Re: [Washington] Washington public Ports and Microsoft attempting to sell retail via White Spaces

[Ryan Spott]

Can you forward us the letters you sent? Perhaps we can send them again from 
the group and see what happens.

ryan


> On Jan 13, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Leo Boyd II  wrote:
> 
> I've reported it to the State Auditors Office, the Attorney General and 
> Inspector Generals office.
> 
> Leo J Boyd II
> North Olympic Peninsula Data Centers
> 216 W. Patison St
> PO Box 83
> Port Hadlock, WA 98339
> 360-385-4686 
> 
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> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Ryan Spott  > wrote:
> I keep asking you what you have done and all you ever say is screaming. Have 
> you written any letters? Do you want to share them with us?
> 
> 
> ryan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Leo Boyd II > > wrote:
>> 
>> I've been screaming for 3 years now about NoaNet selling wholesale to the 
>> Fort Warden PDA, a Municipal Corporation formed by the City of Port Townsend 
>> and nobody is willing to do anything about it and the're the end user of the 
>> service.
>> 
>> Leo J Boyd II
>> North Olympic Peninsula Data Centers
>> 216 W. Patison St
>> PO Box 83
>> Port Hadlock, WA 98339
>> 360-385-4686 
>> 
>> Electronic Privacy Notice: This e-mail is confidential and intended solely 
>> for the use of the addressee(s) named above.  If you are not the intended 
>> recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, 
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>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Ryan Spott > > wrote:
>> Would you prefer that Microsoft work with someone else? If so, who?
>> 
>> Would you or other members of the committee like to meet with Brad or the 
>> team working on whitespace @ Microsoft?
>> 
>> I would love to upset the statement "they are largely unprofitable and 
>> require some form of subsidy from the sponsoring utility”
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ryan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Forbes Mercy >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> This was intercepted from information being passed about public entities 
>>> trying to work with Washington State based Microsoft to circumvent state 
>>> law that does not allow selling retail Internet in addition to wanting to 
>>> use White Spaces to do this.  The Washington State group has annually been 
>>> challenged by many branches of government attempting to sell retail 
>>> Internet and we have continually battled this effort to change state law.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> FYI,
>>> 
>>> Forbes Mercy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “Currently, such arrangements are not authorized under state law.  
>>> Government entities may not offer telecom or broadband services on the 
>>> retail level; they may only offer these services on a wholesale basis with 
>>> ISP’s offering the retail service to consumers.  Although these latter 
>>> arrangements exist in a few areas in the state (including Grant County and 
>>> Tacoma), they are largely unprofitable and require some form of subsidy 
>>> from the sponsoring utility.
>>> 
>>> Legislation to extend new authority to public ports as an economic 
>>> development tool is being promoted by the Washington Public Ports 
>>> Association and by CenturyLink. We believe it’s important to consider this 
>>> opportunity, including the use of new and less expensive broadband 
>>> technologies that we are helping to develop, such as TV White Spaces.
>>> 
>>> Microsoft is beginning the technical work on a project to provide TV White 
>>> Spaces broadband internet access to a few thousand residential customers in 
>>> Lincoln County, Washington, located in the rural, eastern part of the 
>>> state.  Our goal is not to enter the connectivity business, but to develop, 
>>> test, and prove out the technologies that can help bring broadband to 
>>> communities that don’t have it today.  We believe that broadband deployment 
>>> is critical for creating additional economic opportunities in rural areas 
>>> and reducing the divisions between the Central Puget Sound and the rest of 
>>> the state.  Hence this too should be an important legislative priority.” <>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 

Re: [Washington] Washington public Ports and Microsoft attempting to sell retail via White Spaces

[Leo Boyd II]

I've reported it to the State Auditors Office, the Attorney General and
Inspector Generals office.

Leo J Boyd II
North Olympic Peninsula Data Centers
216 W. Patison St
PO Box 83
Port Hadlock, WA 98339360-385-4686
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Ryan Spott  wrote:

> I keep asking you what you have done and all you ever say is screaming.
> Have you written any letters? Do you want to share them with us?
>
>
> ryan
>
>
>
> On Jan 13, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Leo Boyd II  wrote:
>
> I've been screaming for 3 years now about NoaNet selling wholesale to the
> Fort Warden PDA, a Municipal Corporation formed by the City of Port
> Townsend and nobody is willing to do anything about it and the're the end
> user of the service.
>
> Leo J Boyd II
> North Olympic Peninsula Data Centers
> 216 W. Patison St
> PO Box 83
> Port Hadlock, WA 98339360-385-4686
> Electronic Privacy Notice: This e-mail is confidential and intended solely 
> for the use of the addressee(s) named above.  If you are not the intended 
> recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, 
> using, copying, distributing, or otherwise disclosing this information in any 
> manner. If you have received this e-mail in error, please promptly notify the 
> sender and immediately delete it. Thank you
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Ryan Spott  wrote:
>
>> Would you prefer that Microsoft work with someone else? If so, who?
>>
>> Would you or other members of the committee like to meet with Brad or the
>> team working on whitespace @ Microsoft?
>>
>> I would love to upset the statement "they are largely unprofitable and
>> require some form of subsidy from the sponsoring utility”
>>
>>
>>
>> ryan
>>
>>
>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Forbes Mercy 
>> wrote:
>>
>> This was intercepted from information being passed about public entities
>> trying to work with Washington State based Microsoft to circumvent state
>> law that does not allow selling retail Internet in addition to wanting to
>> use White Spaces to do this.  The Washington State group has annually been
>> challenged by many branches of government attempting to sell retail
>> Internet and we have continually battled this effort to change state law.
>>
>> FYI,
>>
>> Forbes Mercy
>>
>>
>> “Currently, such arrangements are not authorized under state law.
>> Government entities may not offer telecom or broadband services on the
>> retail level; they may only offer these services on a wholesale basis with
>> ISP’s offering the retail service to consumers.  Although these latter
>> arrangements exist in a few areas in the state (including Grant County and
>> Tacoma), they are largely unprofitable and require some form of subsidy
>> from the sponsoring utility.
>>
>> Legislation to extend new authority to public ports as an economic
>> development tool is being promoted by the Washington Public Ports
>> Association and by CenturyLink. We believe it’s important to consider this
>> opportunity, including the use of new and less expensive broadband
>> technologies that we are helping to develop, such as TV White Spaces.
>>
>> Microsoft is beginning the technical work on a project to provide TV
>> White Spaces broadband internet access to a few thousand residential
>> customers in Lincoln County, Washington, located in the rural, eastern part
>> of the state.  Our goal is not to enter the connectivity business, but to
>> develop, test, and prove out the technologies that can help bring broadband
>> to communities that don’t have it today.  We believe that broadband
>> deployment is critical for creating additional economic opportunities in
>> rural areas and reducing the divisions between the Central Puget Sound and
>> the rest of the state.  Hence this too should be an important legislative
>> priority.”
>>
>>
>>
>> http://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2017/01/12/next-gen
>> eration-washington-perspective-years-state-legislative-
>> agenda/?subscribe=success#sm.0001ygvg1p19nweljxx9rhq8dj1eo
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Re: [Washington] Washington public Ports and Microsoft attempting to sell retail via White Spaces

[Ryan Spott]

I keep asking you what you have done and all you ever say is screaming. Have 
you written any letters? Do you want to share them with us?


ryan


> On Jan 13, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Leo Boyd II  wrote:
> 
> I've been screaming for 3 years now about NoaNet selling wholesale to the 
> Fort Warden PDA, a Municipal Corporation formed by the City of Port Townsend 
> and nobody is willing to do anything about it and the're the end user of the 
> service.
> 
> Leo J Boyd II
> North Olympic Peninsula Data Centers
> 216 W. Patison St
> PO Box 83
> Port Hadlock, WA 98339
> 360-385-4686 
> 
> Electronic Privacy Notice: This e-mail is confidential and intended solely 
> for the use of the addressee(s) named above.  If you are not the intended 
> recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, 
> using, copying, distributing, or otherwise disclosing this information in any 
> manner. If you have received this e-mail in error, please promptly notify the 
> sender and immediately delete it. Thank you
> 
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Ryan Spott  > wrote:
> Would you prefer that Microsoft work with someone else? If so, who?
> 
> Would you or other members of the committee like to meet with Brad or the 
> team working on whitespace @ Microsoft?
> 
> I would love to upset the statement "they are largely unprofitable and 
> require some form of subsidy from the sponsoring utility”
> 
> 
> 
> ryan
> 
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Forbes Mercy > > wrote:
>> 
>> This was intercepted from information being passed about public entities 
>> trying to work with Washington State based Microsoft to circumvent state law 
>> that does not allow selling retail Internet in addition to wanting to use 
>> White Spaces to do this.  The Washington State group has annually been 
>> challenged by many branches of government attempting to sell retail Internet 
>> and we have continually battled this effort to change state law.
>> 
>> 
>> FYI,
>> 
>> Forbes Mercy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “Currently, such arrangements are not authorized under state law.  
>> Government entities may not offer telecom or broadband services on the 
>> retail level; they may only offer these services on a wholesale basis with 
>> ISP’s offering the retail service to consumers.  Although these latter 
>> arrangements exist in a few areas in the state (including Grant County and 
>> Tacoma), they are largely unprofitable and require some form of subsidy from 
>> the sponsoring utility.
>> 
>> Legislation to extend new authority to public ports as an economic 
>> development tool is being promoted by the Washington Public Ports 
>> Association and by CenturyLink. We believe it’s important to consider this 
>> opportunity, including the use of new and less expensive broadband 
>> technologies that we are helping to develop, such as TV White Spaces.
>> 
>> Microsoft is beginning the technical work on a project to provide TV White 
>> Spaces broadband internet access to a few thousand residential customers in 
>> Lincoln County, Washington, located in the rural, eastern part of the state. 
>>  Our goal is not to enter the connectivity business, but to develop, test, 
>> and prove out the technologies that can help bring broadband to communities 
>> that don’t have it today.  We believe that broadband deployment is critical 
>> for creating additional economic opportunities in rural areas and reducing 
>> the divisions between the Central Puget Sound and the rest of the state.  
>> Hence this too should be an important legislative priority.” <>
>>  
>> 
>> http://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2017/01/12/next-generation-washington-perspective-years-state-legislative-agenda/?subscribe=success#sm.0001ygvg1p19nweljxx9rhq8dj1eo
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