Re: Anti virus software

2018-04-17 Thread Stephen Chape
Hi Marcus.

Perhaps Intego protection is a “Placebo”. Or perhaps it works !
At the very least I feel more secure by using it.
Consequently I worry less.

In the same way that my home is very secure with good locks (using keys) and 
security grills.
And a monitored alarm system.

So far I have NOT been burgled.
Is that because of my security diligence?
Or am I just lucky ?
I don’t know … but so far I feel good about it.

> On 17 Apr 2018, at 2:26 pm, Marcus Harris  wrote:
> 
> Well, this is interesting as I haven’t used antivirus since buying my first 
> Apple Mac in 1986. 
> I thought the regular security updates from Apple were enough.
> Presumably if one wasn’t SPAM aware a virus or similar could corrupt the 
> system, otherwise do we really need AV?
> Marcus
> 
> Marcus Harris 74 iPhone7
> 
> On 17 Apr 2018, at 1:43 pm, Stephen Chape  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jennifer
>> 
>> I have used Intego Virus Barrier and Net Barrier for many years.
>> As far as I am aware the only one made specifically for Mac.
>> Doesn’t have any noticeable effect on performance either.
>> I believe all the others are offshoots of Windows software.
>> 
>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 10:02 am, Jennifer Lefroy >> > wrote:
>>> 
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Re: Anti virus software

2018-04-17 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi , Jennifer, Stephen, and Marcus,

If you are running the current versions of macOS and keep your systems updated 
with Apple software updates and security updates, and sensible with NOT 
clicking on links in emails, going to suspect websites, downloading movies etc 
from illicit websites.
In my opinion you don’t need Anti-Virus software.

Before is an extract I copied awhile ago from MacWorld UK but unfortunately I 
didn’t copy the link.
How Apple protects your Mac from malware

Apple goes to great lengths to protect you from malware by making it almost 
impossible for you to download it in the first place. The company has built 
anti-malware protection into macOS. For example, before you can open a file, 
your Mac will check it against a list of malware, and even if there is no 
reason for concern it will not allow you to open an application from a 
developer that it hasn’t already approved.

The Mac's malware scanning tool, Xprotect, works invisibly and automatically in 
the background and requires no user configuration. Apple has a list of 
malicious applications that it checks against when you open downloaded 
applications. Updates happen invisibly too. This is similar to having antivirus 
software from another software developer running on your Mac, with the bonus of 
being written into the operating system and therefore it doesn't hamper the 
speed of your Mac.

If you download and try to open files contaminated with malware, you may see an 
explicit warning that the files will "damage your computer", along with a 
reference to type of malware. You should delete the file immediately.

In addition, macOS blocks downloaded software that hasn't been digitally signed 
- a process in which Apple approves the developer. This leads to the familiar 
error message when you try to use or install unsigned software: "[this app] 
can't be opened because it is from an unidentified developer."

The system at work here is called Gatekeeper and can be controlled via the 
Security & Privacy section of System Preferences - in Security & Privacy select 
the General tab and choose from the options underneath Allow Applications 
Downloaded From. The options include App Store or App Store and Identified 
Developers.

There used to be an option to disable the feature by choosing 'Anywhere' but 
this option is no longer available. This doesn't mean you can't open apps that 
haven't been approved by Apple though - it just means that you will have to 
tweak some settings in order to do so. (Here's how to open an app from an 
unidentified developer).

Setting this option to App Store and Identified Developers is the best plan. 
All software downloaded via the App Store is signed, so you'll only see 
Gatekeeper warnings with a minority of apps you've downloaded manually. You can 
bypass its protection when needed - assuming you're sure an app or installation 
package is safe, just hold down Ctrl, then click it and select Open. This will 
mark it as being trusted.

Software that is approved by Apple is also Sandboxed, which means apps do only 
what they’re intended to do. App sandboxing isolates apps from the critical 
system components of your Mac, your data and your other apps, so they shouldn't 
be able to access anything that could allow them to do any damage.

There's also anti-phishing technology in Safari that will detect fraudulent 
websites. It will disable the page and display an alert warning you if you 
visit a suspect website.

You'll also notice that plug-ins such as Adobe Flash Player, Silverlight, 
QuickTime and Oracle Java won't run if they aren't updated to the latest 
version - another way of ensuring your Mac is safe.

In addition to Gatekeeper, which should keep malware off your Mac, FileVault 2 
makes sure your data is safe and secure by encrypting it. 

How Apple responds to security threats

Despite the security measures Apple has in place, from time-to-time there are 
threats to the Mac.

Apple has its own security research team, but it depends on users and 
independent researchers to help by reporting any flaws they find in Apple 
products.

To this end, Apple has an incentive program that rewards such discoveries with 
payments of up to $200,000, depending on the seriousness of the flaw. But it 
was the last major tech company to set up such a scheme. (Microsoft set up its 
own bug-reporting incentive programme in 2013, and was itself criticised at the 
time for leaving it so late.)

On 4 August 2016, Apple security boss Ivan Krstic announced the Apple Security 
Bounty Program. "We've had great help from researchers in improving iOS 
security all along," Krstic said. "[But] we've heard pretty consistently... 
that it's getting increasingly difficult to find some of those most critical 
types of security vulnerabilities. So the Apple Security Bounty Program is 
going to reward researchers who actually share critical vulnerabilities with 
Apple."

Re: Anti virus software

2018-04-17 Thread Marcus Harris
Well, this is interesting as I haven’t used antivirus since buying my first 
Apple Mac in 1986. 
I thought the regular security updates from Apple were enough.
Presumably if one wasn’t SPAM aware a virus or similar could corrupt the 
system, otherwise do we really need AV?
Marcus

Marcus Harris 74 iPhone7

> On 17 Apr 2018, at 1:43 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jennifer
> 
> I have used Intego Virus Barrier and Net Barrier for many years.
> As far as I am aware the only one made specifically for Mac.
> Doesn’t have any noticeable effect on performance either.
> I believe all the others are offshoots of Windows software.
> 
>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 10:02 am, Jennifer Lefroy  
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>> 
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Re: Anti virus software

2018-04-16 Thread Stephen Chape
Hi Jennifer

I have used Intego Virus Barrier and Net Barrier for many years.
As far as I am aware the only one made specifically for Mac.
Doesn’t have any noticeable effect on performance either.
I believe all the others are offshoots of Windows software.

> On 17 Apr 2018, at 10:02 am, Jennifer Lefroy  
> wrote:
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Anti virus software

2018-04-16 Thread Jennifer Lefroy
I was told by mu server - Zettanet - that I should have antivirus software
installed.  What is the latest recommendation, please/

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Re: free anti-virus software

2012-08-21 Thread Stuart Breden
I have never used any antivirus software in my Apple OS.  Use it though in 
Window in VMWare Fusion.

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On 20/08/2012, at 1:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Walter,
 
 The best anti virus for your MAC is your MAC OS.
 There are no known viruses for MAC.  Trojans and malware are not viruses.
 Follow the safe browsing rules so you won't have to worry about viruses, 
 trojans and malware.
 
 All real-time antivirus products slow down your computer, that is the nature 
 of the game. 
 So Sophos will slow down your computer.
 Norton software tends to always be bloated and not really that great to begin 
 with, so I would leave iAntiVirus alone.
 
 If you feel you require Antivirus program on your Mac ClamXav 2.3.2 is highly 
 recommended and Free. 
 But DON'T download the App Store version, download from this link.
 http://www.clamxav.com/download.php#
 
 What are the differences between the version of ClamXav available to download 
 here and the version on the Mac App Store?
 
   • The App Store version doesn't contain ClamXav Sentry, so it is not 
 able to watch your computer for new files and scan them as they arrive.
   • There is no engine installation phase as the App Store requirements 
 stipulate that everything must be self-contained within the app.
   • Virus definition updates are downloaded on a per-user basis.
   • Updates to the ClamXav app itself are taken care of via the Mac App 
 Store.
   • Mac OS X 10.6 or greater is required.
   
 So to answer your Question:
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 It is your choice really, if having virus protection on your Mac is going to 
 make you feel safer (more protected) go ahead.
 Personally I don't feel they are worth having.
 
 And Yes, they will run on your iMac running 10.6.8, just make sure you 
 download the version compatible with OS X 10.6.8
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 20/08/2012, at 12:07 PM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs
 
 1. iAntiVirus by Norton
 2. Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac
 
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Walter
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Re: free anti-virus software

2012-08-20 Thread F.W. Hänel
Hi Ronni and Severin,

Thanks for your replies.

Ronni, I'll follow your advice and leave things as they are as I am not having 
any problems.
However, I am keeping your comments for future reference.

Thanks again,

Walter


On 20.08.2012, at 13:00, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Walter,
 
 The best anti virus for your MAC is your MAC OS.
 There are no known viruses for MAC.  Trojans and malware are not viruses.
 Follow the safe browsing rules so you won't have to worry about viruses, 
 trojans and malware.
 
 All real-time antivirus products slow down your computer, that is the nature 
 of the game. 
 So Sophos will slow down your computer.
 Norton software tends to always be bloated and not really that great to begin 
 with, so I would leave iAntiVirus alone.
 
 If you feel you require Antivirus program on your Mac ClamXav 2.3.2 is highly 
 recommended and Free. 
 But DON'T download the App Store version, download from this link.
 http://www.clamxav.com/download.php#
 
 What are the differences between the version of ClamXav available to download 
 here and the version on the Mac App Store?
 
   • The App Store version doesn't contain ClamXav Sentry, so it is not 
 able to watch your computer for new files and scan them as they arrive.
   • There is no engine installation phase as the App Store requirements 
 stipulate that everything must be self-contained within the app.
   • Virus definition updates are downloaded on a per-user basis.
   • Updates to the ClamXav app itself are taken care of via the Mac App 
 Store.
   • Mac OS X 10.6 or greater is required.
   
 So to answer your Question:
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 It is your choice really, if having virus protection on your Mac is going to 
 make you feel safer (more protected) go ahead.
 Personally I don't feel they are worth having.
 
 And Yes, they will run on your iMac running 10.6.8, just make sure you 
 download the version compatible with OS X 10.6.8
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 20/08/2012, at 12:07 PM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs
 
 1. iAntiVirus by Norton
 2. Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac
 
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Walter
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2012-08-19 Thread F . W . Hänel
Hi all,

I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs

1. iAntiVirus by Norton
2. Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac

Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?

Cheers,

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Re: free anti-virus software

2012-08-19 Thread Severin Crisp
For years I have used Intego Virus Barrier and give it a full thumbs up.  
After bad experiences, admittedly years ago, the name Norton is a real turn off 
for me.  
Severin Crisp 

On 20/08/2012, at 12:07 PM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs
 
 1. iAntiVirus by Norton
 2. Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac
 
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Walter
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Re: free anti-virus software

2012-08-19 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Walter,

The best anti virus for your MAC is your MAC OS.
There are no known viruses for MAC.  Trojans and malware are not viruses.
Follow the safe browsing rules so you won't have to worry about viruses, 
trojans and malware.

All real-time antivirus products slow down your computer, that is the nature of 
the game. 
So Sophos will slow down your computer.
Norton software tends to always be bloated and not really that great to begin 
with, so I would leave iAntiVirus alone.

If you feel you require Antivirus program on your Mac ClamXav 2.3.2 is highly 
recommended and Free. 
But DON'T download the App Store version, download from this link.
http://www.clamxav.com/download.php#

What are the differences between the version of ClamXav available to download 
here and the version on the Mac App Store?

• The App Store version doesn't contain ClamXav Sentry, so it is not 
able to watch your computer for new files and scan them as they arrive.
• There is no engine installation phase as the App Store requirements 
stipulate that everything must be self-contained within the app.
• Virus definition updates are downloaded on a per-user basis.
• Updates to the ClamXav app itself are taken care of via the Mac App 
Store.
• Mac OS X 10.6 or greater is required.

So to answer your Question:
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?

It is your choice really, if having virus protection on your Mac is going to 
make you feel safer (more protected) go ahead.
Personally I don't feel they are worth having.

And Yes, they will run on your iMac running 10.6.8, just make sure you download 
the version compatible with OS X 10.6.8

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/08/2012, at 12:07 PM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs
 
 1. iAntiVirus by Norton
 2. Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac
 
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Walter
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Re: free anti-virus software

2012-08-19 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Severin,

Walter asked about 'Free' Anti-Virus software.  Intego VirusBarrier is not free 
is it? 
I understood you have to purchase Intego VirusBarrier  pay yearly, 2yrly or 
3yrly  for protection.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/08/2012, at 12:51 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 For years I have used Intego Virus Barrier and give it a full thumbs up.  
 After bad experiences, admittedly years ago, the name Norton is a real turn 
 off for me.  
 Severin Crisp 
 
 On 20/08/2012, at 12:07 PM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs
 
 1. iAntiVirus by Norton
 2. Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac
 
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Walter

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Re: free anti-virus software

2012-08-19 Thread Severin Crisp
That is correct, I can not recall the amount but it is not excessive.  
I have used it for many years now with nary a glitch,and an occasional 
detection of something nasty to let me know it is (probably!) working.  It used 
to have a cousin called Net Barrier but this is now rolled in with Virus 
Barrier to make a complete package.  It can be licensed for more than one 
computer, as I have done.  
I agree, the built in OS protection is probably more than sufficient but with 
this my sleep at night is doubly assured!  
Severin


On 20/08/2012, at 1:16 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Severin,
 
 Walter asked about 'Free' Anti-Virus software.  Intego VirusBarrier is not 
 free is it? 
 I understood you have to purchase Intego VirusBarrier  pay yearly, 2yrly or 
 3yrly  for protection.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 20/08/2012, at 12:51 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 For years I have used Intego Virus Barrier and give it a full thumbs up.  
 After bad experiences, admittedly years ago, the name Norton is a real turn 
 off for me.  
 Severin Crisp 
 
 On 20/08/2012, at 12:07 PM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs
 
 1. iAntiVirus by Norton
 2. Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac
 
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Walter
 
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Anti Virus Software

2009-11-01 Thread Barry Sexstone


Dear All

What is the current recommendation for anti virus programs for Snow  
Leopard?
My update subscription to X5 expired just prior to updating to SL and  
I have not renewed as I would like advice from all the experts.


Thanks

Barry


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Re: Anti Virus Software

2009-11-01 Thread Peter Hinchliffe



On 01/11/2009, at 7:26 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



Dear All

What is the current recommendation for anti virus programs for Snow  
Leopard?
My update subscription to X5 expired just prior to updating to SL  
and I have not renewed as I would like advice from all the experts.


Thanks

Barry



Did your previous subscription ever report the presence and capture of  
any Mac viruses? I didn't think so, because they don't exist in any  
real sense. X5 was just sitting there doing nothing useful and  
consuming processor resources that could have been used for something  
else. There may come a time when software like this might become  
necessary on a Mac, but it hasn't arrived yet.


Save your money.

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Re: Anti Virus Software

2009-11-01 Thread Rob Findlay


Clam AV X is donation-ware and the latest beta build is Snow Leopard  
compatible.
Even though there may not be danger in the wild for Macs yet it's  
sometimes good to know that attachments you receive and possibly pass  
on don't have nasty surprises.

Clam does just fine at that.

On 02/11/2009, at 8:30 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:




On 01/11/2009, at 7:26 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



Dear All

What is the current recommendation for anti virus programs for Snow  
Leopard?
My update subscription to X5 expired just prior to updating to SL  
and I have not renewed as I would like advice from all the experts.


Thanks

Barry



Did your previous subscription ever report the presence and capture  
of any Mac viruses? I didn't think so, because they don't exist in  
any real sense. X5 was just sitting there doing nothing useful and  
consuming processor resources that could have been used for  
something else. There may come a time when software like this might  
become necessary on a Mac, but it hasn't arrived yet.


Save your money.

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Perth, Western Australia
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Re: Anti Virus Software

2009-11-01 Thread James / Hans Kunz

i agree with Peter
my powerbook is on the net for the last 5 years...no virus  
protection at all  still working

James

On 02/11/2009, at 8:30, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:




On 01/11/2009, at 7:26 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



Dear All

What is the current recommendation for anti virus programs for  
Snow Leopard?
My update subscription to X5 expired just prior to updating to SL  
and I have not renewed as I would like advice from all the experts.


Thanks

Barry



Did your previous subscription ever report the presence and capture  
of any Mac viruses? I didn't think so, because they don't exist in  
any real sense. X5 was just sitting there doing nothing useful and  
consuming processor resources that could have been used for  
something else. There may come a time when software like this might  
become necessary on a Mac, but it hasn't arrived yet.


Save your money.

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Re: Anti Virus Software

2009-11-01 Thread James / Hans Kunz

i just remembered this:


  The Secunia Weekly Advisory Summary
2009-10-22 - 2009-10-29

   This week: 69 advisories


Table of Contents:

1.Word From Secunia
2This Week In Brief
3...This Weeks Top Ten Most Read Advisories
4..This Week in Numbers


1) Word From Secunia:

Blog: Secunia CSI 3.0 - Final

The Public Beta of the Secunia Corporate Software Inspector (CSI) 3.0
has ended in accordance with our previously announced release schedule,
and the final version of the Secunia CSI 3.0 is now available for
download.

A huge thanks goes out to the over 3,000 people who participated in the
Secunia CSI 3.0 Public Beta, which compared to last year is extremely
great, the public beta of the previous version had 1,600 participants.

Read More:
http://secunia.com/blog/65/



subscribe to this  it's free  keep watching viruses  James



On 02/11/2009, at 9:04, Rob Findlay wrote:



Clam AV X is donation-ware and the latest beta build is Snow  
Leopard compatible.
Even though there may not be danger in the wild for Macs yet it's  
sometimes good to know that attachments you receive and possibly  
pass on don't have nasty surprises.

Clam does just fine at that.




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Re: Anti Virus Software

2005-08-09 Thread Onno Benschop

Shay Telfer wrote:

ClamXAv will not remove viruses (it just detects them), whereas Virex 
will attempt to do so in most cases.


It should be pointed out that ClamAV (and the MacOSX and Windows 
versions) don't remove detected virus occurrences for a reason. Their 
FAQ states:


   Can ClamAV disinfect files?

   No, it can't. We will add support for disinfecting OLE2 files in one
   of the next stable releases. There are no plans for disinfecting
   other types of files. There are many reasons for it: cleaning
   viruses from files is virtually pointless these days. It is very
   seldom that there is anything useful left after cleaning, and even
   if there is, would you trust it?


So, while you might choose Virex because it removes infestations, you 
should think about what is happening underneath the hood.



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Re: Anti Virus Software

2005-08-09 Thread Rob Davies


On 08/08/2005, at 9:20 PM, Shay Telfer wrote:


Hi folks,

I know this must sound a bit paranoid  but  well  you  
just never know.
I have Virex installed but my .Mac membership expired about 3  
months ago.

I don't think the updates work any more because of this ??
Is this correct ? I can't see any way of actually checking.

I noticed someone recently recommending ClamXav.
I have downloaded it but have not yet installed it.
Would this be a good replacement for Virex ?
Or (if Virex still woks) a I better off staying with Virex ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape



ClamXAv will not remove viruses (it just detects them), whereas  
Virex will attempt to do so in most cases.


But it does give the user an option of automatically removing virus  
into a quarantine folder. So, as to do with as you wish, following  
means of destruction according to virusDB, but it will no longer be  
active.


A reason for ClamXav over others besides cost factor, is it's actual  
virusDB, update procedures, and response time to new outbreaks, check  
the website. http://www.clamav.net


Do not install on Mac OS X server.

Be careful when setting check .mbox do not set with quarantine folder  
active.


Documented in ClamXav. http://www.clamxav.com

I do not let it scan .mbox as I have quarantine active; if I suspect  
an .mbox. I make a copy of said .mbox and drop this into ClamXav. If  
it finds something I can go and remove suspect file without damaging  
the .mbox, and have to spend hours repairing .mbox.



Cheers!
`Rob...



Re: Anti Virus Software

2005-08-09 Thread Shay Telfer

Shay Telfer wrote:

ClamXAv will not remove viruses (it just detects them), whereas 
Virex will attempt to do so in most cases.


It should be pointed out that ClamAV (and the MacOSX and Windows 
versions) don't remove detected virus occurrences for a reason. 
Their FAQ states:


   Can ClamAV disinfect files?

   No, it can't. We will add support for disinfecting OLE2 files in one
   of the next stable releases. There are no plans for disinfecting
   other types of files. There are many reasons for it: cleaning
   viruses from files is virtually pointless these days. It is very
   seldom that there is anything useful left after cleaning, and even
   if there is, would you trust it?

So, while you might choose Virex because it removes infestations, 
you should think about what is happening underneath the hood.


I do, and Virex quite happily removes *most* Word macro viruses on 
the Mac, which is good because

* They're pretty much all the viruses that are on the Mac.
* The Word documents are usually what users care about the most.

Do I trust it? As much as I trust ClamAV, even if I can't look at the 
Virex source.


Have fun,
Shay
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Re: Anti Virus Software

2005-08-08 Thread Shay Telfer

Hi folks,

I know this must sound a bit paranoid  but  well  you 
just never know.

I have Virex installed but my .Mac membership expired about 3 months ago.
I don't think the updates work any more because of this ??
Is this correct ? I can't see any way of actually checking.

I noticed someone recently recommending ClamXav.
I have downloaded it but have not yet installed it.
Would this be a good replacement for Virex ?
Or (if Virex still woks) a I better off staying with Virex ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape


ClamXAv will not remove viruses (it just detects them), whereas Virex 
will attempt to do so in most cases.


Have fun,
Shay
--
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 Perth, Western Australia   Technomancer  Join Team Sungroper in the
 Opinions for hire  [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge
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Re: Anti Virus Software

2005-08-07 Thread subscribe

Hello Steven,

i have recently moved over to ClamAV and found it to work well and to 
be a fine replacement for products like virex, there was recently a 
problem found with part of ClamAV  that caused Multiple Integer 
Overflow Vulnerabilities however this has been patched - 
http://secunia.com/advisories/16250/


overall i'm pretty happy with ClamAV, one of my primary reasons for 
moving to it  apart from cost was the rumourmill from sophos regarding 
viri for OS X
 it would appear that they dont know a virus from a root exploit, which 
concerns me. Also the ClamAV developers have proved that they are on 
top of problems that occur with ClamAV and are proactive with there 
fixes


cheers

Natas
On 06/08/2005, at 9:42 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:


Hi folks,

I know this must sound a bit paranoid  but  well  you just 
never know.
I have Virex installed but my .Mac membership expired about 3 months 
ago.

I don't think the updates work any more because of this ??
Is this correct ? I can't see any way of actually checking.

I noticed someone recently recommending ClamXav.
I have downloaded it but have not yet installed it.
Would this be a good replacement for Virex ?
Or (if Virex still woks) a I better off staying with Virex ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape


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Fwd: Anti Virus Software (Something Found)

2005-08-07 Thread Adam Lippiatt

Hi

I downloaded and used this software and found (amongst other things) a:

Worm.Bagle.Gen-zippwd

in my mbox file in the inbox.

Does anyone know what the mbox file is and is it safe to remove it  
(it seems to appear in most other mailboxes)?


Thanks

Adam

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To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: Anti Virus Software


Hello Steven,

i have recently moved over to ClamAV and found it to work well and  
to be a fine replacement for products like virex, there was  
recently a problem found with part of ClamAV  that caused Multiple  
Integer Overflow Vulnerabilities however this has been patched -  
http://secunia.com/advisories/16250/


overall i'm pretty happy with ClamAV, one of my primary reasons for  
moving to it  apart from cost was the rumourmill from sophos  
regarding viri for OS X
 it would appear that they dont know a virus from a root exploit,  
which concerns me. Also the ClamAV developers have proved that they  
are on top of problems that occur with ClamAV and are proactive  
with there fixes


cheers

Natas
On 06/08/2005, at 9:42 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:



Hi folks,

I know this must sound a bit paranoid  but  well  you  
just never know.
I have Virex installed but my .Mac membership expired about 3  
months ago.

I don't think the updates work any more because of this ??
Is this correct ? I can't see any way of actually checking.

I noticed someone recently recommending ClamXav.
I have downloaded it but have not yet installed it.
Would this be a good replacement for Virex ?
Or (if Virex still woks) a I better off staying with Virex ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape


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Re: Fwd: Anti Virus Software (Something Found)

2005-08-07 Thread Onno Benschop

Adam Lippiatt wrote:


Hi

I downloaded and used this software and found (amongst other things) a:

Worm.Bagle.Gen-zippwd

in my mbox file in the inbox.

Does anyone know what the mbox file is and is it safe to remove it  
(it seems to appear in most other mailboxes)?


Thanks

Adam

The file is likely part of an email attachment inside your mail folder. 
You should not delete the mbox because it contains all your mail in that 
folder. A smarter solution is to create a new mail folder, move the 
message to there, then purge your mail folders, then scan again. The 
attachment will now have moved to another file which only has that one 
message inside it.


I should also point out that having a windows virus sitting inside an 
email file won't actually do anything until you save it and open it 
inside Windows, either by transferring it to a Windows machine, or by 
launching a Windows emulator.


In short, you really don't need to worry too much about this particular one.

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Anti Virus Software

2005-08-06 Thread Stephen Chape

Hi folks,

I know this must sound a bit paranoid  but  well  you  
just never know.
I have Virex installed but my .Mac membership expired about 3 months  
ago.

I don't think the updates work any more because of this ??
Is this correct ? I can't see any way of actually checking.

I noticed someone recently recommending ClamXav.
I have downloaded it but have not yet installed it.
Would this be a good replacement for Virex ?
Or (if Virex still woks) a I better off staying with Virex ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape



Anti Virus Software - Was: Re: slow formatting and printing in Word

2002-02-08 Thread Onno Benschop

At 14:21 8/02/02 +0800, Neil Blake  Associates wrote:

turn off Norton Antivirus. What a difference!


What I do for virus software is to:

1. Keep it up to date.
2. Scan the whole machine.
3. Scan any file-server completely.
4. Set the software to only scan when creating files.
5. If you deal with data arriving on disk/cd then scan those as they arrive.

This means that already scanned files don't get re-scanned, you don't scan 
every time you open a file and your machine spends most of its time working 
for you rather than for virus authors.


If you are on a network with other computers, make sure that they also scan 
when things are created, otherwise you could get a virus that transfers 
from an infected computer to your file server and then to you.

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