Yeah, that's what I intended to say. I think that Google Wave is better
suited for collaboration on a document than Google Docs.
Actually I already did it - copied the contents of the doc created by Thomas
into a wave and made it public. The wave can be found at:
https://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+EzBfK0s1A/~/conv+root/b+EzBfK0s1B



On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro
<zmy...@gmail.com>wrote:

> By "Google Wave" I think he meant wave.google.com, which, at the moment,
> is
> a bit more stable and reliable than WIAB (no offense to Yuri's setup).
>
> --Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 15:56, Thomas Wrobel <darkfl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You mean at;
> > http://waveinabox.net/
> > I thought of that , but I cant seem to load it.
> >
> > "A turbulence detected!
> >
> > Please save your last changes to somewhere and reload the wave."
> >
> > (starts as soon as a load - Chrome 14.0.835.109 beta-m.  Doesn't work
> > on the Beta of chrome?)
> >
> >
> > On 29 August 2011 19:42, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Great work Thomas, thanks!
> > > Just one suggestion - can we move the discussion to Google Wave?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Thomas Wrobel <darkfl...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I wrote a early draft here;
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=14AbilsPE6NRTwBildiTtSQ4I5T3Is7lbmgHnUt95lMc
> > >>
> > >> Let me know if I am going along the right lines, and I'll correct/add
> > >> to based on feedback.
> > >>
> > >> -Thomas
> > >>
> > >> ~~~~~~
> > >> Reviews of anything, by anyone;
> > >> www.rateoholic.co.uk
> > >> Please try out my new site and give feedback :)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 29 August 2011 17:16, Michael MacFadden <
> michael.macfad...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > done.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Aug 29, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Yuri Z wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> @Michael, Can you please add Thomas to contributors so he would be
> > able
> > >> to assign the JIRA task to himself?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> Yeah :) Thanks
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Thomas Wrobel <
> darkfl...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> Would this do as the task;
> > >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WAVE-290
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 29 August 2011 15:50, Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > Epic? WAIB goes under there.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ________________________________
> > >> >> > From: Thomas Wrobel <darkfl...@gmail.com>
> > >> >> > To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >> >> > Sent: Mon, 29 August, 2011 14:30:16
> > >> >> > Subject: Re: Update Wiki for Apache Wave
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Sure...should I categorise this as just a "TASK" or maybe a
> > >> >> > "STORY".....kinda new to all this so not sure what category this
> > issue
> > >> >> > would fall under. (I dread to think what gets put under "EPIC" !)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > -Thomas
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ~~~~~~
> > >> >> > Reviews of anything, by anyone;
> > >> >> > www.rateoholic.co.uk
> > >> >> > Please try out my new site and give feedback :)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On 29 August 2011 14:44, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> Thanks for picking this up Thomas. You can open an issue in the
> > Wave
> > >> JIRA
> > >> >> >> for this and assign it to yourself.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Thomas Wrobel <
> > darkfl...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>> Seeing as I didn't have much luck picking apart the code, I
> could
> > >> have
> > >> >> >>> a go at this. At least to put more details in then there is
> now.
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Probably need checking over after I'm done for accuracy/missing
> > >> >> >>> information. (and spelling...)
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Shall I sign up for the task?
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> -Thomas Wrobel
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> ~~~~~~
> > >> >> >>> Reviews of anything, by anyone;
> > >> >> >>> www.rateoholic.co.uk
> > >> >> >>> Please try out my new site and give feedback :)
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> On 27 August 2011 14:09, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> > I think a good first step for creation Apache Wave Wiki page
> > would
> > >> be
> > >> >> >>> fill
> > >> >> >>> > in the "History" part of the "About Apache Wave" page at
> > >> >> >>> > http://incubator.apache.org/wave/about.html.
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > Currently the "History" contains the following TODO: "Lets
> > >> summarize
> > >> >> >>> Google
> > >> >> >>> > Wave, Fed One, Wave in a Box, Apache Wave, the protocol, etc.
> > It
> > >> will be
> > >> >> >>> > interesting to keep this information for people to understand
> > how
> > >> the
> > >> >> >>> > project has evolved."
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > Would be great of someone would take on the task to address
> > this
> > >> TODO.
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >> Great! Thanks for taking on this!
> > >> >> >>> >>
> > >> >> >>> >>
> > >> >> >>> >> 2011/8/10 Jérémy Naegel <jeremy....@gmail.com>
> > >> >> >>> >>
> > >> >> >>> >>> Suggestion made here :
> > >> >> >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Apache_Wave#Apache_Wave
> > >> >> >>> >>>
> > >> >> >>> >>> - Jeremy
> > >> >> >>> >>>
> > >> >> >>> >>>
> > >> >> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Jérémy Naegel <
> > >> jeremy....@gmail.com>
> > >> >> >>> >>> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> >>>
> > >> >> >>> >>> > What I'm not familiar with is the Wikipedia revision /
> > >> revocation of
> > >> >> >>> >>> > changes policy...
> > >> >> >>> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> > I'll try to suggest that change inside the discussion
> page
> > and
> > >> see if
> > >> >> >>> it
> > >> >> >>> >>> > triggers any reaction.
> > >> >> >>> >>> > After a few days without reactions or with positive
> > reactions,
> > >> I
> > >> >> >>> guess
> > >> >> >>> >>> it
> > >> >> >>> >>> > would be OK to change back the title.
> > >> >> >>> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> > Then it will be possible to create a new "Apache Wave"
> > entry
> > >> (as it
> > >> >> >>> >>> won't
> > >> >> >>> >>> > be a duplicate).
> > >> >> >>> >>> > I could start it, with the Apache Wave website definition
> > and
> > >> some
> > >> >> >>> >>> general
> > >> >> >>> >>> > infos, but I won't be able to add technical details.
> > >> >> >>> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> > Btw, If someone whose mother tongue is English wants to
> > help,
> > >> that
> > >> >> >>> would
> > >> >> >>> >>> be
> > >> >> >>> >>> > much appreciated!
> > >> >> >>> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> > - Jeremy
> > >> >> >>> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Yuri Z <
> vega...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> I see. So I guess that's what should be done. The entry
> > >> should be
> > >> >> >>> >>> renamed
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> back to Google Wave and a new entry for Apache Wave (and
> > Wave
> > >> in a
> > >> >> >>> Box)
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> should be created.
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> I am not that familiar with the standards for creating
> > Wiki
> > >> entries,
> > >> >> >>> >>> also,
> > >> >> >>> >>> >>  I personally would prefer to spend my spare time on
> > actually
> > >> >> >>> creating
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> patches for WIAB. So I thought that maybe some non
> > technical
> > >> >> >>> community
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> member would like to take on this (actually very
> > important)
> > >> task.
> > >> >> >>> >>> >>
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> 2011/8/10 Jérémy Naegel <jeremy....@gmail.com>
> > >> >> >>> >>> >>
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > About this Apache Wave Wikipedia page : It was, up
> until
> > a
> > >> couple
> > >> >> >>> of
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > months,
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > the Google Wave page and it has simply been renamed
> > Apache
> > >> Wave. I
> > >> >> >>> >>> think
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> it
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > was a bad move, this page should have stayed the
> Google
> > >> Wave page
> > >> >> >>> >>> since
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > Google Wave is still an existing service, and a new
> > Apache
> > >> Wave
> > >> >> >>> page
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> should
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > have been created from scratch since it's a fresh
> start
> > for
> > >> the
> > >> >> >>> >>> product.
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> I
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > think the renaming edit of the page should simply be
> > >> undone, but I
> > >> >> >>> >>> guess
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > this will trigger a debate among the contributors.
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > - Jeremy
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Dan Peterson <
> > >> >> >>> dpeter...@google.com
> > >> >> >>> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > wrote:
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > Agreed -- go for it!
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > From: Upayavira [mailto:u...@odoko.co.uk]
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 04:33 AM
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org <
> > >> >> >>> wave-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > Subject: Re: Update Wiki for Apache Wave
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > I'd say just do it. If anyone wants to help, they
> will
> > >> have an
> > >> >> >>> >>> 'edit'
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > button too.
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > Upayavira
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:25 +0300, "Yuri Z" <
> > >> vega...@gmail.com>
> > >> >> >>> >>> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > I stumbled upon the Wiki page for Apache
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > Wave<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Wave>-
> and
> > my
> > >> >> >>> >>> impression
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> was
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > that it's of very low quality and conveys very
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > little information about Apache Wave and Wave in a
> > Box
> > >> >> >>> project.
> > >> >> >>> >>> Most
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> of
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > the
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > information is related to Google Wave. I  thought
> > that
> > >> it
> > >> >> >>> could
> > >> >> >>> >>> be
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> nice
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > to
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > discuss how we can improve /restructure the Wiki
> > entry
> > >> for
> > >> >> >>> Apache
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> Wave.
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> > >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >>
> > >> >> >>> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >>>
> > >> >> >>> >>
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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