Re: Emails not getting through...

2003-06-21 Thread Onno Benschop
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 00:50, Onno Benschop wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 22:58, Matthew Healey wrote:
  Hi All..
  
  For those of you having problems, I have some news. Yahoo, in their 
  infinite stupidity, have gotten themselves listed by SpamCop again. 
  SpamCop is a service which generally causes more problems that it is 
  worth.
 
 Well, AFAIK SpamCop doesn't actually run any black-list.

I was wrong - actually, they do:
http://spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/290.html

As a disclaimer, I did try to look at the spamcop site last night, but
it wasn't working for me. This morning I checked again...

Of course, SpamCop doesn't actually filter any mail, your ISP does.

Regards,


Onno Benschop 

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Re: Emails not getting through...

2003-06-21 Thread Andrew Nielsen

At 22:58 +0800 20/6/03, Matthew Healey wrote:

Anyone not receiving this email should contact their ISP and enquire
about getting SpamCop turned off for them.


We use SpamCop's DNS blacklist to assess incoming mail on our server 
and WAMUG messages appear to be arriving here uninterrupted.

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Re: Emails not getting through...

2003-06-21 Thread Matthew Healey


On Saturday, June 21, 2003, at 10:29 AM, Andrew Nielsen wrote:


At 22:58 +0800 20/6/03, Matthew Healey wrote:

Anyone not receiving this email should contact their ISP and enquire
about getting SpamCop turned off for them.


We use SpamCop's DNS blacklist to assess incoming mail on our server
and WAMUG messages appear to be arriving here uninterrupted.


Interesting... I wonder what it could be then. Here is one of the 
bounce messages from Yahoo, for Peter.


Remote host said: 550 Email Rejected: Your mail server has been listed 
as an open

relay See http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=66.218.66.93

- Matt

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Emails not getting through...

2003-06-20 Thread Matthew Healey

Hi All..

For those of you having problems, I have some news. Yahoo, in their 
infinite stupidity, have gotten themselves listed by SpamCop again. 
SpamCop is a service which generally causes more problems that it is 
worth.


Anyone not receiving this email should contact their ISP and enquire 
about getting SpamCop turned off for them.


(Now we should be able to see who's awake at least!)

- Matt

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Re: Emails not getting through...

2003-06-20 Thread Brad Helden
Thanks Matt. That explains a lot. I've been going crazy trying to 
figure out what's been going on. Only today did I start to receive 
WAMUG email again.


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Re: Emails not getting through...

2003-06-20 Thread Onno Benschop
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 22:58, Matthew Healey wrote:
 Hi All..
 
 For those of you having problems, I have some news. Yahoo, in their 
 infinite stupidity, have gotten themselves listed by SpamCop again. 
 SpamCop is a service which generally causes more problems that it is 
 worth.

Well, AFAIK SpamCop doesn't actually run any black-list. They have an
automated process that allows you to notify network administrators that
SPAM is coming from their network. They do this free of charge.

In addition to that, they offer a filtered mailbox, which you can pay
for, and you can deck out your whole organisation with filtered mail
boxes if you like.

So, I'm not quite sure how Yahoo [..] have gotten themselves listed by
SpamCop.

I use SpamCop almost daily, enjoy their service and have seriously been
considering providing them with a donation. I'm not sure about paying
for a mailbox service, because morally, I'm not quite convinced I should
pay to stop email that is coming to me unsolicited, but I'm willing to
consider a compromise where I help some talented programmers write cool
mail-parsing software.

On a side note, any ISP that condones SPAM needs to feel the brunt of
public opinion - including Yahoo. If that means that Yahoo gets stomped
on the toes, then I can't see too much wrong with that.

Finally, an ISP can decide on their own if they pre-filter SPAM based on
black-listing. If you don't like their pre-filter, then why not change
ISP?

There was a time when I disliked my ISP's decision to not filter SPAM,
but now I understand and even agree. I can filter SPAM all by myself.
However, I'd be very upset if my ISP got notification that a SPAMMER was
operating on their network and they did nothing about it - but I'm
pretty sure that's not the case...

Regards,


Onno Benschop 

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