Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-16 Thread Jan Arne Petersen
Hi, On 16.04.2015 00:51, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: actually the other way around... clients know where the vkbd region(s) are so client can shuffle content to be visible. :) In a VKB (rather than overlay-helper, as used for complex composition) scenario, I would expect xdg-shell

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-16 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On 15 April 2015 at 23:51, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 20:29:32 +0100 Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org said: On 15 April 2015 at 02:39, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: not esoteric - an actual request from people making products. The

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:32:31 +0100 Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org said: Hi, On 15 April 2015 at 23:51, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 20:29:32 +0100 Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org said: On 15 April 2015 at 02:39, Carsten Haitzler

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-15 Thread Christian Stroetmann
On the 15th of 2015 21:31, Daniel Stone wrote: On 14 April 2015 at 04:19, Jasper St. Pierrejstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: Boo hoo. you're the only ones who want physically-based rendering raytraced desktops. Enlightenment is absolutely nothing like my desktop environment of choice either, but

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-15 Thread Daniel Stone
On 14 April 2015 at 04:19, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: Boo hoo. you're the only ones who want physically-based rendering raytraced desktops. Enlightenment is absolutely nothing like my desktop environment of choice either, but this is staggeringly unnecessary. If you want

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-15 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, Replies to both here ... On 15 April 2015 at 02:39, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 01:31:56 +0100 Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org said: On 14 April 2015 at 01:02, Bryce Harrington br...@osg.samsung.com wrote: While window rotation was used more as an

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-15 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Yeah, that was extremely uncalled for. Was a difficult day at work, and I was already cranky. I messed up, that was my fault, and I apologize. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org wrote: On 14 April 2015 at 04:19, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: Boo

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-15 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 20:29:32 +0100 Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org said: Hi, Replies to both here ... On 15 April 2015 at 02:39, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 01:31:56 +0100 Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org said: On 14 April 2015 at 01:02, Bryce

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-15 Thread Bill Spitzak
On 04/15/2015 03:51 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: i was thinking a simplified geometry. then again client toolkits can figure that out and present a simplified enum or what not to the app too. but yes - some enumerated type attached to the output would be very nice. smarter

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-14 Thread Giulio Camuffo
2015-04-14 6:33 GMT+03:00 Derek Foreman der...@osg.samsung.com: On 13/04/15 07:31 PM, Daniel Stone wrote: Hi, On 14 April 2015 at 01:02, Bryce Harrington br...@osg.samsung.com wrote: For purposes of discussion, an example might be rotated windows. The set geometry api takes x, y, height,

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 01:31:56 +0100 Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org said: Hi, On 14 April 2015 at 01:02, Bryce Harrington br...@osg.samsung.com wrote: For purposes of discussion, an example might be rotated windows. The set geometry api takes x, y, height, and width. How would you

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:24:26 -0700 Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net said: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Bryce Harrington br...@osg.samsung.com While window rotation was used more as an example of how built-in assumptions in the API could unintentionally constrain D-E's, than as a

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-13 Thread Derek Foreman
On 13/04/15 07:24 PM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Bryce Harrington br...@osg.samsung.com wrote: A couple weeks ago I gave a talk on Wayland to the EFL folks at the Enlightenment Developer Day in San Jose. They've already implemented a Wayland compositor

EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-13 Thread Bryce Harrington
A couple weeks ago I gave a talk on Wayland to the EFL folks at the Enlightenment Developer Day in San Jose. They've already implemented a Wayland compositor backend, so my talk mainly speculated on Wayland's future and on collecting feature requests and feedback from the EFL developers. Below

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-13 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Bryce Harrington br...@osg.samsung.com wrote: A couple weeks ago I gave a talk on Wayland to the EFL folks at the Enlightenment Developer Day in San Jose. They've already implemented a Wayland compositor backend, so my talk mainly speculated on Wayland's

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-13 Thread Derek Foreman
On 13/04/15 07:31 PM, Daniel Stone wrote: Hi, On 14 April 2015 at 01:02, Bryce Harrington br...@osg.samsung.com wrote: For purposes of discussion, an example might be rotated windows. The set geometry api takes x, y, height, and width. How would you specify rotation angle? The window

Re: EFL/Wayland and xdg-shell

2015-04-13 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Derek Foreman der...@osg.samsung.com wrote: ... snip ... That all makes sense - set_window_geometry() was a bit of a red herring here. Some EFL developers want the application to have a way to know its rotation so it can, for example, render drop shadows