Re: [Vserver] simple questions about centos kernel and fc 4 to 5 upgrade guest
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 12:57:07AM +0200, jean-marc pouchoulon wrote: helo , I've read in the mailing list archive that centos kernel cannot be patched with vserver patch. Is it always true with centos 4.3 ? I'd say it can be patched, but it probably requires some adjustments to the patches or the kernel, why not use a vanilla (mainline from kernel.org) kernel instead? How to upgrade FC4 guest to FC5 ? yum ? new vserver build in FC5 environment and reinstall ? I'd say both is possible, but host and guest distro do not really depend on eachother If you have experiment it , I am interested to know if there are troubles. best, Herbert thanks jean-marc ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] simple questions about centos kernel and fc 4 to 5 upgrade guest
Hi there, (note: thanks to Herbert 4 reminding this post) on Friday, June 2, 2006 at 12:57:07 AM there was posted: jmp I've read in the mailing list archive that centos kernel cannot jmp be patched with vserver patch. Is it always true with centos 4.3 jmp ? Distribution dependand (already heavily patched) kernels kann not be patched out of the box. Further (i.e vserver) patches have to be adjusted to fit the already patched (and therefore moved and changed) lines of a distribution supplied kernel. Usually this is not too easy to do, but a vanilla (i.e. kernel.org sourced plain kernel) should do it's work as well (if not better). jmp How to upgrade FC4 guest to FC5 ? yum ? new vserver build in FC5 jmp environment and reinstall ? Both ways have pro's and contra's. I've tried both - and I personally prefer new build and reinstall of relevant services for several rea- sons: .) Time: Upgrade usually looks like the faster way. In my experiance (with a clear structured system) it usually still takes the same amount of time to upgrade as it takes for reinstallation - install of packages is one thing, changing changed configs the other, solving strange issues the third .) Uptime: Whilst preparing the new system the other still can run and mostly silent migrated when the new one is up and running .) Transparency: A fresh installed system never has overhead of a pre- vious install, neither replaced configs, nor unused binaries .) Troubleshooting: If a fresh installed sys does not run, it can't be due to old or misplaced configs ;-) jmp If you have experiment it , I am interested to know if there are jmp troubles. The major source of troubles always resides on the 17 cms between ones left and right ear. (tm) -- regards 'n greez, Guenther Fuchs (aka muh and powerfox) ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] simple questions about centos kernel and fc 4 to 5 upgrade guest
Thanks (herbert and Guenther) for yours answers why not use a vanilla (mainline from kernel.org) kernel instead? I am going to present tomorrow vserver to an audience that want to use Red Hat AS not Fedora/debian for the major part of them. It's a fact, not a judgement, they want something certified , with a life 2 years ( the big problem with fedora ) and I can understand that. Daniel's repository and FC howto makes upgrading, managing vserver and his kernel very easy ( thanks again to daniel) and I search something as easy as that for AS 4 environment.( or a clone like centos wich can be a solution). We can build a vanilla kernel but it is less simple vserver must , to persuade in my professionnal environment, be easy to install , upgrade , reassuring people , giving time to time they will understand how vserver is intresting. fedora seems for me to be the more industrialize solution for the moment, and centos a gateway between 2 worlds but not mature enough in a vserver environment. I will do to my best with that tomorrow. jean-marc ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] simple questions about centos kernel and fc 4 to 5 upgrade guest
helo , I've read in the mailing list archive that centos kernel cannot be patched with vserver patch. Is it always true with centos 4.3 ? How to upgrade FC4 guest to FC5 ? yum ? new vserver build in FC5 environment and reinstall ? If you have experiment it , I am interested to know if there are troubles. thanks jean-marc ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
