[wtr-general] Re: WatirRecorder being forked and resurrected.
Hey Charley, Thanks for the heads up. I will monitor this thread closely and try to move the conversation over to a new group. I talked to Scott and he gave me his blessing, and since I got it out of the OpenQA SVN I figured it's gotta be under some OSI Compliant license. The Ruby version of the recorder (from hence forth called Scrapper) is under BSD so I placed the source code under that as well. Again, Thanks for the help. This is the first time I am leading a forked project, so I apologize for placing this here. --Enrique On Dec 2, 4:16 pm, Charley Baker charley.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Enrique, Good work. We generally have an anti-recorder philosophy for Watir, and for any issues/user support you might want to resurrect WatirRecorder lists or set up a new one. I'm assuming you've talked to Scott about this as well? I don't know what the original license was. People will have questions about it, and I'd recommend you monitor this group and gently redirect to the group specific to the recorder. There's more historical information in the group about why we choose not to support recorders, which I'd recommend taking a look at. Also you may want to blog a bit about your intentions and the inherent dangers in recorders. Without going into too much detail, most of which you'll find through a quick search, I'm more inclined to rename it and consider it a potential scraper, not recorder. hth, Charley Baker Lead Developer, Watir,http://watir.comOn Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:53 AM, watirboy enrique.j.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Guys, I dont know how else to tell people about this, and I hate promoting it, but I have recently resurrected the WatirRecorder that Hanselman did back in the day. It is updated to use more modern WATIR standards and calls a config.xml file for template changes. http://code.google.com/p/watirrecordersharp/ I would love the community to play, test, break, and contribute if possible. This is a first release, and I am planning on changing the UI from utilizing SandBar and SandDock to WPF. Again, any help will be tremendous. It's a great tool and I would hate to see it die... --watirboy -- Before posting, please readhttp://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: WatirRecorder being forked and resurrected.
No worries. I'm curious to see how it goes. Like I say, there's potential for a scraper, recorders can lead into a large abyss between newbie and intermediate scripting, as well as countless other problems, notably the easy silver bullet for automation. It's a tricky path to navigate, but as I mentioned I will be following the progress. :) Cheers, Charley Baker Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:02 PM, watirboy enrique.j.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Charley, Thanks for the heads up. I will monitor this thread closely and try to move the conversation over to a new group. I talked to Scott and he gave me his blessing, and since I got it out of the OpenQA SVN I figured it's gotta be under some OSI Compliant license. The Ruby version of the recorder (from hence forth called Scrapper) is under BSD so I placed the source code under that as well. Again, Thanks for the help. This is the first time I am leading a forked project, so I apologize for placing this here. --Enrique On Dec 2, 4:16 pm, Charley Baker charley.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Enrique, Good work. We generally have an anti-recorder philosophy for Watir, and for any issues/user support you might want to resurrect WatirRecorder lists or set up a new one. I'm assuming you've talked to Scott about this as well? I don't know what the original license was. People will have questions about it, and I'd recommend you monitor this group and gently redirect to the group specific to the recorder. There's more historical information in the group about why we choose not to support recorders, which I'd recommend taking a look at. Also you may want to blog a bit about your intentions and the inherent dangers in recorders. Without going into too much detail, most of which you'll find through a quick search, I'm more inclined to rename it and consider it a potential scraper, not recorder. hth, Charley Baker Lead Developer, Watir,http://watir.comOn Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:53 AM, watirboy enrique.j.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Guys, I dont know how else to tell people about this, and I hate promoting it, but I have recently resurrected the WatirRecorder that Hanselman did back in the day. It is updated to use more modern WATIR standards and calls a config.xml file for template changes. http://code.google.com/p/watirrecordersharp/ I would love the community to play, test, break, and contribute if possible. This is a first release, and I am planning on changing the UI from utilizing SandBar and SandDock to WPF. Again, any help will be tremendous. It's a great tool and I would hate to see it die... --watirboy -- Before posting, please readhttp://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
[wtr-general] Re: WatirRecorder being forked and resurrected.
That's what I use recorders for - to scrape and to learn. They don't always scrape what I want (capture ID when I want name, text when I want ID, etc.). Sounds like a nice feature to be able to specify priority of properties. Good luck Enrique. Let me know if you would like some ideas or for a beta tester. Dave On Dec 3, 12:04 pm, Charley Baker charley.ba...@gmail.com wrote: No worries. I'm curious to see how it goes. Like I say, there's potential for a scraper, recorders can lead into a large abyss between newbie and intermediate scripting, as well as countless other problems, notably the easy silver bullet for automation. It's a tricky path to navigate, but as I mentioned I will be following the progress. :) Cheers, Charley Baker Lead Developer, Watir,http://watir.com On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:02 PM, watirboy enrique.j.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Charley, Thanks for the heads up. I will monitor this thread closely and try to move the conversation over to a new group. I talked to Scott and he gave me his blessing, and since I got it out of the OpenQA SVN I figured it's gotta be under some OSI Compliant license. The Ruby version of the recorder (from hence forth called Scrapper) is under BSD so I placed the source code under that as well. Again, Thanks for the help. This is the first time I am leading a forked project, so I apologize for placing this here. --Enrique On Dec 2, 4:16 pm, Charley Baker charley.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Enrique, Good work. We generally have an anti-recorder philosophy for Watir, and for any issues/user support you might want to resurrect WatirRecorder lists or set up a new one. I'm assuming you've talked to Scott about this as well? I don't know what the original license was. People will have questions about it, and I'd recommend you monitor this group and gently redirect to the group specific to the recorder. There's more historical information in the group about why we choose not to support recorders, which I'd recommend taking a look at. Also you may want to blog a bit about your intentions and the inherent dangers in recorders. Without going into too much detail, most of which you'll find through a quick search, I'm more inclined to rename it and consider it a potential scraper, not recorder. hth, Charley Baker Lead Developer, Watir,http://watir.comOnThu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:53 AM, watirboy enrique.j.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Guys, I dont know how else to tell people about this, and I hate promoting it, but I have recently resurrected the WatirRecorder that Hanselman did back in the day. It is updated to use more modern WATIR standards and calls a config.xml file for template changes. http://code.google.com/p/watirrecordersharp/ I would love the community to play, test, break, and contribute if possible. This is a first release, and I am planning on changing the UI from utilizing SandBar and SandDock to WPF. Again, any help will be tremendous. It's a great tool and I would hate to see it die... --watirboy -- Before posting, please readhttp://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please readhttp://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
