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the special script to find out how to run it. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 2 Jun 2014, at 1:35 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Re: Changing Get Info permissions Hi Pat, There are three specific permissions on Unix-like systems that apply to each class: Read Write Execute See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions So to run the file, read/write is not sufficient. However, I guess my questions would be: Do you really want to be running a program on your Mac from someone who can’t be bothered writing a proper Mac program? What do you know about this program/script – can it be trusted? Just my 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
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absolutely NO responsibility at all if you decide to try either of the above Terminal Commands and something goes wrong. I would strongly suggest you get in touch with the developer who built the special script to find out how to run it. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 2 Jun 2014, at 1:35 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Re: Changing Get Info permissions Hi Pat, There are three specific permissions on Unix-like systems that apply to each class: Read Write Execute See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions So to run the file, read/write is not sufficient. However, I guess my questions would be: Do you really want to be running a program on your Mac from someone who can’t be bothered writing a proper Mac program? What do you know about this program/script – can it be trusted? Just my 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
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is normally only needed by people who work under the hood and is therefore not an option in the Finder. I take absolutely NO responsibility at all if you decide to try either of the above Terminal Commands and something goes wrong. I would strongly suggest you get in touch with the developer who built the special script to find out how to run it. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 2 Jun 2014, at 1:35 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Re: Changing Get Info permissions Hi Pat, There are three specific permissions on Unix-like systems that apply to each class: Read Write Execute See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions So to run the file, read/write is not sufficient. However, I guess my questions would be: Do you really want to be running a program on your Mac from someone who can’t be bothered writing a proper Mac program? What do you know about this program/script – can it be trusted? Just my 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
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(EventDispatchThread.java:196) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:188) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:122) Attempting to launch JWildfire using the command: /System/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.6.0.jdk/Contents/Home/bin/java -Xms256m -Xmx6000m -cp /Applications/User Utilities/j-wildfire-1.62/lib/j-wildfire.jar org.jwildfire.swing.Desktop Now I really should get back to more pressing matters, so I can¹t let myself get distracted by looking at this log and I presume you are running a more up-to-date OSX and Java, so you may find you have different messages - or it may even be that my old system IS the problem and it works OK for you ;o) - either way, it would be worth you launching the j-wildfire-launcher.jar directly as it should get you further down the track and at least give you a message log to post to the forums. Interestingly, I tried launching the cut-down applet - j-wildfire-applet.jar and it runs just fine although, as the readme says: The JWildfireApplet introduced with version 1.04 is just for playing around and has only two functions: * create random fractals and display them on the screen using a progressive display * export the parameters of the currently displayed fractal (if you like it) to the clipboard for further processing in the full application So there is not much to do with it but the create next and to clipboard buttons both work! Anyway, something to try HTH Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 3/6/14 15:47, Pat at clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote: On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:08 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Re: Changing Get Info permissions Hi Pat, As Ronni says, I take no responsibility for what you do running terminal commands typos can do real damage! According to this page http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/24262/what-is-the-difference-betwee n-command-tool-and-sh-file-extensions * .command - (Terminal shell script) Specifically associates a shell script with Terminal. Sometimes referred to as a Terminal File. So: * Have you checked in the ³get info² for the file that it is set to ³open with² terminal * Have you checked that you successfully changed the permissions to give yourself execute permission (use the ³ls l² command to check the actual permissions of the .command file tell us what it says. Hi, Neil, Here is the output from Terminal: Last login: Tue Jun 3 14:40:33 on ttys001 SpeedyGonzalez:~ pat$ cd /Applications/j-wildfire-1.62 SpeedyGonzalez:j-wildfire-1.62 pat$ ls -l total 18328 -rw-r--r--@ 1 pat staff67104 26 May 23:28 CHANGES.txt -rw-r--r--@ 1 pat staff 391680 26 May 23:28 JWildfire.exe drwxr-xr-x@ 4 pat staff 136 2 Jun 13:05 META-INF -rw-r--r--@ 1 pat staff 232 26 May 23:28 README!!!.txt -rw-r--r--+ 1 pat staff 710 26 May 23:28 README_APPLET.txt -rw-r--r--+ 1 pat staff 2554 26 May 23:28 README_LAUNCH.txt -rw-r--r--@ 1 pat staff 625 26 May 23:28 README_SUPPORT.txt -rw-r--r--@ 1 pat staff 2619817 26 May 23:28 j-wildfire-applet.jar -rw-r--r--@ 1 pat staff 6266569 26 May 23:28 j-wildfire-launcher.jar drwxr-xr-x@ 4 pat staff 136 2 Jun 13:05 lib -rw-r--r--@ 1 pat staff 33 26 May 23:28 start_linux.sh -rwxr--r--@ 1 pat staff 33 2 Jun 16:24 start_mac.command -rw-r--r--@ 1 pat staff 40 26 May 23:28 start_windows.bat SpeedyGonzalez:j-wildfire-1.62 pat$ The start_mac.command is executable and is supposed to start the j-wildfire-launcher.jar which is not executable which is in the directory lib, which is executable. I tried the same Terminal method on it, but here is what Terminal says about that: Last login: Tue Jun 3 14:41:03 on ttys000 SpeedyGonzalez:~ pat$ /Applications/j-wildfire-1.62/start_mac.command ; exit; Unable to access jarfile j-wildfire-launcher.jar logout [Process completed] * When you say ³Terminal didn¹t fix the permission problems² did you get some error message in terminal when running the chmod command? There were no error messages, it¹s just that there were no visible changes in Get Info, and I couldn¹t start the program. Alternatively, unless you really want to learn a lot more about terminal, permissions etc, then it may well be easier/safer to just try the Windows program in Parallels ;o) I haven¹t yet tried Parallels yet, but will do so. Out of interest, what is this program? It can create very intricate and beautiful images. If you look at images of Flame Fractals¹ on Google, you will see what I mean. Thank you very much for your assistance! It is much appreciated. Pat Cheers Neil -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe
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And if you get it working, why not make it a Mac app using automator it¹s pretty easy (took me a couple of minutes): 1. Open automator 2. From the choose template dialogue choose ³application² 3. Drag the j-wildfire-launcher.jar file onto the workflow window 4. You will see that a ³get specified finder items² action has been added with the path to the launcher 5. From the ³Actions² library, select ³open finder items² and drag it onto the workflow window (below the get items action) 6. In the menubar choose File/save as and save the application into your ³applications² folder (or anywhere else you want it) with a suitable name (eg Wildfire). 7. Quit automator That¹s it go to your applications and double click ³Wildfire² and it should open the launcher. Then why not give it a better icon copy a suitable image plenty here http://www.andreas-maschke.com/?page_id=14 then do ³get info² on your new Wildfire app and select the icon and paste the image you just copied now your new app has an appropriate icon ;o) Well, I find it fun ;o) Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 3/6/14 19:25, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote: Hi Pat, This may or may not help you ;o) snip -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
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of the file the ability to execute it -- Or Something like this perhaps: - Open Terminal in the /Applications/Utilities/ folder and type in: chmod u+x followed by a space. Drag the file into the open Terminal window and press Enter. Controlling permissions to this extent is normally only needed by people who work under the hood and is therefore not an option in the Finder. I take absolutely NO responsibility at all if you decide to try either of the above Terminal Commands and something goes wrong. I would strongly suggest you get in touch with the developer who built the special script to find out how to run it. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 2 Jun 2014, at 1:35 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Re: Changing Get Info permissions Hi Pat, There are three specific permissions on Unix-like systems that apply to each class: Read Write Execute See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions So to run the file, read/write is not sufficient. However, I guess my questions would be: Do you really want to be running a program on your Mac from someone who can’t be bothered writing a proper Mac program? What do you know about this program/script – can it be trusted? Just my 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
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...@possumology.com on 2/6/14 16:32, Pat at clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi, Ronni and Neil, Thank you for the information and the cautions. Yes, I am cautious, but I trust the developer. It is another case of interesting software written for Windows and later, as an afterthought, ported to Mac. The forum shows a lot of other disappointed Mac users also have trouble. Unfortunately, Terminal didn’t fix the permission problems. I tried both methods of typing the path and dragging the files. Maybe I will have to fire up Parallels again, sigh. Thanks! Pat On 2 Jun 2014, at 2:00 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Pat, As Neil has mentioned be very careful that you know what this Program/Script is and how safe it is. Not knowing what the program is or why you have to run this script, I hesitate to recommend anything. By the sound of what you have said, you would need to use Terminal to change the permissions on such a script. You need to set 'execute' on the file for it to allow you to run it. Something like this: - Open Terminal in the Applications/Utilities folder and type this: chmod u+x /path/to/file.command u is the owner of the file, +x adds 'execute', so u+x gives the owner of the file the ability to execute it -- Or Something like this perhaps: - Open Terminal in the /Applications/Utilities/ folder and type in: chmod u+x followed by a space. Drag the file into the open Terminal window and press Enter. Controlling permissions to this extent is normally only needed by people who work under the hood and is therefore not an option in the Finder. I take absolutely NO responsibility at all if you decide to try either of the above Terminal Commands and something goes wrong. I would strongly suggest you get in touch with the developer who built the special script to find out how to run it. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 2 Jun 2014, at 1:35 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Re: Changing Get Info permissions Hi Pat, There are three specific permissions on Unix-like systems that apply to each class: Read Write Execute See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions So to run the file, read/write is not sufficient. However, I guess my questions would be: Do you really want to be running a program on your Mac from someone who can’t be bothered writing a proper Mac program? What do you know about this program/script – can it be trusted? Just my 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
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Hi Pat, Glad you finally got it working. Obviously my automator app was different to yours because I opted to open j-wildfire-launcher.jar directly, not by invoking the start_mac.command. So, for me, my automator opened the launcher window the problem was that then pressing ³start² gave the errors as logged. After looking at your recipe, it occurred to me ³what happens if you just open j-wildfire.jar ?² and I found that just double-clicking that did, indeed, open the wildfire application which seemed to be working just fine the problem is the launcher readme says: PLEASE DO NOT START THE j-wildfire.jar DIRECTLY! If you start the j-wildfire.jar directly then JWildfire is started with default Java otions. In the most cases you cannot render large images with those settings because not enough memory is reserved at startup. So even if you have plenty of memory it can not be used for rendering this way. Additionally, the wrong settings may cause slower rendering. However, it also says: HOW THE LAUNCHER WORKS -- - It analyzes certain system settings to locate java runtimes on your system and automatically selects the most recent one. You can override the automatically selected version by selecting another entry in the listbox. If the scanner did not find a java runtime (probably on Macs as I have no way to test this) you can manually add it. You must do this only once, of course. The memory setting lets you specify the maximum amount of memory in megabytes to use. This memory amount is only allocated if required. But there is no way to allocate more memory than here specified if JWildfire is already running. I. e., you must choose this value wisely. Example: 6000 MB should work fine to render images in high-end quality for print. When I ran the launcher, it obviously found the Java runtime and I did set the memory to 6000MB it was just that hitting start didn¹t then launch wildfire. However, the fact that wildfire runs means it can find the Java runtime OK and the fact that if I open the launcher again, after changing the memory allocation, it shows the allocation that was set at the last opening presumably means that this setting is ³sticking² - however, since the ³start² process fails, I¹m not sure if this setting has been passed to the main wildfire app if I open it directly. Anyway, I think my launcher problem might be down to my outdated OSX/Java. Out of interest, I followed Ronni¹s terminal instructions to change the permissions on start_mac.command and then run it and it did, indeed run and opened the launcher but, as before, hitting ³start² just caused it to quit. The following was reported in terminal (on running the command and before hitting start): NRH-iMac27:j-wildfire-1.62 neil$ sh start_mac.command java.lang.NoSuchMethodException: java.util.prefs.MacOSXPreferences.WindowsRegOpenKey(int, [B, int) at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredMethod(Class.java:1973) at org.jwildfire.launcher.JDKScanner.clinit(Unknown Source) at org.jwildfire.launcher.Launcher.scanForJDKs(Unknown Source) at org.jwildfire.launcher.Launcher.init(Unknown Source) at org.jwildfire.launcher.Launcher$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dispatch(InvocationEvent.java:209) at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(EventQueue.java:715) at java.awt.EventQueue.access$400(EventQueue.java:82) at java.awt.EventQueue$2.run(EventQueue.java:676) at java.awt.EventQueue$2.run(EventQueue.java:674) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.security.AccessControlContext$1.doIntersectionPrivilege(AccessControlCont ext.java:86) at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:685) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(EventDispatchThread.java:2 96) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(EventDispatchThread.java:211) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:2 01) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:196) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:188) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:122) NRH-iMac27:j-wildfire-1.62 neil$ If debug is checked when ³start² is hit, the debug messages are also reported in terminal: java.lang.Exception: Return code was 1 - see below for details: at org.jwildfire.launcher.Launcher.launchApp(Unknown Source) at org.jwildfire.launcher.Launcher.launchAction(Unknown Source) at org.jwildfire.launcher.Launcher.access$100(Unknown Source) at org.jwildfire.launcher.Launcher$2.actionPerformed(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:2028) at javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:2351) at
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the chmod command? There were no error messages, it’s just that there were no visible changes in Get Info, and I couldn’t start the program. Alternatively, unless you really want to learn a lot more about terminal, permissions etc, then it may well be easier/safer to just try the Windows program in Parallels ;o) I haven’t yet tried Parallels yet, but will do so. Out of interest, what is this program? It can create very intricate and beautiful images. If you look at images of ‘Flame Fractals’ on Google, you will see what I mean. Thank you very much for your assistance! It is much appreciated. Pat Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 2/6/14 16:32, Pat at clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi, Ronni and Neil, Thank you for the information and the cautions. Yes, I am cautious, but I trust the developer. It is another case of interesting software written for Windows and later, as an afterthought, ported to Mac. The forum shows a lot of other disappointed Mac users also have trouble. Unfortunately, Terminal didn’t fix the permission problems. I tried both methods of typing the path and dragging the files. Maybe I will have to fire up Parallels again, sigh. Thanks! Pat On 2 Jun 2014, at 2:00 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Pat, As Neil has mentioned be very careful that you know what this Program/Script is and how safe it is. Not knowing what the program is or why you have to run this script, I hesitate to recommend anything. By the sound of what you have said, you would need to use Terminal to change the permissions on such a script. You need to set 'execute' on the file for it to allow you to run it. Something like this: - Open Terminal in the Applications/Utilities folder and type this: chmod u+x /path/to/file.command u is the owner of the file, +x adds 'execute', so u+x gives the owner of the file the ability to execute it -- Or Something like this perhaps: - Open Terminal in the /Applications/Utilities/ folder and type in: chmod u+x followed by a space. Drag the file into the open Terminal window and press Enter. Controlling permissions to this extent is normally only needed by people who work under the hood and is therefore not an option in the Finder. I take absolutely NO responsibility at all if you decide to try either of the above Terminal Commands and something goes wrong. I would strongly suggest you get in touch with the developer who built the special script to find out how to run it. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 2 Jun 2014, at 1:35 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Re: Changing Get Info permissions Hi Pat, There are three specific permissions on Unix-like systems that apply to each class: Read Write Execute See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions So to run the file, read/write is not sufficient. However, I guess my questions would be: Do you really want to be running a program on your Mac from someone who can’t be bothered writing a proper Mac program? What do you know about this program/script – can it be trusted? Just my 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
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Hi Pat, As Neil has mentioned be very careful that you know what this Program/Script is and how safe it is. Not knowing what the program is or why you have to run this script, I hesitate to recommend anything. By the sound of what you have said, you would need to use Terminal to change the permissions on such a script. You need to set 'execute' on the file for it to allow you to run it. Something like this: - Open Terminal in the Applications/Utilities folder and type this: chmod u+x /path/to/file.command u is the owner of the file, +x adds 'execute', so u+x gives the owner of the file the ability to execute it -- Or Something like this perhaps: - Open Terminal in the /Applications/Utilities/ folder and type in: chmod u+x followed by a space. Drag the file into the open Terminal window and press Enter. Controlling permissions to this extent is normally only needed by people who work under the hood and is therefore not an option in the Finder. I take absolutely NO responsibility at all if you decide to try either of the above Terminal Commands and something goes wrong. I would strongly suggest you get in touch with the developer who built the special script to find out how to run it. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 2 Jun 2014, at 1:35 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Hi Pat, There are three specific permissions on Unix-like systems that apply to each class: Read Write Execute See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions So to run the file, read/write is not sufficient. However, I guess my questions would be: Do you really want to be running a program on your Mac from someone who can’t be bothered writing a proper Mac program? What do you know about this program/script – can it be trusted? Just my 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 2/6/14 13:16, Pat at clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi, I downloaded a small graphics program which contains a special script for starting the program on the Mac. However, these messages appear when I click it: The file “start_mac.command” could not be executed because you do not have appropriate access privileges. To view or change access privileges, select the file in the Finder and choose File Get Info. The Get Info panel says that I do have read and write privileges. I tried restarting the computer, and searched WAMUG files using ‘Permissions’, ‘changing Permissions’ and ‘Get Info’ but found nothing appropriate. Get Info suggested that Terminal could be used to fix the problem, but I don’t know enough Unix to do that. Advice will be much appreciated. Pat -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
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Hi, Ronni and Neil, Thank you for the information and the cautions. Yes, I am cautious, but I trust the developer. It is another case of interesting software written for Windows and later, as an afterthought, ported to Mac. The forum shows a lot of other disappointed Mac users also have trouble. Unfortunately, Terminal didn’t fix the permission problems. I tried both methods of typing the path and dragging the files. Maybe I will have to fire up Parallels again, sigh. Thanks! Pat On 2 Jun 2014, at 2:00 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Pat, As Neil has mentioned be very careful that you know what this Program/Script is and how safe it is. Not knowing what the program is or why you have to run this script, I hesitate to recommend anything. By the sound of what you have said, you would need to use Terminal to change the permissions on such a script. You need to set 'execute' on the file for it to allow you to run it. Something like this: - Open Terminal in the Applications/Utilities folder and type this: chmod u+x /path/to/file.command u is the owner of the file, +x adds 'execute', so u+x gives the owner of the file the ability to execute it -- Or Something like this perhaps: - Open Terminal in the /Applications/Utilities/ folder and type in: chmod u+x followed by a space. Drag the file into the open Terminal window and press Enter. Controlling permissions to this extent is normally only needed by people who work under the hood and is therefore not an option in the Finder. I take absolutely NO responsibility at all if you decide to try either of the above Terminal Commands and something goes wrong. I would strongly suggest you get in touch with the developer who built the special script to find out how to run it. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 2 Jun 2014, at 1:35 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Hi Pat, There are three specific permissions on Unix-like systems that apply to each class: Read Write Execute See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions So to run the file, read/write is not sufficient. However, I guess my questions would be: Do you really want to be running a program on your Mac from someone who can’t be bothered writing a proper Mac program? What do you know about this program/script – can it be trusted? Just my 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 2/6/14 13:16, Pat at clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi, I downloaded a small graphics program which contains a special script for starting the program on the Mac. However, these messages appear when I click it: The file “start_mac.command” could not be executed because you do not have appropriate access privileges. To view or change access privileges, select the file in the Finder and choose File Get Info. The Get Info panel says that I do have read and write privileges. I tried restarting the computer, and searched WAMUG files using ‘Permissions’, ‘changing Permissions’ and ‘Get Info’ but found nothing appropriate. Get Info suggested that Terminal could be used to fix the problem, but I don’t know enough Unix to do that. Advice will be much appreciated. Pat -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
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Hi Pat, Does the Forum mention that you need Java installed for this application script to run? Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 2 Jun 2014, at 4:32 pm, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi, Ronni and Neil, Thank you for the information and the cautions. Yes, I am cautious, but I trust the developer. It is another case of interesting software written for Windows and later, as an afterthought, ported to Mac. The forum shows a lot of other disappointed Mac users also have trouble. Unfortunately, Terminal didn’t fix the permission problems. I tried both methods of typing the path and dragging the files. Maybe I will have to fire up Parallels again, sigh. Thanks! Pat On 2 Jun 2014, at 2:00 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Pat, As Neil has mentioned be very careful that you know what this Program/Script is and how safe it is. Not knowing what the program is or why you have to run this script, I hesitate to recommend anything. By the sound of what you have said, you would need to use Terminal to change the permissions on such a script. You need to set 'execute' on the file for it to allow you to run it. Something like this: - Open Terminal in the Applications/Utilities folder and type this: chmod u+x /path/to/file.command u is the owner of the file, +x adds 'execute', so u+x gives the owner of the file the ability to execute it -- Or Something like this perhaps: - Open Terminal in the /Applications/Utilities/ folder and type in: chmod u+x followed by a space. Drag the file into the open Terminal window and press Enter. Controlling permissions to this extent is normally only needed by people who work under the hood and is therefore not an option in the Finder. I take absolutely NO responsibility at all if you decide to try either of the above Terminal Commands and something goes wrong. I would strongly suggest you get in touch with the developer who built the special script to find out how to run it. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 2 Jun 2014, at 1:35 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Hi Pat, There are three specific permissions on Unix-like systems that apply to each class: Read Write Execute See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions So to run the file, read/write is not sufficient. However, I guess my questions would be: Do you really want to be running a program on your Mac from someone who can’t be bothered writing a proper Mac program? What do you know about this program/script – can it be trusted? Just my 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 2/6/14 13:16, Pat at clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi, I downloaded a small graphics program which contains a special script for starting the program on the Mac. However, these messages appear when I click it: The file “start_mac.command” could not be executed because you do not have appropriate access privileges. To view or change access privileges, select the file in the Finder and choose File Get Info. The Get Info panel says that I do have read and write privileges. I tried restarting the computer, and searched WAMUG files using ‘Permissions’, ‘changing Permissions’ and ‘Get Info’ but found nothing appropriate. Get Info suggested that Terminal could be used to fix the problem, but I don’t know enough Unix to do that. Advice will be much appreciated. Pat -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Changing Get Info permissions
Yes. I have set it to ‘ask’. Pat On 2 Jun 2014, at 5:09 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Pat, Does the Forum mention that you need Java installed for this application script to run? Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 2 Jun 2014, at 4:32 pm, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi, Ronni and Neil, Thank you for the information and the cautions. Yes, I am cautious, but I trust the developer. It is another case of interesting software written for Windows and later, as an afterthought, ported to Mac. The forum shows a lot of other disappointed Mac users also have trouble. Unfortunately, Terminal didn’t fix the permission problems. I tried both methods of typing the path and dragging the files. Maybe I will have to fire up Parallels again, sigh. Thanks! Pat On 2 Jun 2014, at 2:00 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Pat, As Neil has mentioned be very careful that you know what this Program/Script is and how safe it is. Not knowing what the program is or why you have to run this script, I hesitate to recommend anything. By the sound of what you have said, you would need to use Terminal to change the permissions on such a script. You need to set 'execute' on the file for it to allow you to run it. Something like this: - Open Terminal in the Applications/Utilities folder and type this: chmod u+x /path/to/file.command u is the owner of the file, +x adds 'execute', so u+x gives the owner of the file the ability to execute it -- Or Something like this perhaps: - Open Terminal in the /Applications/Utilities/ folder and type in: chmod u+x followed by a space. Drag the file into the open Terminal window and press Enter. Controlling permissions to this extent is normally only needed by people who work under the hood and is therefore not an option in the Finder. I take absolutely NO responsibility at all if you decide to try either of the above Terminal Commands and something goes wrong. I would strongly suggest you get in touch with the developer who built the special script to find out how to run it. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 2 Jun 2014, at 1:35 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Hi Pat, There are three specific permissions on Unix-like systems that apply to each class: Read Write Execute See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions So to run the file, read/write is not sufficient. However, I guess my questions would be: Do you really want to be running a program on your Mac from someone who can’t be bothered writing a proper Mac program? What do you know about this program/script – can it be trusted? Just my 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 2/6/14 13:16, Pat at clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi, I downloaded a small graphics program which contains a special script for starting the program on the Mac. However, these messages appear when I click it: The file “start_mac.command” could not be executed because you do not have appropriate access privileges. To view or change access privileges, select the file in the Finder and choose File Get Info. The Get Info panel says that I do have read and write privileges. I tried restarting the computer, and searched WAMUG files using ‘Permissions’, ‘changing Permissions’ and ‘Get Info’ but found nothing appropriate. Get Info suggested that Terminal could be used to fix the problem, but I don’t know enough Unix to do that. Advice will be much appreciated. Pat -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe -
Re: Changing Get Info permissions
Hi Pat, As Ronni says, I take no responsibility for what you do running terminal commands typos can do real damage! According to this page http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/24262/what-is-the-difference-betwe en-command-tool-and-sh-file-extensions * .command - (Terminal shell script) Specifically associates a shell script with Terminal. Sometimes referred to as a Terminal File. So: * Have you checked in the ³get info² for the file that it is set to ³open with² terminal * Have you checked that you successfully changed the permissions to give yourself execute permission (use the ³ls l² command to check the actual permissions of the .command file tell us what it says. * When you say ³Terminal didn¹t fix the permission problems² did you get some error message in terminal when running the chmod command? Alternatively, unless you really want to learn a lot more about terminal, permissions etc, then it may well be easier/safer to just try the Windows program in Parallels ;o) Out of interest, what is this program? Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 2/6/14 16:32, Pat at clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi, Ronni and Neil, Thank you for the information and the cautions. Yes, I am cautious, but I trust the developer. It is another case of interesting software written for Windows and later, as an afterthought, ported to Mac. The forum shows a lot of other disappointed Mac users also have trouble. Unfortunately, Terminal didn¹t fix the permission problems. I tried both methods of typing the path and dragging the files. Maybe I will have to fire up Parallels again, sigh. Thanks! Pat On 2 Jun 2014, at 2:00 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Pat, As Neil has mentioned be very careful that you know what this Program/Script is and how safe it is. Not knowing what the program is or why you have to run this script, I hesitate to recommend anything. By the sound of what you have said, you would need to use Terminal to change the permissions on such a script. You need to set 'execute' on the file for it to allow you to run it. Something like this: - Open Terminal in the Applications/Utilities folder and type this: chmod u+x /path/to/file.command u is the owner of the file, +x adds 'execute', so u+x gives the owner of the file the ability to execute it -- Or Something like this perhaps: - Open Terminal in the /Applications/Utilities/ folder and type in: chmod u+x followed by a space. Drag the file into the open Terminal window and press Enter. Controlling permissions to this extent is normally only needed by people who work under the hood and is therefore not an option in the Finder. I take absolutely NO responsibility at all if you decide to try either of the above Terminal Commands and something goes wrong. I would strongly suggest you get in touch with the developer who built the special script to find out how to run it. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 2 Jun 2014, at 1:35 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Re: Changing Get Info permissions Hi Pat, There are three specific permissions on Unix-like systems that apply to each class: * Read * Write * Execute See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions So to run the file, read/write is not sufficient. However, I guess my questions would be: 1. Do you really want to be running a program on your Mac from someone who can¹t be bothered writing a proper Mac program? 2. What do you know about this program/script can it be trusted? Just my 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Changing Get Info permissions
Hi, I downloaded a small graphics program which contains a special script for starting the program on the Mac. However, these messages appear when I click it: The file “start_mac.command” could not be executed because you do not have appropriate access privileges. To view or change access privileges, select the file in the Finder and choose File Get Info. The Get Info panel says that I do have read and write privileges. I tried restarting the computer, and searched WAMUG files using ‘Permissions’, ‘changing Permissions’ and ‘Get Info’ but found nothing appropriate. Get Info suggested that Terminal could be used to fix the problem, but I don’t know enough Unix to do that. Advice will be much appreciated. Pat -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Changing Get Info permissions
Hi Pat, There are three specific permissions on Unix-like systems that apply to each class: * Read * Write * Execute See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions So to run the file, read/write is not sufficient. However, I guess my questions would be: 1. Do you really want to be running a program on your Mac from someone who can¹t be bothered writing a proper Mac program? 2. What do you know about this program/script can it be trusted? Just my 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 2/6/14 13:16, Pat at clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi, I downloaded a small graphics program which contains a special script for starting the program on the Mac. However, these messages appear when I click it: The file ³start_mac.command² could not be executed because you do not have appropriate access privileges. To view or change access privileges, select the file in the Finder and choose File Get Info. The Get Info panel says that I do have read and write privileges. I tried restarting the computer, and searched WAMUG files using Permissions¹, changing Permissions¹ and Get Info¹ but found nothing appropriate. Get Info suggested that Terminal could be used to fix the problem, but I don¹t know enough Unix to do that. Advice will be much appreciated. Pat -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
