Re: Proposed changes to the WAMUG constitution

[Neil Houghton]

I am also unable to attend the meeting and would strongly support the the
proposed Constitution changes.

Unfortunately I don¹t think us non-attendees can currently appoint proxies
and vote through them.

Catch 22:
* We can only vote by proxy if the constitution is changed
* We can only change the constitution at the AGM
* We need a quorum to hold the AGM

So, my very best wishes in getting a quorum for the AGM and my (non-votable)
support for the proposed changes to the constitution.

Hopefully, you get it all through and we will have proxy voting and more
practical quorum criteria for next year¹s AGM.


Cheers




Neil
-- 
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com








on 26/2/16 8:07, John Thompson at jetj...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

> Please accept my apologies as I will be unable to attend this year¹s AGM.
> 
> I agree with the proposed Constitution changes and if possible, would like
> either Peter Hinchliffe or Maureen Smith to act as my proxy.
> 
> Regarded to all
> 
> John Thompson 
> Member # 861
> 
>> On 25 Feb 2016, at 9:20 PM, Maureen Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello wonderful WAMUGgers,
>> 
>> As has been previously mentioned, the Committee has been looking at some
>> changes to the constitution.
>> 
>> These are the proposed amendments. Members in attendance at the AGM will be
>> able to vote on two special resolutions (motions) reflecting these
>> amendments. 
>> The actual resolutions will be emailed to all financial members this weekend.
>> The amendments are to do with the Quorum and Voting.
>> 
>> 5.4 Quorum
>> 
>> The existing constitution reads -
>> 
>> No business shall be transacted at any General Meeting unless a quorum of not
>> less than twenty per cent of the
>> Ordinary Members on the Register or fifteen Ordinary Members (whichever is
>> less) is present at the Meeting.
>> If within half an hour from the time appointed for the Meeting a quorum is
>> not present 
>> the Meeting shall stand adjourned to the same day in the following week at
>> the same time and place,
>> and at such adjourned Meeting the business of the Meeting may be transacted
>> whether there be a quorum present or not.
>> 
>> Proposed Amendment-
>>  
>> ³not less than twenty per cent² -  Change to read³not less than ten per cent²
>> ³or fifteen Ordinary Members² - Change to read ³or ten Ordinary Members²
>> ³following week at the same time and place,²  - Change to read ³following
>> week at the same time and at a nominated place,²
>> 
>> 
>> 5.6 Voting
>> 
>> The existing constitution reads -
>>  
>> All financial Life Members and Ordinary Members in attendance may vote at a
>> General Meeting.
>> Voting shall take place  by a show of hands, or by ballot if demanded by the
>> majority of Members present.
>> The deliberative vote of each Member shall be of equal weight, provided that
>> the Chairperson shall have an additional casting vote in the event of an
>> equality of votes.
>> 
>> Proposed Amendment
>> ³All financial Life Members² - Delete the word financial
>> ³and Ordinary Members in attendance² -  Change to read ³and financial
>> Ordinary and Corporate Members.²
>> ³Voting shall take place  by a show of hands, or by ballot if demanded by the
>> majority of Members present.² - Change to read ³in person, by proxy or as
>> described in the by-laws.²
>> 
>> The reasoning for the changes will be highlighted when the resolutions are
>> emailed.
>> 
>> I hope everything makes sense.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Maureen
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Re: Proposed changes to the WAMUG constitution

[Severin Crisp]

I approve these changes and appoint the Chairperson as my proxy.   
Severin Crisp


> On 25 Feb 2016, at 9:20 PM, Maureen Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hello wonderful WAMUGgers,
> 
> As has been previously mentioned, the Committee has been looking at some 
> changes to the constitution.
> 
> These are the proposed amendments. Members in attendance at the AGM will be 
> able to vote on two special resolutions (motions) reflecting these 
> amendments. 
> The actual resolutions will be emailed to all financial members this weekend. 
> The amendments are to do with the Quorum and Voting.
> 
> 5.4 Quorum
> 
> The existing constitution reads -
> 
> No business shall be transacted at any General Meeting unless a quorum of not 
> less than twenty per cent of the 
> Ordinary Members on the Register or fifteen Ordinary Members (whichever is 
> less) is present at the Meeting. 
> If within half an hour from the time appointed for the Meeting a quorum is 
> not present 
> the Meeting shall stand adjourned to the same day in the following week at 
> the same time and place, 
> and at such adjourned Meeting the business of the Meeting may be transacted 
> whether there be a quorum present or not.
> 
> Proposed Amendment-
>  
> “not less than twenty per cent” -  Change to read“not less than ten per cent”
> “or fifteen Ordinary Members” - Change to read “or ten Ordinary Members”
> “following week at the same time and place,”  - Change to read “following 
> week at the same time and at a nominated place,”
> 
> 
> 5.6 Voting
> 
> The existing constitution reads -
>  
> All financial Life Members and Ordinary Members in attendance may vote at a 
> General Meeting.
> Voting shall take place  by a show of hands, or by ballot if demanded by the 
> majority of Members present. 
> The deliberative vote of each Member shall be of equal weight, provided that 
> the Chairperson shall have an additional casting vote in the event of an 
> equality of votes.
> 
> Proposed Amendment
> “All financial Life Members” - Delete the word financial
> “and Ordinary Members in attendance” -  Change to read “and financial 
> Ordinary and Corporate Members.”
> “Voting shall take place  by a show of hands, or by ballot if demanded by the 
> majority of Members present.” - Change to read “in person, by proxy or as 
> described in the by-laws.” 
> 
> The reasoning for the changes will be highlighted when the resolutions are 
> emailed.
> 
> I hope everything makes sense.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Maureen
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Re: Proposed changes to the WAMUG constitution

[John Thompson]

Please accept my apologies as I will be unable to attend this year’s AGM.

I agree with the proposed Constitution changes and if possible, would like 
either Peter Hinchliffe or Maureen Smith to act as my proxy.

Regarded to all

John Thompson 
Member # 861

> On 25 Feb 2016, at 9:20 PM, Maureen Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hello wonderful WAMUGgers,
> 
> As has been previously mentioned, the Committee has been looking at some 
> changes to the constitution.
> 
> These are the proposed amendments. Members in attendance at the AGM will be 
> able to vote on two special resolutions (motions) reflecting these 
> amendments. 
> The actual resolutions will be emailed to all financial members this weekend. 
> The amendments are to do with the Quorum and Voting.
> 
> 5.4 Quorum
> 
> The existing constitution reads -
> 
> No business shall be transacted at any General Meeting unless a quorum of not 
> less than twenty per cent of the 
> Ordinary Members on the Register or fifteen Ordinary Members (whichever is 
> less) is present at the Meeting. 
> If within half an hour from the time appointed for the Meeting a quorum is 
> not present 
> the Meeting shall stand adjourned to the same day in the following week at 
> the same time and place, 
> and at such adjourned Meeting the business of the Meeting may be transacted 
> whether there be a quorum present or not.
> 
> Proposed Amendment-
>  
> “not less than twenty per cent” -  Change to read“not less than ten per cent”
> “or fifteen Ordinary Members” - Change to read “or ten Ordinary Members”
> “following week at the same time and place,”  - Change to read “following 
> week at the same time and at a nominated place,”
> 
> 
> 5.6 Voting
> 
> The existing constitution reads -
>  
> All financial Life Members and Ordinary Members in attendance may vote at a 
> General Meeting.
> Voting shall take place  by a show of hands, or by ballot if demanded by the 
> majority of Members present. 
> The deliberative vote of each Member shall be of equal weight, provided that 
> the Chairperson shall have an additional casting vote in the event of an 
> equality of votes.
> 
> Proposed Amendment
> “All financial Life Members” - Delete the word financial
> “and Ordinary Members in attendance” -  Change to read “and financial 
> Ordinary and Corporate Members.”
> “Voting shall take place  by a show of hands, or by ballot if demanded by the 
> majority of Members present.” - Change to read “in person, by proxy or as 
> described in the by-laws.” 
> 
> The reasoning for the changes will be highlighted when the resolutions are 
> emailed.
> 
> I hope everything makes sense.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Maureen
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Re: Share Voice Memo

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Alex,

This might help you solve your Apple ID
If you forgot your Apple ID 
Use these steps to find your Apple ID.


Sent from Ronni's iPad4

> On 26 Feb 2016, at 12:05 AM, Alex  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni
> 
> thanks mutely for your help - I will try calling Apple this morning to sort 
> out the Apple ID issue & then try again.
> 
> Cheers,  Alex
> 
>> On 25 Feb 2016, at 7:24 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> No you aren’t blind.
>> But you won’t be able to follow my instructions or be able to upload the 
>> Voice Memo to Dropbox until you fix the problems on your computers, and sort 
>> your Apple ID (as it is required), and update your Dropbox applications to 
>> the current versions on both your computers and your iPhone. 
>> 
>> The current Dropbox Desktop (for OS X) is version 3.14.7
>> The current Dropbox iOS version is 4.2.5
>> 
>> The HOME button I mentioned below is the HOME button on your iPhone to get 
>> back to the home screen so you would have been able to open Voice Memos.
>> 
>> We can’t help you anymore until you complete the above.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
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Re: Share Voice Memo

[Alex]

Hi Ronni

thanks mutely for your help - I will try calling Apple this morning to sort out 
the Apple ID issue & then try again.

Cheers,  Alex

> On 25 Feb 2016, at 7:24 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> No you aren’t blind.
> But you won’t be able to follow my instructions or be able to upload the 
> Voice Memo to Dropbox until you fix the problems on your computers, and sort 
> your Apple ID (as it is required), and update your Dropbox applications to 
> the current versions on both your computers and your iPhone. 
> 
> The current Dropbox Desktop (for OS X) is version 3.14.7
> The current Dropbox iOS version is 4.2.5
> 
> The HOME button I mentioned below is the HOME button on your iPhone to get 
> back to the home screen so you would have been able to open Voice Memos.
> 
> We can’t help you anymore until you complete the above.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 25 Feb 2016, at 12:21 AM, Alex > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni (& Neil)
>> 
>> Many thanks for your replies.  I must be blind as nothing is working & I am 
>> certainly not seeing what you are explaining to me.  So I am frustrated as 
>> you must be when you are seeing something that I am not.
>> 
>> Please see below for my responses to both your replies in blue & red:
>> 
>>> On 24 Feb 2016, at 7:24 pm, Ronni Brown >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Neil,
>>> 
 On 24 Feb 2016, at 2:11 PM, Neil Houghton > wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, Hi Alex,
 
 I don’t use notes and my old iPhones can’t run the latest IOS – so this is 
 just a stab in the dark  ;o)
 
 Given the sensitive nature of Dropbox, I would imagine, somewhere in the 
 IOS settings (possibly Dropbox settings) you allow access on an app by app 
 basis.
 
 Perhaps you actually have to give the Voice memo app specific access to 
 Dropbox on your phone.
>>> 
>>> As I’ve tried to explain before to Alex.
>>> Note: In case you can’t see option “Save to Dropbox,” please ensure that 
>>> “Save to Dropbox” option is toggled on in Activities. To turn this option 
>>> on, tap on “More” and toggle “Save to Dropbox” on. And tap on Done. 
>> The only place I see Activities is when I am in Voice Memo & I select More. 
>> When I select the top option, I get Activities with Message, Mail & Notes. 
>> Notes has a toggle, the other 2 don’t.  If I select the lower More, as you 
>> have suggested, I get Activities but it is blank - no options at all.  Is 
>> Activities something that lives in Voice Memo only?  I can’t see any 
>> reference to it anywhere else.
>> 
 (more below - excuse the pun!)
 
 Just a thought.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com 
 
 
 
 
 on 24/2/16 13:37, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com  
 wrote:
 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> I don't know why you are not seeing "Save to Dropbox” or unable to upload 
> the Voice Memo to Dropbox.
> What version of iOS are you using... iOS 9.2.1? And do you have the 
> latest version of Dropbox?
>>  I upgraded to 9.2.1 this evening.  Dropbox ver is 3.6.3 which is not 
>> the latest & herein lies another problem I have.  I can’t  
>> upgrade any apps I have purchased at the App Store as when it asks me to 
>> enter my password, it specifies an Apple IDthat is no 
>> longer valid, i.e. my original non-email address ID.  Yet if I go into 
>> iTunes & App Stores in Settings on thephone, 
>> it shows my Apple ID as my email address
> 
> 1. Tap Dropbox so it is open - then press the Home button My Dropbox on 
> the phone does not have a Home button!  so the points below won’t help. 
> When I tap that icon, it opens up & shows a Getting Started pdf, 2 
> folders I created from my laptop, one folder that I was invited to, 
> another for screenshots & another for Camera Uploads.  Up the top right I 
> have 3 circles that lead to Add Files, Create Folder, Select,Sort by 
> Date.  Down the bottom, I have Files, Photos, Favourites & Settings
>>  I must be missing something!
> 2. Tap Extras > Tap Voice Memos
> 3. Select your Voice Memo recording file - then Tap share [↑]
> 3. Tap ‘… More’ (Tap the 2nd ‘More’ that is under the ‘Message, Mail, 
> Notes, More’ line). 
> 4. Then tap ”Save to Dropbox" or tap …More again 
> 5. In the Save to Dropbox window that appears you should see FILE (your 
> voice memo) SAVE LOCATION (Dropbox ✔) Tap Save
> 6.You will then see message ‘Uploading’ and eventually ’Saved’ and the 
> ‘Voice Memo.m4a’ will be in your Dropbox App in Files.
>  
> Note: 

Re: Share Voice Memo

[Alex]

That was supposed to be muchly!

> On 25 Feb 2016, at 7:24 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> No you aren’t blind.
> But you won’t be able to follow my instructions or be able to upload the 
> Voice Memo to Dropbox until you fix the problems on your computers, and sort 
> your Apple ID (as it is required), and update your Dropbox applications to 
> the current versions on both your computers and your iPhone. 
> 
> The current Dropbox Desktop (for OS X) is version 3.14.7
> The current Dropbox iOS version is 4.2.5
> 
> The HOME button I mentioned below is the HOME button on your iPhone to get 
> back to the home screen so you would have been able to open Voice Memos.
> 
> We can’t help you anymore until you complete the above.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 25 Feb 2016, at 12:21 AM, Alex > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni (& Neil)
>> 
>> Many thanks for your replies.  I must be blind as nothing is working & I am 
>> certainly not seeing what you are explaining to me.  So I am frustrated as 
>> you must be when you are seeing something that I am not.
>> 
>> Please see below for my responses to both your replies in blue & red:
>> 
>>> On 24 Feb 2016, at 7:24 pm, Ronni Brown >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Neil,
>>> 
 On 24 Feb 2016, at 2:11 PM, Neil Houghton > wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, Hi Alex,
 
 I don’t use notes and my old iPhones can’t run the latest IOS – so this is 
 just a stab in the dark  ;o)
 
 Given the sensitive nature of Dropbox, I would imagine, somewhere in the 
 IOS settings (possibly Dropbox settings) you allow access on an app by app 
 basis.
 
 Perhaps you actually have to give the Voice memo app specific access to 
 Dropbox on your phone.
>>> 
>>> As I’ve tried to explain before to Alex.
>>> Note: In case you can’t see option “Save to Dropbox,” please ensure that 
>>> “Save to Dropbox” option is toggled on in Activities. To turn this option 
>>> on, tap on “More” and toggle “Save to Dropbox” on. And tap on Done. 
>> The only place I see Activities is when I am in Voice Memo & I select More. 
>> When I select the top option, I get Activities with Message, Mail & Notes. 
>> Notes has a toggle, the other 2 don’t.  If I select the lower More, as you 
>> have suggested, I get Activities but it is blank - no options at all.  Is 
>> Activities something that lives in Voice Memo only?  I can’t see any 
>> reference to it anywhere else.
>> 
 (more below - excuse the pun!)
 
 Just a thought.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com 
 
 
 
 
 on 24/2/16 13:37, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com  
 wrote:
 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> I don't know why you are not seeing "Save to Dropbox” or unable to upload 
> the Voice Memo to Dropbox.
> What version of iOS are you using... iOS 9.2.1? And do you have the 
> latest version of Dropbox?
>>  I upgraded to 9.2.1 this evening.  Dropbox ver is 3.6.3 which is not 
>> the latest & herein lies another problem I have.  I can’t  
>> upgrade any apps I have purchased at the App Store as when it asks me to 
>> enter my password, it specifies an Apple IDthat is no 
>> longer valid, i.e. my original non-email address ID.  Yet if I go into 
>> iTunes & App Stores in Settings on thephone, 
>> it shows my Apple ID as my email address
> 
> 1. Tap Dropbox so it is open - then press the Home button My Dropbox on 
> the phone does not have a Home button!  so the points below won’t help. 
> When I tap that icon, it opens up & shows a Getting Started pdf, 2 
> folders I created from my laptop, one folder that I was invited to, 
> another for screenshots & another for Camera Uploads.  Up the top right I 
> have 3 circles that lead to Add Files, Create Folder, Select,Sort by 
> Date.  Down the bottom, I have Files, Photos, Favourites & Settings
>>  I must be missing something!
> 2. Tap Extras > Tap Voice Memos
> 3. Select your Voice Memo recording file - then Tap share [↑]
> 3. Tap ‘… More’ (Tap the 2nd ‘More’ that is under the ‘Message, Mail, 
> Notes, More’ line). 
> 4. Then tap ”Save to Dropbox" or tap …More again 
> 5. In the Save to Dropbox window that appears you should see FILE (your 
> voice memo) SAVE LOCATION (Dropbox ✔) Tap Save
> 6.You will then see message ‘Uploading’ and eventually ’Saved’ and the 
> ‘Voice Memo.m4a’ will be in your Dropbox App in Files.
>  
> Note: Depending on how large the Voice Memo file is & the speed of your 
> upload connection it could take quite