Right, that is great news Neil, glad you got it sorted and strange that just a 
cable made the difference. But a good lesson for us all to be aware of.


Regards

Pete

> On 26 Mar 2022, at 1:38 pm, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> Great outcome Neil.
> Good old fashioned persistence eh !
> 
>> On 26 Mar 2022, at 1:02 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>>  
>> No, only newer machine is a Macbook Air which, aside from being with Georgie 
>> in Perth at the moment, only has USB3 ports. So no other way to test the 
>> same monitor/lead setup.
>>  
>> But, I’m pretty sure it shouldn’t be the older OSX since the machine, as 
>> bought, supposedly supported video output up to 2560x1600 through the mini 
>> display port and it came with SL 10.6!
>>  
>>  
>> However, since Officeworks is a 15 minute walk, and since I value my ever 
>> diminishing time on this earth, I may pass on saving a few dollars waiting 
>> for Amazon and just buy the lead and see if it works!
>>  
>> Sometime later ……     Well, that DID work!!
>>  
>> Both iMac and external monitor are now set at 2560x1440 and, interestingly, 
>> the monitor display also seems much crisper and cleaner with the new cable.
>>  
>> Also, a quick systems report now shows that the iMac recognises the display 
>> as:
>> LEN D32qc-20:
>>   Resolution:       2560 x 1440 @ 60 Hz
>>   Pixel Depth:     32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
>>   Mirror:               Off
>>   Online:               Yes
>>   Rotation:           Supported
>>   Connection Type:          DisplayPort
>>   Television:        Yes
>>  
>> So, now I’m a happy camper and, even though the monitor only has the same 
>> resolution as the iMac screen, the larger physical size means I don’t need 
>> the same zoom level on Excel spreadsheets and so see more of each worksheet.
>>  
>> The lesson learned is:
>> If you want to drive an external monitor from an older Mac with a mini 
>> display port  output you will get MUCH better results with a mini display 
>> port to display port cable than with a mini display port to HDMI cable.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Cheers
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Neil
>>  
>> From: <wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au> on behalf of Peter 
>> Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au>
>> Reply-To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au>
>> Date: Friday, 25 March 2022 at 14:26
>> To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au>
>> Subject: Re: [WAMUG] Cannot get external monitor to display full resolution
>>  
>> Hi Neil, I read this with interest as I too have found the adaption of 
>> external monitors with Mac’s a bit hit and miss. 
>>  
>> As a test, do you have on hand a late model Mac/Macbook you could see if the 
>> later OSX is smarter in this sense and how it recognises the external 
>> monitor when you plug it in using the leads you currently have and get the 
>> quick systems report for the connected monitor. Your 2009 Mac is certainly 
>> high spec but by being 2009, it is held back to older OSX versions and 
>> perhaps this may be the issue. You may have to get yourself a late model 
>> iMac but I wouldn’t resort to that yet.
>>  
>> Pete.
>>  
>> 
>>> On 25 Mar 2022, at 1:48 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> OK, here is the iMac setup:
>>>  
>>> Late 2009 27” iMac – top configuration, 2.8 GHz core i7, Graphics ATI 
>>> Radeon HD 4850 512 MB
>>> iMac has been reconfigured with 250 GB SSD, 3TB internal drive and 
>>> currently 20GB RAM
>>> Currently running El Capitan OSX 10.11.6
>>>  
>>> With the SSD and RAM upgrade this is still pretty snappy and I am 
>>> frequently running multiple Excel spreadsheets and/or multiple browser 
>>> windows with many tabs in each – which took me to a second monitor.
>>>  
>>> For a while I had a 27” full HD 1920x1080 monitor running, which all worked 
>>> fine but I found the discontinuity of tracking from the 2560x1440 iMac 
>>> screen to the 1920x1080 monitor screen sufficiently annoying that I ended 
>>> up reducing the iMac resolution to 1920x1080 to match the monitor – which I 
>>> found much more useable.
>>>  
>>> However it seemed a shame to have to resort to downgrading the iMac 
>>> resolution – so, given that the iMac can support video output up to 
>>> 2560x1600 - I decided to upgrade the monitor!
>>>  
>>> I found a good deal on a 31.5” monitor with 2560x1440 resolution – the same 
>>> as the iMac native resolution this was the product (though it was only $355 
>>> when I bought it)
>>> https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B08J3S6BT4
>>>  
>>> I was pretty happy when after promising delivery by March 30 to April 11 
>>> they actually delivered it yesterday – 2 days after I ordered it!
>>>  
>>> So all setup and ready to go – and it is all working fine EXCEPT, despite 
>>> the monitor having 2560x1440 resolution,  the maximum resolution offered in 
>>>  the OSX display preferences is 1080i, ie 1920x1080 and a quick systems 
>>> report shows that the iMac recognises the display as:
>>> LEN D32qc-20:
>>>   Resolution:       1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz (1080i)
>>>   Pixel Depth:     32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
>>>   Mirror:               Off
>>>   Online:               Yes
>>>   Rotation:           Supported
>>>   Interlaced:        Yes
>>>   Television:        Yes
>>>  
>>> In my setup the monitor connection is by a direct mini display port to hdmi 
>>> cable (no adaptors) as this was readily available when I bought my previous 
>>> monitor.
>>>  
>>> I have googled this and find that this is not an uncommon problem and not 
>>> specific to any particular monitor but seems to be a problem with the Mac 
>>> recognising the availability of the higher resolution of an attached 
>>> monitor. People seem to have mixed success in resolving this problem but 
>>> some seem to have more luck with Display port connections, rather than 
>>> hdmi, recognising higher resolutions and this monitor does have a display 
>>> port input as well as hdmi.
>>>  
>>> So, I guess, the question is – does anyone have any experience of driving 
>>> higher resolution monitors from older imacs? Is buying a new cable such as 
>>> this:
>>> https://www.amazon.com.au/Rankie-DisplayPort-Cable-Resolution-Ready/dp/B00YOQYQWY
>>> or this:
>>> https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/comsol-displayport-to-mini-displayport-4k-cable-2m-comdpdp020
>>>  
>>> likely to solve my problem?
>>>  
>>> Any feedback gratefully received!
>>>  
>>> Cheers
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Neil
>>>  
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