Re: [Vserver] possibly dumb question

2007-05-14 Thread Chuck
On Sunday 13 May 2007 23:26, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
 On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 10:51:49AM -0400, Chuck wrote:
  i am installing a workstation which i have no plans to use as a
  vserver host however there may be that possibility in the mid to far
  future...
 
 if you add the Linux-VServer patches, you will find
 an application for the features sooner than you think
 (e.g. limit a service to certain ips, use the CoW
 link breaking to save diskspace ...)
 

heh never thought of using the features elsewhere :) thanks!

btw, a few hours after i sent the original message, i was forced to retire the 
remote kde desktop server i have set up for our other remote admins (psu 
failed 'hot' and several motherboard chips literally exploded) , so now i do 
have a need for a guest :)

  are the kernels produced with the vserver patches 'improved' over std
  kernels and generally work better? or is it by its nature causing
  slight overhead compared to without?
 
 if there is noticeable overhead, it is considered a
 bug and should be reported :)
 
  i guess it boils down to use vserver patches on a normal workstation
  kernel or not? i have this undefined suspicion it is better with but
  would like a more factual answer :)
 
 well, it should not hurt, of course, if you don't
 need it, and/or already patched your kernel with
 several other patches, I would not compile it in
 just for the fun of doing it ...
 
got lazy and installed the gentoo vserver-sources rather than work on a 
vanilla kernel.

 HTH,
 Herbert
 
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and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath
or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose 
for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. 
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Re: [Vserver] possibly dumb question

2007-05-13 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 10:51:49AM -0400, Chuck wrote:
 i am installing a workstation which i have no plans to use as a
 vserver host however there may be that possibility in the mid to far
 future...

if you add the Linux-VServer patches, you will find
an application for the features sooner than you think
(e.g. limit a service to certain ips, use the CoW
link breaking to save diskspace ...)

 are the kernels produced with the vserver patches 'improved' over std
 kernels and generally work better? or is it by its nature causing
 slight overhead compared to without?

if there is noticeable overhead, it is considered a
bug and should be reported :)

 i guess it boils down to use vserver patches on a normal workstation
 kernel or not? i have this undefined suspicion it is better with but
 would like a more factual answer :)

well, it should not hurt, of course, if you don't
need it, and/or already patched your kernel with
several other patches, I would not compile it in
just for the fun of doing it ...

HTH,
Herbert

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[Vserver] possibly dumb question

2007-05-12 Thread Chuck
i am installing a workstation which i have no plans to use as a vserver host 
however there may be that possibility in the mid to far future...


are the kernels produced with the vserver patches 'improved' over std kernels 
and generally work better? or is it by its nature causing slight overhead 
compared to without?

i guess it boils down to use vserver patches on a normal workstation kernel or 
not? i have this undefined suspicion it is better with but would like a more 
factual answer :)

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Chuck



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