Re: Chrome browser

[FW]

Thanks Stephen,

Cheers
Walter

> On 4 May 2019, at 19:46 , Stephen Chape  wrote:
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> Hi Walter.
> Probably safer to install Firefox.
> My daughter uses Firefox for sites that are not friendly to Safari.
> 
> Chrome is Google.
> Google and Facebook are the two big data gatherers and trackers to avoid.
> My family and some friends keep away from both of these.
> 
>> On 4 May 2019, at 12:28 pm, FW  wrote:
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>> Good afternoon all,
>> 
>> Is there any reason why I should not install Chrome on my iMac (10.14.4) ?
>> Safari is not working with a particular website.
>> Anything one needs to observe when installing Chrome ?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Walter
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> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
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Re: Chrome browser

[Stephen Chape]

Hi Walter.
Probably safer to install Firefox.
My daughter uses Firefox for sites that are not friendly to Safari.

Chrome is Google.
Google and Facebook are the two big data gatherers and trackers to avoid.
My family and some friends keep away from both of these.

> On 4 May 2019, at 12:28 pm, FW  wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon all,
> 
> Is there any reason why I should not install Chrome on my iMac (10.14.4) ?
> Safari is not working with a particular website.
> Anything one needs to observe when installing Chrome ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Walter
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Stephen Chape






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Re: OSX/IOS notes in iCloud - problem with iPad

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Ronni,

 

Thanks for your advice – my replies in situ:

 

I’m starting to think that although the ipads on  IOS 10.3.3 and 9.3.5 and the 
iMac on OSX 10.11.6 are all capable of the notes “upgrade” the OSX Notes app 
continues to work fine on creating notes in icloud and moving notes to icloud 
but the IOS Notes app no longer allows this.

 

I suspect that Georgie will prefer to just leave things as is and accept that 
her ipad will not create notes in icloud rather than lose the Notes 
functionalty on the phone (which is what she uses 90% of the time) and have to 
use the Web app.

 

I’m continuing to look at alternatives.

 

 

Cheers

 

 

Neil

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Albany, Western Australia

Tel: +61 8 9841 6063

Email: n...@possumology.com

 

 

From:  on behalf of Ronni Brown 

Reply-To: WAMUG 
Date: Saturday, 04 May 2019 at 13:09
To: WAMUG 
Subject: Re: OSX/IOS notes in iCloud - problem with iPad

 

Hi Neil,

>From what I understand (but other members that know more about the Notes App, 
>please help),

even to see the new features and sync those notes to other devices, you must 
“upgrade” your Notes accounts after updating to iOS 9 (or OS X 10.11 El 
Capitan). 

 

I’m happy to accept that we will not see or be able to use any of the new 
features until we upgrade. Happy enough to just have the old functionality 
until we (eventually) get rid of the old iPhones.

It is not the case that the devices do not sync to icloud without upgrading – I 
have not upgraded but I can still create notes in icloud on the iMac using OSX 
10.11.6 and even on the old iPhones using IOS 7.1.2. These notes sync across 
all devices and once in icloud they are seen on the ipads – the only problem is 
that we cannot CREATE notes in icloud on the iPads.

 

 

 

The problem with doing so is that the Notes app in 10.10 Yosemite (and iOS 8) 
doesn’t support the new format, so notes in your iCloud account won’t sync 
until upgraded. 

This is why I have not upgraded – at the moment all devices sync OK but if I 
upgrade the iPhones will no longer see any of the upgraded notes – since (for 
Georgie) 905 of these notes are created and viewed on the iPhone that would be 
a worse problem than our current one ;o)



So your choice is probably… Upgrade the iPhone 4S to iOS 9.3.5

The phones are both the original iPhone4s – so IOS 7.1.2 is as high as they go.



Upgrade Notes on your iOS 9 devices and use the iCloud.com Web app on 
unsupported devices.

Georgie would be happier living with the current problem than losing the Notes 
functionality on her phone and having to use the web app.



On the iPads - Settings > Notes - Accounts - Default Account is iCloud - I’m 
thinking you might also have “On My iPad” account selected?

No default account IS set to iCloud – however the notes are still created in 
“on my iPad”

 

 

Cheers,

Ronni

 

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz

8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
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macOS High Sierra 10.13.6

 



On 3 May 2019, at 2:03 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:

 

Hi Ronni,

 

1.   Yes, I am signed into icloud on the ipads and can see all the notes in 
my icloud on the ipads. The problem is that we can only create new notes “on my 
ipad” and cannot move these notes to icloud.

2.   No, I have not upgraded our notes on the ipad. My understanding was 
that if we DO do that then it is the actual notes in our icloud accounts that 
get upgraded to the newer notes format and that if we do that then our iPhones 
(old iPhone4s running ios 7.1.2) will no longer be able to read these notes. 
Given that Georgie uses notes on her phone much more than on her iPad she would 
be very upset if she could no longer read the notes.

3.   My understanding was that if you did NOT upgrade then you would 
continue to use the old note format and so would miss out on any of the new 
features introduced with the notes – that is certainly how it works on my iMac 
which is running El Capitan and so is able to be upgraded to the new notes 
format (like the ipads) but I can still create notes in icloud which can be 
read on both the phones and the ipads and I can move notes from “on my 
computer” to icloud – so I sort of assumed that the same thing would work on 
the ipads?

 

So is our problem an Apple “feature” in that the OSX Notes app WILL let us 
create notes in icloud without upgrading to the new notes format but the IOS 
notes app will NOT allow this?

 

Cheers

 

 

Neil

(still confused)

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Neil R. Houghton

Albany, Western Australia

Tel: +61 8 9841 6063

Email: n...@possumology.com

 

 

From:  on behalf of Ronni Brown 

Reply-To: WAMUG 
Date: Thursday, 02 May 2019 at 14:34
To: WAMUG 
Subject: Re: OSX/IOS notes in iCloud - problem with iPad

 

Hi Neil,

 

 

I’ve only been able to give your message a quick read… so this may sound 
stupid… but are you sure you are signed into your iCloud account on the iPads.