Re: Attachment format

2004-11-02 Thread Peter Sealy


On 31/10/2004, at 1:54 PM, Peter Sealy wrote:

This request is the opposite to the more common one of how to open 
received mail attachments.


Many thanks to all who replied.



.

Peter Sealy
Thurgoona AUSTRALIA



Re: Attachment format

2004-11-01 Thread Onno Benschop
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 10:54, Peter Sealy wrote:
 I need to send an attachment to an email so it can be opened and read 
 by PC-using recipients. The attachment will be a kind of an information 
 sheet and ideally will have more than one font size and bold typing as 
 well as regular.

Send a URL instead.


 Is there any way I can set up the format using TextEdit [or Tex-Edit 
 Plus] so the PC-ers can read it? I do not have Word of any description 
 or any other word-processing app?

No.


 If the answer is no, then if I just write a standard letter format 
 using TextEdit and add .doc at the end of the title of the document 
 does that ensure that at least PC-users can open it and with the 
 original paragraph set out and formatting in place.

No, a .doc extension is not the same as a TextEdit file.


Write a HTML document, put it on the web and send the URL to your users.

Onno Benschop 

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Re: Attachment format

2004-11-01 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 31/10/2004, at 10:54 AM, Peter Sealy wrote:

This request is the opposite to the more common one of how to open 
received mail attachments.


I need to send an attachment to an email so it can be opened and read 
by PC-using recipients. The attachment will be a kind of an 
information sheet and ideally will have more than one font size and 
bold typing as well as regular.
Is there any way I can set up the format using TextEdit [or Tex-Edit 
Plus] so the PC-ers can read it? I do not have Word of any description 
or any other word-processing app?




TextEdit in Panther can save (and open) in Word format. For what you 
need, it will serve very well. If you don't have Panther, TextEDit can 
still save as RTF which pretty much any modern word processor can read. 
RTF preserves text and paragraph formatting.


You can also use the Save as PDF option from the Print dialog, but 
there's no guarantee that the recipient will have Acrobat Reader 
installed. This is not uncommon with Windows machines.


If the answer is no, then if I just write a standard letter format 
using TextEdit and add .doc at the end of the title of the document 
does that ensure that at least PC-users can open it and with the 
original paragraph set out and formatting in place.


No. The PC will just try to open it as a Word file and fail. Not only 
that, the file will actually have a Word icon and confuse the heck out 
of the recipient into the bargain.



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Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913

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Re: Attachment format

2004-11-01 Thread Craig Ringer
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 09:14, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
 On 31/10/2004, at 10:54 AM, Peter Sealy wrote:
 
  This request is the opposite to the more common one of how to open 
  received mail attachments.
 
  I need to send an attachment to an email so it can be opened and read 
  by PC-using recipients. The attachment will be a kind of an 
  information sheet and ideally will have more than one font size and 
  bold typing as well as regular.
  Is there any way I can set up the format using TextEdit [or Tex-Edit 
  Plus] so the PC-ers can read it? I do not have Word of any description 
  or any other word-processing app?
 
 TextEdit in Panther can save (and open) in Word format. For what you 
 need, it will serve very well. If you don't have Panther, TextEDit can 
 still save as RTF which pretty much any modern word processor can read. 
 RTF preserves text and paragraph formatting.

Sending documents in Word format isn't really the best manners unless
you _know_ the PC user has Word. It might not be too bad an idea to
provide an RTF, or send Word with a PDF copy as well.

 You can also use the Save as PDF option from the Print dialog, but 
 there's no guarantee that the recipient will have Acrobat Reader 
 installed. This is not uncommon with Windows machines.

On the other hand, Acrobat Reader is a free download. Word most
definitely is not - and the free Word Viewer is getting decidedly long
in the tooth.

  If the answer is no, then if I just write a standard letter format 
  using TextEdit and add .doc at the end of the title of the document 
  does that ensure that at least PC-users can open it and with the 
  original paragraph set out and formatting in place.
 
 No. The PC will just try to open it as a Word file and fail. Not only 
 that, the file will actually have a Word icon and confuse the heck out 
 of the recipient into the bargain.

I actually get messages like this (generally from mac users, perhaps
because its harder to change file extensions under Windows) a lot at
work, so it's an important thing to understand. Changing the file
extension does not change anything about the data, it just changes what
the PC will _expect_ the file to contain. It'll open it in a different
program which won't understand the file, and the recipient will usually
tell you that your document was corrupt or some-such.

I generally get the users to save such files in a network-accessible
directory and use the `file' utility found on most Linux and UNIX
systems (probably OS/X too) to identify what the real file type is, then
convert it to something our users can work with.

The single most frequent case is people renaming MS Word documents to
'.pdf' and thinking it's made a PDF. It is beyond me why they don't
attempt to open their PDF to make sure it worked before sending it to
us...

--
Craig Ringer



Attachment format

2004-10-31 Thread Peter Sealy
This request is the opposite to the more common one of how to open 
received mail attachments.


I need to send an attachment to an email so it can be opened and read 
by PC-using recipients. The attachment will be a kind of an information 
sheet and ideally will have more than one font size and bold typing as 
well as regular.
Is there any way I can set up the format using TextEdit [or Tex-Edit 
Plus] so the PC-ers can read it? I do not have Word of any description 
or any other word-processing app?


If the answer is no, then if I just write a standard letter format 
using TextEdit and add .doc at the end of the title of the document 
does that ensure that at least PC-users can open it and with the 
original paragraph set out and formatting in place.


Thanks
.

Peter Sealy
Thurgoona AUSTRALIA



Re: Attachment format

2004-10-31 Thread Robin Belford
Type what ever you want and save it as a PDF (standard in the print 
menu of OSX)

even PCs can read these (well most of them).

If that doesn't work save it as RTF, MS Word can open this and 
generally get it correct.


robin

On 31/10/2004, at 10:54 AM, Peter Sealy wrote:

This request is the opposite to the more common one of how to open 
received mail attachments.


I need to send an attachment to an email so it can be opened and read 
by PC-using recipients. The attachment will be a kind of an 
information sheet and ideally will have more than one font size and 
bold typing as well as regular.
Is there any way I can set up the format using TextEdit [or Tex-Edit 
Plus] so the PC-ers can read it? I do not have Word of any description 
or any other word-processing app?


If the answer is no, then if I just write a standard letter format 
using TextEdit and add .doc at the end of the title of the document 
does that ensure that at least PC-users can open it and with the 
original paragraph set out and formatting in place.


Thanks
.

Peter Sealy
Thurgoona AUSTRALIA


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