Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-16 Thread Andres Riancho
Achim, On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Achim Hoffmann wrote: > > > > Viele Gruesse > Achim > > On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Andres Riancho wrote: > > !! > So, identifying length limits, hidden values and constants (i.e. select > options) > !! > is a good idea and can be feed to a fuzzer plugin to make

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-16 Thread Andres Riancho
Taras, On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Taras wrote: > Andres, > >> My idea is that the parser should return a python form object that >> looks like this: > ... >> >> Which at the end creates the same mutants... but is a little less "nice" ;) >> >> Do you understand my point? > > So do you want

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-16 Thread Taras
Andres, > > What about complex JavaScript client side checks? > > Such maxlength check can be made on JavaScript. > > And I think in most cases such checks will be on JavaScript because > > simply it more powerful then HTML attributes like maxlength. > > Adding support for maxlength field in HTML

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-16 Thread Taras
Andres, > My idea is that the parser should return a python form object that > looks like this: ... > > Which at the end creates the same mutants... but is a little less "nice" ;) > > Do you understand my point? So do you want to move form.getVariants() behaviour/action to createMutants(), don

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-16 Thread Achim Hoffmann
Viele Gruesse Achim On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Andres Riancho wrote: !! > So, identifying length limits, hidden values and constants (i.e. select options) !! > is a good idea and can be feed to a fuzzer plugin to make more sophisticated !! > tests. ... !! > Does this make sense? !! !! Yes, a lot

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-15 Thread Andres Riancho
Taras, On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Taras wrote: > Andres, > >> Yes, a lot of sense to me in the case of the fuzzing, but not that >> much sense on the side of "finding a vulnerability" trying to send a >> request with maxlength-1  , maxlength, maxlength+1. Why not sending >> directly maxlen

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-15 Thread Taras
Andres, > Yes, a lot of sense to me in the case of the fuzzing, but not that > much sense on the side of "finding a vulnerability" trying to send a > request with maxlength-1 , maxlength, maxlength+1. Why not sending > directly maxlength+whatever and see what happens? What about complex JavaScr

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-15 Thread Andres Riancho
Achim, On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Achim Hoffmann wrote: > Taras wrote on 11.11.2009 13:06: > >> Example with maxlenght is not good. >> Such validation usually is made on JavaScript. >> What should do in such situation? >> My point of view is we do not need to pay so much attention to client

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-15 Thread Andres Riancho
Taras, On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Taras wrote: > Hi, all! > > Please read in line. >> > >> >> > - Is there a plugin that analyzes HTML code (like input length >> > fields) and then generates injection strings out of it? >> >    Example: There is a > > maxlength="30">>

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-11 Thread Achim Hoffmann
Taras wrote on 11.11.2009 13:06: > Example with maxlenght is not good. > Such validation usually is made on JavaScript. > What should do in such situation? > My point of view is we do not need to pay so much attention to client side > *security* validation because it is not so trivial but at same

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-11 Thread Raul Siles
Taras, The idea is to focus your tests on the information gathered through the client-side material. For example, if you obtain an input field, without any other information, you can try multiple input lenghts on it (the number of tries is arbitrary and could be endless). However, if you collect cl

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-11 Thread Taras
Raul, > Hi Taras, > I'm not sure if Floyd purpose was this, but it is useful to play > around the client side contraints, as they can provide a very good > insight of what the developers implemented on the server side too. Could you please describe it more because "to play around the client side

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-11 Thread Raul Siles
Hi Taras, I'm not sure if Floyd purpose was this, but it is useful to play around the client side contraints, as they can provide a very good insight of what the developers implemented on the server side too. Both contraints, client and server, should be the same, but sometimes they are out of sync

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-11 Thread Taras
Floyd, >>>First of all I think that I don't really understand what more complex >>>HTML analysis we need in W3AF and needing to take attention in such >>>things (which are controlled on client side) like HTML tag attribute >>>maxlength. Floyd could you please describe a bit more it? > > I think it

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-11 Thread Floyd Fuh
Hey taras and list >>> > - Is there a plugin that analyzes HTML code (like input length >>> > fields) and then generates injection strings out of it? >>> > Example: There is a >> > maxlength="30">> tag and w3af tries to inject strings with lengths >>> > 29, 30 and 31

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-10 Thread Taras
Hi, all! Please read in line. > > >> > > - Is there a plugin that analyzes HTML code (like input length fields) > > and then generates injection strings out of it? > > Example: There is a > > > tag and w3af tries to inject strings with lengths 29, 30 and 31 > > >> > > >>Fo

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-10 Thread Andres Riancho
Floyd, Please read inline, On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Floyd Fuh wrote: > > Dear w3af developers > > Please read inline > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009, Andres Riancho wrote: > >>Floyd, > >> > >>On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Floyd Fuh > wrote: > > Dear w3af developers > >

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-11-10 Thread Floyd Fuh
Dear w3af developers Please read inline On Tue, Oct 20, 2009, Andres Riancho wrote: >>Floyd, >> >>On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Floyd Fuh > wrote: Dear w3af developers - Is there a plugin where I can just specify a list of strings, which is used for every found para

Re: [W3af-develop] Different plugins

2009-10-20 Thread Andres Riancho
Floyd, On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Floyd Fuh wrote: > > Dear w3af developers > > - Is there a plugin where I can just specify a list of strings, which is used > for every found parameter (GET, POST)? >    Example: Crawler finds http://www.example.com/index.html?id=5 and fuzzes > the id pa