I am managing the rpm packages from the > host os with vapt-get and vyum. However there is a requirement on > certain vservers that their users have to be able to execute rpm -qa > and get a list of the installed rpms .Naturally right now the list is > empty. because the rpm database is kept external > I would like to avoid having to maintain both an internal and > external rpm database. change to an internal rpm database ... from the 'vserver --help': pkgmgmt externalize|internalize [-y] ... externalize or internalize the package-management for the given vserver. 'Externalize' means that package metadata and management tools (apt-get,rpm) are living in the host, while 'internalize' means that data and programs from the vserver will be used. > Is it possible somehow for the vrpm from the host os and rpm from > within the vserver to return the same list? .. and maintain the guest (on the host) with the internal database ... HTH, Herbert > TIA, > > -- > > > Dimitris Zilaskos > > Department of Physics @ Aristotle University of Thessaloniki , Greece > PGP key : http://tassadar.physics.auth.gr/~dzila/pgp_public_key.asc > http://egnatia.ee.auth.gr/~dzila/pgp_public_key.asc > MD5sum : de2bd8f73d545f0e4caf3096894ad83f pgp_public_key.asc > > ___ > Vserver mailing list > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] possible for host and guest to share rpm database?
Hello , I am using linux vserver with gentoo as host os and scientific linux guest os(RHEL compatible). I am managing the rpm packages from the host os with vapt-get and vyum. However there is a requirement on certain vservers that their users have to be able to execute rpm -qa and get a list of the installed rpms . Naturally right now the list is empty. I would like to avoid having to maintain both an internal and external rpm database. Is it possible somehow for the vrpm from the host os and rpm from within the vserver to return the same list? TIA, -- Dimitris Zilaskos Department of Physics @ Aristotle University of Thessaloniki , Greece PGP key : http://tassadar.physics.auth.gr/~dzila/pgp_public_key.asc http://egnatia.ee.auth.gr/~dzila/pgp_public_key.asc MD5sum : de2bd8f73d545f0e4caf3096894ad83f pgp_public_key.asc ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver