OK Bill,

   That narrows it down a bit. We now know:


    1. Your modem is connected to the NBN and its wireless network is
       working OK - I presume some (if not all) of the devices you
       mentioned as connected are connected by wifi (iPhones don't do
       ethernet!)
    2. The physical wifi on your Mac mini works OK because you used it to
       connect to your phone hotspot.


   So the problem is just getting the Mac mini to connect to the modem
   wifi network.


   I presume that, as suggested, you have already tried just switching OFF
   wifi on the Mac mini and then switching it ON again. I also presume the
   Mac mini is in reasonable wifi proximity to the modem.


   If this has not worked, it maybe that the wifi details have changed
   since you last used the mac mini – so we need to check all this.


     * First off you need to make a note of the current wifi network name
       – check this by going to your iMac or Macbook air and looking at
       the network preference pane to see what the “Network Name” is and
       make a note of it. Also make a note of your wifi password.
     * It is worth noting that many modern modems have two separate wifi
       networks – one running at 5GHz and one running at 2.4GHz – if you
       have not changed the default names they will be very similar but
       slightly different – for example my names are:  InternodeF7535B
       and InternodeF7535B-5G – unless you have a definire need to use
       different networks for certain devices, I would suggest it is best
       to have all devices connected to the same network.
     * Now go to your Mac mini and open the network pane in system
       preferences – is the network name showing the same name – if not,
       open the drop down list to show other networks available and,
       assuming your correct network is showing select this.


   If this has solved it -great. If not, it maybe best to remove the
   network from the computers “remembered networks”  In the network
   preferences pane:
    1. Uncheck the “Automatically join this network” box
    2. Turn the wifi OFF
    3. Click the “Advanced” button and make sure the “Wifi” tab is
       selected
    4. You will see a list of “Preferred Networks” – depending on how many
       networks you have used in the past, there maybe a few names here.
       Delete any older networks and delete the current network you are
       having problems with.
    5. Click “OK”
    6. You are now back to the main network preferences pane. Turn wifi
       back on.
    7. “Network Name” should now show “No network selected” – open the
       drop down list and select your correct network. If/when prompted
       enter your wifi password.
    8. If all is now working you can now check the “Automatically join
       this network” box


   If you are still having problems, report back with details of what went
   wrong & when.



   HTH



   Cheers



   Neil




   -----Original Message-----

   From: WAMUG <wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au> on behalf of Juliet
   Kitson via WAMUG <wa...@lists.wamug.org.au>

   Reply-To: WAMUG <wa...@lists.wamug.org.au>

   Date: Thursday, 08 December 2022 at 15:12

   To: WAMUG <wa...@lists.wamug.org.au>

   Cc: Juliet Kitson <billand...@gmail.com>

   Subject: Re: [WAMUG] Mac mini


          G’day


          The modem connects to my iMac my MacBook Air and 2 iPhones and
   smart tv

          so I think it’s a problem with the Mac mini.


          Regards Bill


          On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 16:02 Neil Houghton via WAMUG

          <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:


               Thanks for the update, Bill - glad you have now got your
   date &

            time

               setup.

               Since you first mentioned you were doing this to use iView,
   I

            guess

               using your phone hotspot is not a long term solution unless
   you

            have a

               huge data allowance on your mobile plan - so you need to
   get

            connected

               to the NBN via that Telstra modem!

               As I mentioned before, this is really a two part problem:

                1. Making sure that the Telstra modem is correctly
   accessing the

                   internet.

                2. Connecting your Mac mini to the modem.

                 * Your reply indicates that point 2) is definitely a
   problem

            (your

                   wifi symbol is greyed out).

                 * This maybe the only problem, but you have not indicated
   if

            you have

                   confirmed that 1) is not also a problem – have you got
   any

            other

                   device connected to the internet (and working) via this

            modem?

               There are various approaches you could take to narrow down
   and

            address

               the problem, but one way is just to try and reset
   everything and

            see

               how you go – so you might take this approach:

                1. Switch off your Telstra modem.

                2. Turn off wifi on your Mac mini

                3. Restart you Mac mini

                4. Turn your Telstra modem back on

                5. Go have a cup of tea and allow plenty off time for your
   modem

            to

                   reboot/reset/connect to the NBN etc.

                6. Go to the Mac mini, turn wifi back on and make sure
   that it

            is

                   connecting to the right wifi network (your Telstra
   modem)

                7. Assuming that you have successfully connected to the
   correct

            wifi

                   network – confirm your internet connection is working
   OK for

            Safari

                   and for Mail (assuming you have mail setup on this
   machine)

               If all the above goes OK – you should be good to go with
   iview!

               If you are still having problems, report back with details
   of

            what went

               wrong & when.

               HTH

               Cheers

               Neil

               -----Original Message-----

               From: WAMUG <[2]wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au> on behalf
   of

            Juliet

               Kitson via WAMUG <[3]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au>

               Reply-To: WAMUG <[4]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au>

               Date: Wednesday, 07 December 2022 at 19:21

               To: WAMUG <[5]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au>

               Cc: Juliet Kitson <[6]billand...@gmail.com>

               Subject: Re: [WAMUG] Mac mini

                      Hello All,

                      It's all down to memory loss when I first started
   using

            this

               mini it

                      was not going to go online so instead of giving a
   password

            I

               just hit

                      enter, then when switched on today a password was

            requested to

               setup

                      time etc., I forgot that my password was nothing so
   I

            finally

               got

                      everything ready to setup but could not connect to

            internet.

                      Checked in system preferences indicated that I was

            connected to

               my

                      network but the wifi symbol at top of screen was
   blanked

            out,

               after a

                      lot of thought tried to connect via hotspot on my
   phone

            and got

                      connected but I still can't connect via my telstra
   modem.

                      End of long story showing what happens when you get
   to 83

            and

               start to

                      forget things, Thanks for all the help offered.

                      Regards Bill & Juliet

                      PS I now live in Victoria.

                      On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 6:05 PM Neil Houghton via
   WAMUG

                      <[1][7]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:

                        Hi Bill,

                        Let's try & clarify your exact problem.

                        From your replies I understand that you do not
   actually

            have a

                        password to login - but some sort of network
   problem

            which is

                        stopping you from changing/setting the date/time -
   is

            that

               right?

                        To further clarify just what is happening:

                        Can you open system preferences?

                        If so - go to the Users and groups pane - are you
   logged

            in as

               the

                        only user? Can you confirm you have admin
   privileges

                        Assuming that you are logged in as an
   administrator, go

            to the

               Date

                        & Time pane and the Date & Time tab - I assume the
   check

            box

               is

                        ticked to "Set date and time automatically" and a

            suitable

               time

                        server is selected. Eg Apple

            asia([2][8]time.asia.apple.com?

                        Assuming this is all OK, your problem seems to be
   that

            you do

               not

                        have the internet connection to allow the time
   server to

                        automatically set the system time.

                        We need to narrow down the problem:

                        Is your NBN modem correctly connected to the
   Internet -

            do you

               have

                        any other devices currently connected to the
   Internet

            via this

                        modem? Ipad, laptop, other computer, smart TV etc.
   If

            some

               other

                        device is accessing the Internet with no problem
   through

            the

               same

                        modem then that should prove that this is not the

            problem.

                        How is your computer connected to the NBN?  Go to
   the

            network

               pane

                        of system preferences and check. Are you connected
   via

            wifi or

                        internet?

                        Select the mode that is showing as connected and
   it

            should

               give

                        further details under Status: connected.

                        Assuming that you are connected via wifi (the most

            common

               setup) try

                        turning wifi OFF and then back ON again - I
   sometimes

            find

               this

                        helps when things are playing up.

                        If this has not worked and you had no other device

            confirming

               that

                        the NBN internet connection was OK you could try

            switching OFF

               the

                        NBN modem, leaving a few minutes and then
   switching it

            back ON

               again

                        - it then might take a few minutes to boot up and
   go

            through

               its

                        connection procedures. If you do this, you may
   also need

            to

               repeat

                        the wifi disconnect/reconnect thing.

                        I sometimes find that internet connections can get

            confused -

               I

                        don't normally have problems with my computers but
   my

            old

               SAMSUNG

                        smart TV often seems to lose connection and
   requires

            various

               steps

                        (including switching the TV OFF/ON) before it can

            reconnect!

                        Let us know how all this goes and the answers to

            questions

               above!

                        HTH

                        Cheers

                        Neil

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