[wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
What about giving access to more people to the repository so it's possible to make changes there without waiting for months? And what about not trying to support everything and everyone by not wanting to make any core changes to the code? That's what i don't understand. Rails and RSpec guys are deprecating and deleting and changing their API-s or core features. Even Ruby changes. Why not Watir? It's possible to point out in the changelog or releasenotes that hey people, this is the way how Watir will work from now and if you have built something upon it, well then you'd have to make some changes here and there. If these changes make code better, make API better, add more and better functionality then why not? There are a lot of things which could be deleted/changed or improved... At least this is my opinion which has been formed during the time i've tried to make things better with Watir... Jarmo On Aug 11, 10:51 pm, Charley Baker charley.ba...@gmail.com wrote: I need to get a decent windows machine which I haven't had for a while. I'm basically limited to mac only at this point with a horribly limping WinXP image. I'm trying to get something doable in the long term, but aside from being otherwise occupied, this is causing a slowdown in how much I can test and make improvements. If anyone has suggestions, I'd love to hear them. :) Cheers, Charley Baker Lead Developer, Watir,http://watir.com On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Ethan notet...@gmail.com wrote: Did you test no_wait stuff? No, I do not use no_wait stuff. Željko -- Before posting, please readhttp://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@goog legroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
Those are good points, we should move this conversation into Watir-dev. I'd love to see more general people on IRC, that goes doubly for anyone who's working on Watir code. I find it much easier to discuss things there at times, this being one. :) Cheers, Charley Baker Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Jarmo Pertman jarm...@gmail.com wrote: What about giving access to more people to the repository so it's possible to make changes there without waiting for months? And what about not trying to support everything and everyone by not wanting to make any core changes to the code? That's what i don't understand. Rails and RSpec guys are deprecating and deleting and changing their API-s or core features. Even Ruby changes. Why not Watir? It's possible to point out in the changelog or releasenotes that hey people, this is the way how Watir will work from now and if you have built something upon it, well then you'd have to make some changes here and there. If these changes make code better, make API better, add more and better functionality then why not? There are a lot of things which could be deleted/changed or improved... At least this is my opinion which has been formed during the time i've tried to make things better with Watir... Jarmo On Aug 11, 10:51 pm, Charley Baker charley.ba...@gmail.com wrote: I need to get a decent windows machine which I haven't had for a while. I'm basically limited to mac only at this point with a horribly limping WinXP image. I'm trying to get something doable in the long term, but aside from being otherwise occupied, this is causing a slowdown in how much I can test and make improvements. If anyone has suggestions, I'd love to hear them. :) Cheers, Charley Baker Lead Developer, Watir,http://watir.com On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Ethan notet...@gmail.com wrote: Did you test no_wait stuff? No, I do not use no_wait stuff. Željko -- Before posting, please readhttp://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com watir-general%2bunsubscr...@goog legroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
I need to get a decent windows machine which I haven't had for a while. I'm basically limited to mac only at this point with a horribly limping WinXP image. I'm trying to get something doable in the long term, but aside from being otherwise occupied, this is causing a slowdown in how much I can test and make improvements. If anyone has suggestions, I'd love to hear them. :) Cheers, Charley Baker Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Ethan notet...@gmail.com wrote: Did you test no_wait stuff? No, I do not use no_wait stuff. Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
[wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
does watir support 1.8.6 mingw version or only old mswin32 ? -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
I haven't tested it, but I don't see any reason it shouldn't work. Will try to test it this week. If anyone has tried with the new Ruby installer, let us know what you've seen. Charley Baker Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:17 AM, al3kc aleks.kiev...@gmail.com wrote: does watir support 1.8.6 mingw version or only old mswin32 ? -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Charley Baker charley.ba...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't tested it, but I don't see any reason it shouldn't work. Will try to test it this week. If anyone has tried with the new Ruby installer, let us know what you've seen. I use new installer in one virtual machine, and watir works just fine. Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
My understanding was that the issue with quoting system arguments (which is a ruby bug on everything since 1.8.6p111) came up with the mingw32 releases for launching things in a new ruby process, which watir does for click_no_wait and other no_wait stuff. Did you test no_wait stuff? On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:08, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.chwrote: On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Charley Baker charley.ba...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't tested it, but I don't see any reason it shouldn't work. Will try to test it this week. If anyone has tried with the new Ruby installer, let us know what you've seen. I use new installer in one virtual machine, and watir works just fine. Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
That's a good point, the modal dialog stuff also likely won't work. Jarmo's pull request for click_no_wait might help in that scenario. If anyone wants to run a quick test for either of those issues, that would be helpful. Charley Baker Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Ethan notet...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding was that the issue with quoting system arguments (which is a ruby bug on everything since 1.8.6p111) came up with the mingw32 releases for launching things in a new ruby process, which watir does for click_no_wait and other no_wait stuff. Did you test no_wait stuff? On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:08, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Charley Baker charley.ba...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't tested it, but I don't see any reason it shouldn't work. Will try to test it this week. If anyone has tried with the new Ruby installer, let us know what you've seen. I use new installer in one virtual machine, and watir works just fine. Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Ethan notet...@gmail.com wrote: Did you test no_wait stuff? No, I do not use no_wait stuff. Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
[wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
As i understood from the previous discussions then Ethan was unable to provide the changes made in Vapir as a small chunks so they could be merged into Watir's main branch in small steps and have some overview of the changes made. Ethan, can you shed some light on this one? Jarmo On Aug 6, 2:05 pm, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Alister Scott alister.sc...@gmail.com wrote: Can we pick up the great work Ethan has done on making vapir work in later versions of ruby and apply this to Watir? You should send this to wtr-development, I think a lot of developers are not monitoring this group. As far as I remember there was a discussion about merging Ethan's work, but he made big architectural changes to the code so it could not be made easily (so Etan made Vapir). I do not contribute to code, so my knowledge is limited there. Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
That's the basic idea. There are a lot of changes, some in api between the implementations. Obviously there are several fixes that we'd like to take in, but the core contributors been busy lately with daily work. :) Speaking for myself, this past week has been the first entire week I've been home in the past couple of months. I'm hoping to have some more time and a bit of balance coming up soon. I believe there's enough in the current trunk to justify a release soon, likely including some additional fixes after we hash through the current state of bugs and prioritize - for instance, Jarmo has some pull requests that I still need to look at as well. I'll see if I can hook up with the other core contributors soon and have a more official idea of where we stand. In the meantime, don't hesitate to vote up issues in Jira, ask questions, and make suggestions. I'm hoping to be on IRC more as well, so feel free to ping me there. Cheers, Charley Baker Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Jarmo Pertman jarm...@gmail.com wrote: As i understood from the previous discussions then Ethan was unable to provide the changes made in Vapir as a small chunks so they could be merged into Watir's main branch in small steps and have some overview of the changes made. Ethan, can you shed some light on this one? Jarmo On Aug 6, 2:05 pm, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Alister Scott alister.sc...@gmail.com wrote: Can we pick up the great work Ethan has done on making vapir work in later versions of ruby and apply this to Watir? You should send this to wtr-development, I think a lot of developers are not monitoring this group. As far as I remember there was a discussion about merging Ethan's work, but he made big architectural changes to the code so it could not be made easily (so Etan made Vapir). I do not contribute to code, so my knowledge is limited there. Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
[wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
Can we pick up the great work Ethan has done on making vapir work in later versions of ruby and apply this to Watir? On Jul 13, 5:22 am, Ethan notet...@gmail.com wrote: Watir has been locked to a very old version of ruby for a long time. Vapirhttp://vapir.org/, an updated fork of watir, runs on any recent version of ruby. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 15:18, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: On Monday, July 12, 2010, Nathan Lane nathamberl...@gmail.com wrote: from (irb):9 from C:/Ruby191/bin/irb:12:in `main' The last time I have tried, watir did not work with ruby 1.9. Try 1.8. Željko -- Before posting, please readhttp://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Alister Scott alister.sc...@gmail.com wrote: Can we pick up the great work Ethan has done on making vapir work in later versions of ruby and apply this to Watir? You should send this to wtr-development, I think a lot of developers are not monitoring this group. As far as I remember there was a discussion about merging Ethan's work, but he made big architectural changes to the code so it could not be made easily (so Etan made Vapir). I do not contribute to code, so my knowledge is limited there. Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Tiffany Fodor tcfo...@comcast.net wrote: Hey Zeljko - this sounds like a great subject for a podcast. :) Good idea. :) Ethan, would you like to record a podcast on Vapir? Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
[wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
Hey Nathan! Have you checked watir.com? Here's the installation page: http://watir.com/installation/ Hope this helps! -Tiffany On Jul 12, 12:52 pm, Nathan Lane nathamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Any thoughts? The examples on OpnQA seem to be broken, and I haven't kept up. How do I get going again? -- Nathan Lane Blog,http://blog.nathandelane.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
Yes I've done exactly as it says there. Here's an example of my difficulties: irb(main):008:0 b = Watir::Browser.start http://www.google.com; NoMethodError: undefined method `start' for Watir::IE:Class from C:/Ruby191/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/commonwatir-1.6.5/lib/watir/browser.rb:71:in `start' from (irb):8 from C:/Ruby191/bin/irb:12:in `main' and irb(main):009:0 b = Watir::Browser.start ArgumentError: wrong number of arguments (0 for 1) from (irb):9 from C:/Ruby191/bin/irb:12:in `main' (Ignore the line numbers. Those are from my irb session). So it looks like I can't win. Any other ideas? Nathan On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Tiffany Fodor tcfo...@comcast.net wrote: Hey Nathan! Have you checked watir.com? Here's the installation page: http://watir.com/installation/ Hope this helps! -Tiffany On Jul 12, 12:52 pm, Nathan Lane nathamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Any thoughts? The examples on OpnQA seem to be broken, and I haven't kept up. How do I get going again? -- Nathan Lane Blog,http://blog.nathandelane.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Nathan Lane Blog, http://blog.nathandelane.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
[wtr-general] Re: Watir on Windows, how is it done anymore?
Hey Zeljko - this sounds like a great subject for a podcast. :) On Jul 12, 2:00 pm, Ethan notet...@gmail.com wrote: It's compatible with IE on windows, and Firefox on basically any operating system that runs both firefox and ruby. More info at:http://wiki.github.com/vapir/vapir/versions On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 15:27, Nathan Lane nathamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Ethan. Is Vapir compatible with as many browsers as Watir on as many OSs? On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Ethan notet...@gmail.com wrote: Watir has been locked to a very old version of ruby for a long time. Vapir http://vapir.org/, an updated fork of watir, runs on any recent version of ruby. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 15:18, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: On Monday, July 12, 2010, Nathan Lane nathamberl...@gmail.com wrote: from (irb):9 from C:/Ruby191/bin/irb:12:in `main' The last time I have tried, watir did not work with ruby 1.9. Try 1.8. Željko -- Before posting, please readhttp://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please readhttp://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Nathan Lane Blog,http://blog.nathandelane.com -- Before posting, please readhttp://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
